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  • H hiral_shah

    Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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    Sathesh Sakthivel
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    Did the QA Dept tested it after Completed the Application.

    Regards, Satips.

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    • H hiral_shah

      Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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      Chris Austin
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      Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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        Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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        Sathesh Sakthivel
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        Chris Austin wrote:

        Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

        Good Idea.

        Regards, Satips.

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        • S Sathesh Sakthivel

          hiral_shah wrote:

          I should not touch that application now

          Then how you will solve the problem.

          Regards, Satips.

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          hiral_shah
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          I don't know what's the plan in his mind. But I checked it at local and its working fine

          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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          • S Sathesh Sakthivel

            Did the QA Dept tested it after Completed the Application.

            Regards, Satips.

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            hiral_shah
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            here we don't have different department of QA over here. Just me my boss and HR Manager have tested that

            -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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            • H hiral_shah

              I don't know what's the plan in his mind. But I checked it at local and its working fine

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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              Sathesh Sakthivel
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              Did the testing dept tested the Application before Uploading.

              Regards, Satips.

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              • H hiral_shah

                Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                What you need to do now is work out what the problem actually is

                But he told me that I should not touch that application now. :(

                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                Pete OHanlon
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                So how does he expect you to grow as a developer? Everybody makes mistakes. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who don't do anything at all. The only way to grow is to learn from your mistakes and the mistakes of others. It's called experience. That means that he really needs to give you the chance to find out what's wrong, and see what could have been done differently. The best bosses won't ask you "What have you done wrong?". Instead they'll ask you "What have you learned, and what would you do differently?".

                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                • C Chris Austin

                  Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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                  hiral_shah
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                  But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.

                  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                  • H hiral_shah

                    here we don't have different department of QA over here. Just me my boss and HR Manager have tested that

                    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                    Sathesh Sakthivel
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                    No QA.

                    Regards, Satips.

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                    • H hiral_shah

                      But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.

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                      Sathesh Sakthivel
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                      Dont worry. Take this as a Lesson. Try to correct it in the Forth Coming Application.

                      Regards, Satips.

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                      • H hiral_shah

                        Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

                        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                        Aamir Butt
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                        Just tell me, have u got testers let alone a proper QA department? If your organization hasnt got one, then you people are in serious trouble.

                        "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"

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                        • C Chris Austin

                          Fault is unimportant at this point Hiral. What you really need to be doing is correcting the error wherever it originated. Try to treat this as a lesson so that the next time you can handle this bug before it ever shows up.

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                          hiral_shah
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                          We Tested the application before uploading and also after upload it. It was working fine in both ways but I don't know what is the exact error occuring and why?

                          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                          • H hiral_shah

                            But what if he is not allowing me to even touch that application. I didn't see that error from my eyes. My boss told me that and I can't do the testing because there are some entries in the database having auto increment field so he may come to know that I did something with the application.

                            -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                            Chris Austin
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                            You still have the code right? You can always point the app to a test database somewhere else. It sounds like your boss is being a total ass. It sounds like it may be time to find something better out there.

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                            • A Aamir Butt

                              Just tell me, have u got testers let alone a proper QA department? If your organization hasnt got one, then you people are in serious trouble.

                              "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"

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                              hiral_shah
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                              Well the company I am working in is opened just before few months. It is a developing company such it will have one soon but that will not solve the problem of mine that I am having right now.

                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                              • H hiral_shah

                                Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

                                -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                Dev_Calz
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                                I am sorry blame is not good to place. But it is in the hands of the developer of the product. If your library fails then it is the developers issue to fix it. The issue could come from lots of other issues, but it is still your job to figure out what happens. If you are using sharepoint 2007 I have seen this issue a lot. As a developer I am ??? in the air because i can nor the team figure out why this issue happens. We think our issue has something to do a file locked and we are not handling the execptio, which could cause a execption in the dll to load.

                                Chris Calzaretta

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                                • H hiral_shah

                                  Hi,:( I made an application that is online registration. I checked it at local as well as after upload that, Even my Boss and HR Manager checked that application. The candidate started to make registration through that and almost above 60 candidates did that successfully, and suddenlly there was an error occured of loading library of common function made by me. I did not make any change after uploadation. My boss is telling that it is my mistake, Either I did not make such good application or I made changes after starting of registration.:(( :(( :(( I know that how much hard effort I put to make this application good, I didn't look at the watch. I worked for this in the day as well as late night. Now can I know your views for that, Whose fault it is?

                                  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                  It's your job to find out.


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                                  • H hiral_shah

                                    here we don't have different department of QA over here. Just me my boss and HR Manager have tested that

                                    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                    brianwelsch
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                                    Sounds like your boss and HR were your QA department for this project. In the end, it doesn't matter you've buggy software online. You need to figure out how to fix the bug and your boss needs to address any issues it's caused and consider if there are improvements to be made in the process. Can you check file timestamps to prove you didn't touch the code? Compare vs. source control?

                                    BW


                                    Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
                                    Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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                                    • H hiral_shah

                                      We Tested the application before uploading and also after upload it. It was working fine in both ways but I don't know what is the exact error occuring and why?

                                      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                      Chris Austin
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                                      Thats why we are professionals :) Seriously. Sometimes bugs don't show up until a very special set of circumstances. The approach in the past has been to rely on a Testing department to find these bugs for you. I've never agreed with that approach as it seems just way to reactive to me. If I were you, I'd be trying to recreate the bug in a test environment AND I'd be adding unit and integration test to my code base.

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                                        You still have the code right? You can always point the app to a test database somewhere else. It sounds like your boss is being a total ass. It sounds like it may be time to find something better out there.

                                        My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                                        hiral_shah
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                                        Well I checked the Full application more than 160 times with a different database but I am not getting any error. But he said that the institute got the error from my application.

                                        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiral Shah India

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                                        • A Aamir Butt

                                          Just tell me, have u got testers let alone a proper QA department? If your organization hasnt got one, then you people are in serious trouble.

                                          "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I'm very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that. -- Bill Shankly"

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                                          brianwelsch
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                                          Aamir Butt wrote:

                                          proper QA department

                                          It's not unusal for smaller code shops to not have a real QA department. Not ideal, obviously, but with proper processes it's certainly a workable situation. Consider all the one-man shops out there earning a successful living all by their lonesome.

                                          BW


                                          Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
                                          Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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