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  • J Jim Crafton

    I'd like to congratulate Marc Clifton for his brilliant quote on the intelligence (or lack thereof) of most consultants:

    Marc Clifton wrote:

    Most consultants I've encountered are dumber than a one-eared rabbit.

    Made my day!

    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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    Jim Crafton wrote:

    I'd like to congratulate Marc Clifton for his brilliant quote on the intelligence (or lack thereof) of most consultants:

    Marc Clifton wrote: Most consultants I've encountered are dumber than a one-eared rabbit.

    The only drawback is that it's completely wrong. A dumb consultant doesn't even get into the business. :suss:

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      Jim Crafton wrote:

      I'd like to congratulate Marc Clifton for his brilliant quote on the intelligence (or lack thereof) of most consultants:

      Marc Clifton wrote: Most consultants I've encountered are dumber than a one-eared rabbit.

      The only drawback is that it's completely wrong. A dumb consultant doesn't even get into the business. :suss:

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      Virtual Coder wrote:

      A dumb consultant doesn't even get into the business.

      Which business are you in? You don't work for one of the major consultancies do you? I'm thinking of the likes of Crap-Gemini or Illogica here. I've spent more than my fair share of time fixing the ****-ups that a "supposed" hotshot consultant created.

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        Jim Crafton wrote:

        I'd like to congratulate Marc Clifton for his brilliant quote on the intelligence (or lack thereof) of most consultants:

        Marc Clifton wrote: Most consultants I've encountered are dumber than a one-eared rabbit.

        The only drawback is that it's completely wrong. A dumb consultant doesn't even get into the business. :suss:

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        I think that depends on what kind of consultant it is. If it's one guy working on his own, like Marc or Code-frog (apologies to any others that I missed), then I would agree with you. However if it's someone working for one of the larger firms, then, I would definitely not agree with your statement. Many of these people do not know what they are doing.

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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        • J Jim Crafton

          I think that depends on what kind of consultant it is. If it's one guy working on his own, like Marc or Code-frog (apologies to any others that I missed), then I would agree with you. However if it's someone working for one of the larger firms, then, I would definitely not agree with your statement. Many of these people do not know what they are doing.

          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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          I know several people who were out doing IT consultancy work with a company we'll call FET within 6 months of completing their non-computing related degrees. One man consultancies are a different matter. You are only as good as your last job so your jobs have to be spot on. Somehow if big companies work for the government or other huge institutions they get to screw up repeatedly and noone seems to care, in fact when it goes tits up they get paid even more money to sort out the BS that they caused in the first place.

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          • J Jim Crafton

            I'd like to congratulate Marc Clifton for his brilliant quote on the intelligence (or lack thereof) of most consultants:

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Most consultants I've encountered are dumber than a one-eared rabbit.

            Made my day!

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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            On behalf of the One Long Ear Defamation Bunch (OLEDB), in pursuant against individuals that would bring shame and harm against those we represent, our organization would like to register a formal public compliant against a Mr. Marc Clifton. Not all Dumb Bunny Associates (DBAs) are actually "dumb". While it often appears that most DBAs are complete idiots and unable to tunnel their way out of a brown paper sack; the reality is that some DBAs, despite their listening handicap, are capable of leading a normal and productive life in the corporate world; while only moderately screwing things up. And while we fully understand and appreciate that 99.99% of a DBAs requirements consume massive amounts of corporate funding, recent studies have shown that DBAs provide a level of security and comfort to most organizations in which they are employed. It is hate filled remarks such as yours, Mr. Clifton, that have forced groups such as ours and others programs, such as the Mad Critters and Dumb Bunnies Association (MCDBA), into taking active rolls in these communities. We hope that any future remarks and/or outbursts against DBAs will be ones of love, compassion and understanding. As we with OLEDB like to say, DBAs aren't stupid, they just don't listen. Thank you for your time and understanding with our concerns, OLEDB OLEDB is a subsidiary of Asses for Dumb Otters (ADO) -- modified at 11:51 Friday 20th April, 2007


