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  • Z zorro911

    I work for a company that has shitty products and shitty practices who refuse to change from their Access 2.0 applications into winforms and will not spend time developing, or redeveloping code correctly. as i said, its a niche market, the clients are there, the needs are obvious, would you want to work on a access 2.0 application in windows vista? :) come to think of it., it will probably work in vista 32... access 2.0 = 8 bit.. :) i have done projects that were evaluated, developers world = we know what takes 4 weeks, and what takes 4 months to develope non-technical = " is it done yet"...

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    If the company makes money delivering shitty products using shitty practices, they might be pretty smart! And if the customer is happy too, they might be geniuses.

    Wout

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      If the company makes money delivering shitty products using shitty practices, they might be pretty smart! And if the customer is happy too, they might be geniuses.

      Wout

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      hmm, well im their technical lead. lets say they "made" money, im stuck supporting and maintaining their crappyness. customers are no longer happy, maybe i didnt emphasis "niche" enough, we are the ONLY providers of the software, so they are more like... forced to use it, if another company showed up tomorrow with software that had a better GUI, all our 200+ clients would switch to them. the current software sells for $300,000.00 (per installation) with unlimited licenses..... if they wld at least create maintenanace contracts that is potentially 200 x $4000 per ?YEAR., = $800,000.00 but they dont even do that......

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        Hi there, ive run into a problem, i have a couple of projects that i think can make money, these are niche projects, so they have a very specific market. the problem is that it will take more than just me to develop everything, i have 10+ years of programming knowledge and im looking for partners who have "expert" knowledge in VB.NET ASP.NET, MS web services, XML, and possible MS SQL, dont care much abt the sql... i am in US, CALI, OC., these are NO INCOME PROJECTS, means, if it makes money, we split profit otherwise it goes down the drain, i am not sure where i can go look for such programmers who want to colloborate on projects, i dont mind working with someone elses ideas as well.... any clue if there is a website that provides such info??

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        Mark Salsbery
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        zorro911 wrote:

        VB.NET ASP.NET, MS web services, XML, and possible MS SQL

        Man, if it was an Access 2.0 on Vista project I'd be all over it :)

        "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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          hmm, well im their technical lead. lets say they "made" money, im stuck supporting and maintaining their crappyness. customers are no longer happy, maybe i didnt emphasis "niche" enough, we are the ONLY providers of the software, so they are more like... forced to use it, if another company showed up tomorrow with software that had a better GUI, all our 200+ clients would switch to them. the current software sells for $300,000.00 (per installation) with unlimited licenses..... if they wld at least create maintenanace contracts that is potentially 200 x $4000 per ?YEAR., = $800,000.00 but they dont even do that......

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          zorro911 wrote:

          well im their technical lead. ... we are the ONLY providers of the software ... if another company showed up tomorrow with software that had a better GUI, all our 200+ clients would switch

          You might be on to something, but be careful you don't open yourself up to a nasty conflict of interest lawsuit by your current employer. If I were you, I'd seek legal counsel before even thinking of venturing into this kind of thing. /ravi

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            zorro911 wrote:

            well im their technical lead. ... we are the ONLY providers of the software ... if another company showed up tomorrow with software that had a better GUI, all our 200+ clients would switch

            You might be on to something, but be careful you don't open yourself up to a nasty conflict of interest lawsuit by your current employer. If I were you, I'd seek legal counsel before even thinking of venturing into this kind of thing. /ravi

            This is your brain on Celcius Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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            zorro911
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            yes, the legallity does cause an interesting problem, it does however stop. recreating a patented or copyrighted product with improved functionality is legal, as long as the design and development of the system is created from new requirements.i.e. not reverse engineerd. switching production environments only helps the legality of the development. take microsoft for example ;) in other words, the legal development domain of the current product falls under access 2.0, if i respec, design and develop a Win form application, i have a totally seperate and new product. my masters was in software engineering, we spent a whole semester on ethics, patents, copyrights and so on., though it was a waste of time, it did expose laws of the digital age. But yes, a lawyer wouldnt hurt. some employers make you sign a "no conflict of interest" statement, which ensures them that for the next x years you will not develop or take part in development of anything you learn, create at their work place..... ours has no such clause.

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              zorro911 wrote:

              VB.NET ASP.NET, MS web services, XML, and possible MS SQL

              Man, if it was an Access 2.0 on Vista project I'd be all over it :)

              "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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              if access 2.0 was a person id be in jail

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                if access 2.0 was a person id be in jail

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                Mark Salsbery
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                :laugh: Seriously though, if I was involved in any of those technologies I'd be interested. I'm in the exact same location (OC). Sounds like you work for one of the companies I've worked for. I left to do my own thing as well. Best of luck! Mark

                "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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                  :laugh: Seriously though, if I was involved in any of those technologies I'd be interested. I'm in the exact same location (OC). Sounds like you work for one of the companies I've worked for. I left to do my own thing as well. Best of luck! Mark

                  "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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                  which technologies do u play with?

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                  • Z zorro911

                    which technologies do u play with?

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                    Mark Salsbery
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                    C++, a bit of managed C++ mixed in (growing over time, but still working with a large base of unmanaged C++), DirectShow, DirectSound, Windows Media Format, Windows Multimedia, Client/server and peer-to-peer communication, SQL Server. I just know enough SQL to use the server, nothing fancy yet - I intend to hire an expert for future versions of my code since I want to go deeper into the multimedia stuff myself :) If I had an infinite amount of time I'd learn it all myself. Mark

                    "Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder

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                    • Z zorro911

                      Hi there, ive run into a problem, i have a couple of projects that i think can make money, these are niche projects, so they have a very specific market. the problem is that it will take more than just me to develop everything, i have 10+ years of programming knowledge and im looking for partners who have "expert" knowledge in VB.NET ASP.NET, MS web services, XML, and possible MS SQL, dont care much abt the sql... i am in US, CALI, OC., these are NO INCOME PROJECTS, means, if it makes money, we split profit otherwise it goes down the drain, i am not sure where i can go look for such programmers who want to colloborate on projects, i dont mind working with someone elses ideas as well.... any clue if there is a website that provides such info??

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                      zehnderj
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                      I sent you an email saying that I might be interested in working with you, but I have not heard back from you. I'm in OC as well.

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                      • Z zehnderj

                        I sent you an email saying that I might be interested in working with you, but I have not heard back from you. I'm in OC as well.

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                        zorro911
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                        and i replied back to your AOL email address. aol sucks... it probably at my email address.... check your bulk / spam... let me know if you find it. (or not)

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