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  • M Marc Clifton

    peterchen wrote:

    Additionally, the little applet starts saying "Disk Cleanup does bla bla bla" - so stupid users think "Oh, it's already working!"

    Only by users that don't understand the verb "does", probably from watching Debbie Does Dallas too many times. Marc

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    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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    Pete OHanlon
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    You're obsessing on the adult industry a bit today.:-D

    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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    • M Marc Clifton

      peterchen wrote:

      Additionally, the little applet starts saying "Disk Cleanup does bla bla bla" - so stupid users think "Oh, it's already working!"

      Only by users that don't understand the verb "does", probably from watching Debbie Does Dallas too many times. Marc

      Thyme In The Country
      Interacx

      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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      lost in transition
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      Debbie Does Dallas

      Now hang on, she did other cities too.

      Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
      Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        You're obsessing on the adult industry a bit today.:-D

        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        he is the only person to have written an article on teh Adult Entertainment Industry: http://www.codeproject.com/samples/ibuttoninterface.asp[^]

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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          Debbie Does Dallas

          Now hang on, she did other cities too.

          Programmer: A biological machine designed to convert caffeine into code.
          Developer: A person who develops working systems by writing and using software. [^]

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          NormDroid
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          You're trying to tell us something? :)

          .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            You're obsessing on the adult industry a bit today.:-D

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Marc Clifton
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            Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

            You're obsessing on the adult industry a bit today.

            That's because I'm immersed in rewriting the video kiosk app this week. Marc

            Thyme In The Country
            Interacx

            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

              You're obsessing on the adult industry a bit today.

              That's because I'm immersed in rewriting the video kiosk app this week. Marc

              Thyme In The Country
              Interacx

              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Aah. That explains it. Doing anything cool with it?

              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                he is the only person to have written an article on teh Adult Entertainment Industry: http://www.codeproject.com/samples/ibuttoninterface.asp[^]

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                Marc Clifton
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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                he is the only person to have written an article on teh Adult Entertainment Industry:

                Actually, I've written several articles from general purpose stuff resulting from the apps I've written. The test-driven prototyping learning remoting article is just the most recent. Marc

                Thyme In The Country
                Interacx

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                • P peterchen

                  In explorer, select a Hard disk drive, and click "Properties". On the first tab, select "Disk cleanup". It's a nice little applet, but starting with XP SP1 (I think) it has the new option "Compress Old Files", which makes the entire panel unusable. Why? On a drive that needs cleanup, finding all files that are considered "old", and estimating the time it would need to compress, takes time. Problem: Estimating the size gained for an option you might not even have selected takes minutes. You have no control over this, even if you would like to not compress old files. Additionally, the little applet starts saying "Disk Cleanup does bla bla bla" - so stupid users think "Oh, it's already working!" when it's just preparing to ask the user. Solution: display the options immediately, calculate in background What is your irk of the day?


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                  Chris Losinger
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                  peterchen wrote:

                  What is your irk of the day?

                  open the control panel. the icons start appearing, and you can click on them! but, the icons populate out-of-order. so if you're dumb enough to try to click on one before the they've all loaded, there's a very good chance your double-click is going to end up activating something you didn't want, because a new icon has jumped under your mouse in the half-second between your decision to double-click and your finger's action. solution: ignore double-clicks until the list is full, or don't show the list at all until all icons have been loaded.

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                  • P peterchen

                    In explorer, select a Hard disk drive, and click "Properties". On the first tab, select "Disk cleanup". It's a nice little applet, but starting with XP SP1 (I think) it has the new option "Compress Old Files", which makes the entire panel unusable. Why? On a drive that needs cleanup, finding all files that are considered "old", and estimating the time it would need to compress, takes time. Problem: Estimating the size gained for an option you might not even have selected takes minutes. You have no control over this, even if you would like to not compress old files. Additionally, the little applet starts saying "Disk Cleanup does bla bla bla" - so stupid users think "Oh, it's already working!" when it's just preparing to ask the user. Solution: display the options immediately, calculate in background What is your irk of the day?


                    We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                    My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                    My irk of everyday lately. In Vista. Try to select a bunch of files in the explorer by dragging. - It starts to drag the file instead. Try to drag a file. - It starts rubberbandselection. Try to bring up the contextmenu for a unselected file by RMB clicking. - You get the menu for the view. Try to get the menu for the view by clicking on anywhere on the row of an unselected item. - You get the menu for the item. Try to drop a file in a view with items. - The item gets dropped on some of the items. Try to drop a file on an item in a view. - The item gets copied to the folder. How they done any usabilitytesting on the Vista explorer at all? :mad: The root of the problem is the fullrowselect and some tweaks they made to the listviewcontrol to make things not possible in a normal fullrow view possibly. Only the frigging things works in reverse. Give me an option to turn fullrow select off!