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              On behalf of the One Long Ear Defamation Bunch (OLEDB), in pursuant against individuals that would bring shame and harm against those we represent, our organization would like to register a formal public compliant against a Mr. Marc Clifton. Not all Dumb Bunny Associates (DBAs) are actually "dumb". While it often appears that most DBAs are complete idiots and unable to tunnel their way out of a brown paper sack; the reality is that some DBAs, despite their listening handicap, are capable of leading a normal and productive life in the corporate world; while only moderately screwing things up. And while we fully understand and appreciate that 99.99% of a DBAs requirements consume massive amounts of corporate funding, recent studies have shown that DBAs provide a level of security and comfort to most organizations in which they are employed. It is hate filled remarks such as yours, Mr. Clifton, that have forced groups such as ours and others programs, such as the Mad Critters and Dumb Bunnies Association (MCDBA), into taking active rolls in these communities. We hope that any future remarks and/or outbursts against DBAs will be ones of love, compassion and understanding. As we with OLEDB like to say, DBAs aren't stupid, they just don't listen. Thank you for your time and understanding with our concerns, OLEDB OLEDB is a subsidiary of Asses for Dumb Otters (ADO) -- modified at 11:51 Friday 20th April, 2007


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                On first sight it is funny but why are one-eared rabbits dumberer than 2 eared rabbits? :-) (When I was getting started an elder geek told me that 99% of everyone I'd ever meet in this business would be a know-nothing w*****. He was right.)

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                Because he's not a complete rabbit (yet).


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                • J Jim Crafton

                  I'd like to congratulate Marc Clifton for his brilliant quote on the intelligence (or lack thereof) of most consultants:

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Most consultants I've encountered are dumber than a one-eared rabbit.

                  Made my day!

                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                  If you're not a part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem.

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                    On behalf of the One Long Ear Defamation Bunch (OLEDB), in pursuant against individuals that would bring shame and harm against those we represent, our organization would like to register a formal public compliant against a Mr. Marc Clifton. Not all Dumb Bunny Associates (DBAs) are actually "dumb". While it often appears that most DBAs are complete idiots and unable to tunnel their way out of a brown paper sack; the reality is that some DBAs, despite their listening handicap, are capable of leading a normal and productive life in the corporate world; while only moderately screwing things up. And while we fully understand and appreciate that 99.99% of a DBAs requirements consume massive amounts of corporate funding, recent studies have shown that DBAs provide a level of security and comfort to most organizations in which they are employed. It is hate filled remarks such as yours, Mr. Clifton, that have forced groups such as ours and others programs, such as the Mad Critters and Dumb Bunnies Association (MCDBA), into taking active rolls in these communities. We hope that any future remarks and/or outbursts against DBAs will be ones of love, compassion and understanding. As we with OLEDB like to say, DBAs aren't stupid, they just don't listen. Thank you for your time and understanding with our concerns, OLEDB OLEDB is a subsidiary of Asses for Dumb Otters (ADO) -- modified at 11:51 Friday 20th April, 2007


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                    Marcus J Smith
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                    Douglas Troy wrote:

                    On behalf of the One Long Ear Defamation Bunch (OLEDB), in pursuant against individuals that would bring shame and harm against those we represent, our organization would like to register a formal public compliant against a Mr. Marc Clifton. Not all Dumb Bunny Associates (DBAs) are actually "dumb". While it often appears that most DBAs are complete idiots and unable to tunnel their way out of a brown paper sack; the reality is that some DBAs, despite their listening handicap, are capable of leading a normal and productive life in the corporate world; while only moderately screwing things up. And while we fully understand and appreciate that 99.99% of a DBAs requirements consume massive amounts of corporate funding, recent studies have shown that DBAs provide a level of security and comfort to most organizations in which they are employed. It is hate filled remarks such as yours, Mr. Clifton, that have forced groups such as ours and others programs, such as the Mad Critters and Dumb Bunnies Association (MCDBA), into taking active rolls in these communities. We hope that any future remarks and/or outbursts against DBAs will be ones of love, compassion and understanding. As we with OLEDB like to say, DBAs aren't stupid, they just don't listen. Thank you for your time and understanding with our concerns, OLEDB OLEDB is a subsidiary of Asses for Dumb Otters (ADO)

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                    • M MoustafaS

                      Because he's not a complete rabbit (yet).


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                      LongHC wrote:

                      he's not a complete rabbit (yet).

                      he will grow another ear? That's a cool trick. Can I have his DNA for my pancreas? ;P

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                      • H Hans Dietrich

                        If you're not a part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem.

