MDI applications are deprecated?
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You mean like a Mac?
Don't go there... it's a weak comparison. I think the MTSDI is great, especially with multiple monitors. In my opinion microsoft should modify visio to support this model too.
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I was Googling around for a solution to a problem, and I came across this[^] post. In it, the author mentions several times that Microsoft are trying to move people away from MDI applications. Is this true, and if so, what are the proposed replacements for MDI? Are we supposed to move to a tabbed-window scheme, like Studio 2005 uses, or something else entirely? :confused:
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My greatest ire is directed at hte office apps that haven't had that update, and are still pure MDI. Need to look at two visio docs at once, enjoy the window(?) menu to switch between them. Got two monitors, it's still all or nothing just with a single app streched across both monitors and the children demaximized and alos manually sized. :mad:
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dan neely wrote:
Need to look at two visio docs at once, enjoy the window(?) menu to switch between them. Got two monitors, it's still all or nothing just with a single app streched across both monitors and the children demaximized and alos manually sized.
Drag and drop your second Visio (or PowerPoint, which has the same problem) file onto an Internet Explorer window, right-click on a blank space on the IE toolbar, and select "Show Document Tools" (with PowerPoint, you also have to right-click on the presentation, and choose "Edit Presentation"). Problem solved. You owe me a beer.
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I was Googling around for a solution to a problem, and I came across this[^] post. In it, the author mentions several times that Microsoft are trying to move people away from MDI applications. Is this true, and if so, what are the proposed replacements for MDI? Are we supposed to move to a tabbed-window scheme, like Studio 2005 uses, or something else entirely? :confused:
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MDI apps will eventually become obsolete but not because they're replaced by TABs. That's just silly. Tabs although offer a great advantage, they require a completelly different structure and operation flow. MDI apps are hard to design and handle, especially when you've got multiple forms showing the same information. In such cases, syncronization is very hard and that's why i believe that MDI is more of a 'operation design' rather than a 'GUI design' thing. MDI will become obsolete because it's being replaced by multi-instance or SDI (with separate toolbars or other windows) applications but the 'multiple' style will continue to be the essence of many applications.
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dan neely wrote:
Need to look at two visio docs at once, enjoy the window(?) menu to switch between them. Got two monitors, it's still all or nothing just with a single app streched across both monitors and the children demaximized and alos manually sized.
Drag and drop your second Visio (or PowerPoint, which has the same problem) file onto an Internet Explorer window, right-click on a blank space on the IE toolbar, and select "Show Document Tools" (with PowerPoint, you also have to right-click on the presentation, and choose "Edit Presentation"). Problem solved. You owe me a beer.
Mark Wallace wrote:
Problem solved. You owe me a beer.
Have a six pack. :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
-- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?
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MDI is ok if use in the correct scenarios.
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norm .net wrote:
MDI is ok if use in the correct scenarios.
Very true. Opera's MDI that looks like tabs stops all over FF's strict tabbed UI. Want to look at two 'tabs' at once? Just unmaximize them. Want to keep your taskbar uncluttered, all popups load as tabs instead of separate top level items. You also get to use anything in the browser toolbar/menu system on them as well.
-- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?
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I was Googling around for a solution to a problem, and I came across this[^] post. In it, the author mentions several times that Microsoft are trying to move people away from MDI applications. Is this true, and if so, what are the proposed replacements for MDI? Are we supposed to move to a tabbed-window scheme, like Studio 2005 uses, or something else entirely? :confused:
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MTSDI (multi-threaded SDI) - basically the way Office works now. One top-level frame window per document.
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At least as of 2003: Word creates multiple top-level frame windows, but also has an 'X' in the menu bar to allow you to close the document and manage some of Word's own options; clicking the main close button closes the frame and the single document in that frame. Excel is fully MDI but (optionally and by default) creates a taskbar button for each open MDI child window. Clicking the main close button closes the frame and all documents in it (i.e. quits the app). PowerPoint is fully MDI and creates taskbar buttons like Excel, but clicking the frame's Close button only closes the current document; on closing the last document in this way, the frame goes as well. I seem to recall this hadn't changed in the 2007 betas.
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Maybe top-level MDI apps like Word or Excel.
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Word features multiple top-level frames, Excel doesn't (at least not without explicitly opening another Excel process from the Start menu). This confuses people swapping between the apps.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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MTSDI (multi-threaded SDI) - basically the way Office works now. One top-level frame window per document.
--Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Ford, what's this fish doing in my ear?