                    /M


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                    • L loket

                      My irk of everyday lately. In Vista. Try to select a bunch of files in the explorer by dragging. - It starts to drag the file instead. Try to drag a file. - It starts rubberbandselection. Try to bring up the contextmenu for a unselected file by RMB clicking. - You get the menu for the view. Try to get the menu for the view by clicking on anywhere on the row of an unselected item. - You get the menu for the item. Try to drop a file in a view with items. - The item gets dropped on some of the items. Try to drop a file on an item in a view. - The item gets copied to the folder. How they done any usabilitytesting on the Vista explorer at all? :mad: The root of the problem is the fullrowselect and some tweaks they made to the listviewcontrol to make things not possible in a normal fullrow view possibly. Only the frigging things works in reverse. Give me an option to turn fullrow select off!

                      /M


                      - Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      loket wrote:

                      Try to bring up the contextmenu for a unselected file by RMB clicking. - You get the menu for the view.

                      oooh. i hate that one. try to change the properties for a bunch of files in a folder and you're guaranteed to get the view's property page at least once.

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                      • P peterchen

                        In explorer, select a Hard disk drive, and click "Properties". On the first tab, select "Disk cleanup". It's a nice little applet, but starting with XP SP1 (I think) it has the new option "Compress Old Files", which makes the entire panel unusable. Why? On a drive that needs cleanup, finding all files that are considered "old", and estimating the time it would need to compress, takes time. Problem: Estimating the size gained for an option you might not even have selected takes minutes. You have no control over this, even if you would like to not compress old files. Additionally, the little applet starts saying "Disk Cleanup does bla bla bla" - so stupid users think "Oh, it's already working!" when it's just preparing to ask the user. Solution: display the options immediately, calculate in background What is your irk of the day?


                        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                        My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        I agree. I found out that you can also run it as a command line version (cleanmgr) to bring the options dialog up and run based on a preset preference. Coincidently, I just ran mine today to do just that and it's been running for a few hours. The setting up phase took an hour and now I'm on the cleanup phase. Almost done. :)


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                        • P peterchen

                          In explorer, select a Hard disk drive, and click "Properties". On the first tab, select "Disk cleanup". It's a nice little applet, but starting with XP SP1 (I think) it has the new option "Compress Old Files", which makes the entire panel unusable. Why? On a drive that needs cleanup, finding all files that are considered "old", and estimating the time it would need to compress, takes time. Problem: Estimating the size gained for an option you might not even have selected takes minutes. You have no control over this, even if you would like to not compress old files. Additionally, the little applet starts saying "Disk Cleanup does bla bla bla" - so stupid users think "Oh, it's already working!" when it's just preparing to ask the user. Solution: display the options immediately, calculate in background What is your irk of the day?


                          We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                          My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          peterchen wrote:

                          What is your irk of the day?

                          Pretty much everything that Lotus Notes does. X| Day in and day out.

                          Cheers, Vikram.


                          "But nowadays, it means nothing. Features are never frozen, development keeps happening, bugs never get fixed, and documentation is something you might find on wikipedia." - Marc Clifton on betas.

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                          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                            I agree. I found out that you can also run it as a command line version (cleanmgr) to bring the options dialog up and run based on a preset preference. Coincidently, I just ran mine today to do just that and it's been running for a few hours. The setting up phase took an hour and now I'm on the cleanup phase. Almost done. :)


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                            Roger Wright
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                            So, what are you going to do with that shiny, new, completely empty hard drive? You do know, I hope, that cleanmgr deletes all files that have not been patched or reinstalled in the past 10 minutes.

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                              My irk of everyday lately. In Vista. Try to select a bunch of files in the explorer by dragging. - It starts to drag the file instead. Try to drag a file. - It starts rubberbandselection. Try to bring up the contextmenu for a unselected file by RMB clicking. - You get the menu for the view. Try to get the menu for the view by clicking on anywhere on the row of an unselected item. - You get the menu for the item. Try to drop a file in a view with items. - The item gets dropped on some of the items. Try to drop a file on an item in a view. - The item gets copied to the folder. How they done any usabilitytesting on the Vista explorer at all? :mad: The root of the problem is the fullrowselect and some tweaks they made to the listviewcontrol to make things not possible in a normal fullrow view possibly. Only the frigging things works in reverse. Give me an option to turn fullrow select off!

                              /M


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                              loket wrote:

                              Try to bring up the contextmenu for a unselected file by RMB clicking. - You get the menu for the view.

                              Are you serious? That's such a newbie bug! They must just let anyone work at MS these days... :wtf:

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                              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                peterchen wrote:

                                What is your irk of the day?

                                Pretty much everything that Lotus Notes does. X| Day in and day out.

                                Cheers, Vikram.


                                "But nowadays, it means nothing. Features are never frozen, development keeps happening, bugs never get fixed, and documentation is something you might find on wikipedia." - Marc Clifton on betas.

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                                Lotus Notes <approximately 7K of obscentity-laden text removed due to kid-sister rule>, and the morons who wrote it should <approximately 4K more of obscentity-laden text removed due to kid-sister rule>!


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                                • R Roger Wright

                                  So, what are you going to do with that shiny, new, completely empty hard drive? You do know, I hope, that cleanmgr deletes all files that have not been patched or reinstalled in the past 10 minutes.

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                                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                  Fill it up with more junk of course. I was down to a few hundred MB and now I have 4 extra GB. Of course I had to delete the offline Office installation files as well. :rolleyes:


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