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        I love despair.com. So much truth there :)

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          On first sight it is funny but why are one-eared rabbits dumberer than 2 eared rabbits? :-) (When I was getting started an elder geek told me that 99% of everyone I'd ever meet in this business would be a know-nothing w*****. He was right.)

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                          digital man wrote:

                          why are one-eared rabbits dumberer than 2 eared rabbits?

                          well... leave it to me to take a perfectly good joke and put an explanation to it. But "dumb" means doesn't speak. Or at least the original definition. Eventually "dumb" became known as lacking intelligence since it was assumed that a person who couldn't speak couldn't do so because their intelligence (or lack thereof) was not capable of speech. We know this is not the case in modern times, still the slang term has been adopted into common speech in many (not all) English variations. Now the rabbit part.... a rabbit doesn't make much noise unless reacting to external stimuli. Rabbits can howl when frightened or injured and it is a horrible sound. They can bark, and that is kind of silly sounding. And well, they make other noises for other stimuli.... so a one-eared rabbit would be more silent than normal because it would only get half the sensory input to react to.... or would quickly be dead because it didn't hear something it should, in which case it would be even more silent still. Thus a very dumb rabbit. :doh: :-D

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            I love despair.com. So much truth there :)

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                            El Corazon
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                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            So much truth there

                            if there was not there would be nothing to despair from. :) However I take comfort in this quote: "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Jim Crafton wrote:

                              So much truth there

                              if there was not there would be nothing to despair from. :) However I take comfort in this quote: "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                              "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."

                              I've seen this before, do you know where's originally from?

                              -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                                Jim Crafton wrote:

                                Made my day!

                                :cool: :-O I couldn't think of a good metaphor so I pulled that one out of the hat. *groan* Marc

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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                so I pulled that one out of the hat.

                                as much as everyone is passing it around and looking at it, I am glad it came from a hat. :laugh:

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                                  Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                  "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."

                                  I've seen this before, do you know where's originally from?

                                  -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                                  dan neely wrote:

                                  I've seen this before, do you know where's originally from?

                                  Babylon 5 TV series: Marcus Cole to Franklin, A Late Delivery from Avalon

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    I've seen this before, do you know where's originally from?

                                    Babylon 5 TV series: Marcus Cole to Franklin, A Late Delivery from Avalon

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    Alright, a B5 quote! I sure did like that show.

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                                      LongHC wrote:

                                      he's not a complete rabbit (yet).

                                      he will grow another ear? That's a cool trick. Can I have his DNA for my pancreas? ;P

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      :laugh:


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                                        Alright, a B5 quote! I sure did like that show.

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                                        Blake Miller wrote:

                                        a B5 quote!

                                        "The universe puts us in places where we can learn. They are never easy places, but they are right. Wherever you are is the right place, at the right time. Pain sometimes comes. It is part of the proccess of constantly being born... Then I will tell you a great secret Captain, perhaps the greatest of all time. The molecules of your body are the same molecules that make up this station, and the nebula outside, that is born in the stars themselves. We are starstuff, we are the universe made manifest, trying to figure itself out. As we have both learned, sometimes the universe requires a change of perspective." - Delenn :-D

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                          On behalf of the One Long Ear Defamation Bunch (OLEDB), in pursuant against individuals that would bring shame and harm against those we represent, our organization would like to register a formal public compliant against a Mr. Marc Clifton. Not all Dumb Bunny Associates (DBAs) are actually "dumb". While it often appears that most DBAs are complete idiots and unable to tunnel their way out of a brown paper sack; the reality is that some DBAs, despite their listening handicap, are capable of leading a normal and productive life in the corporate world; while only moderately screwing things up. And while we fully understand and appreciate that 99.99% of a DBAs requirements consume massive amounts of corporate funding, recent studies have shown that DBAs provide a level of security and comfort to most organizations in which they are employed. It is hate filled remarks such as yours, Mr. Clifton, that have forced groups such as ours and others programs, such as the Mad Critters and Dumb Bunnies Association (MCDBA), into taking active rolls in these communities. We hope that any future remarks and/or outbursts against DBAs will be ones of love, compassion and understanding. As we with OLEDB like to say, DBAs aren't stupid, they just don't listen. Thank you for your time and understanding with our concerns, OLEDB OLEDB is a subsidiary of Asses for Dumb Otters (ADO) -- modified at 11:51 Friday 20th April, 2007


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                                          :laugh: brilliant! i always wondered what all the db access acronymns meant :laugh:

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