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  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

    Christian Graus wrote:

    How many programs, written in Java, are both usable and used in Windows ?

    How many programs, written in Java C#, are both usable and used in Windows ?


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    Christian Graus
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    Parts of Visual Studio. I have over 500 users for the RDC software I wrote in C#, and will soon have a similar number for a radiograph viewing program. The point is that Java UI has always sucked in Windows. Oracle, for example. Their DB is fine, but the (Java) client tools are a disaster.

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

      Christian Graus wrote:

      How many programs, written in Java, are both usable and used in Windows ?

      How many programs, written in Java C#, are both usable and used in Windows ?


      Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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      Lost User
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      Slitherz.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Code2326 wrote:

        Why aren't there JAVA Boards in CP?

        Well, if you think about it, covering the Java language would not be sufficient. As with other languages supported here on CP, you'd also have to "invest" in supporting dialogs on Java tools, platforms, etc. I think the resulting site would be too much of a mishmash users, special interests, and technologies. Not to mention probably needing to support discussions on both pure Java and JavaScript (enough of which happens anyways as part of the ASPxxx forums). (There, now I gave a reasonable explanation instead of the half-a-dozen or so flip answers that came to mind). Marc

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        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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        l a u r e n
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        ummmmm java and javascript are not related at all ;)

        "there is no spoon" {me}

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          ummmmm java and javascript are not related at all ;)

          "there is no spoon" {me}

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          Marc Clifton
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          l a u r e n wrote:

          ummmmm java and javascript are not related at all

          How I wish that were true. :sigh: Marc

          Thyme In The Country
          Interacx

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            l a u r e n wrote:

            ummmmm java and javascript are not related at all

            How I wish that were true. :sigh: Marc

            Thyme In The Country
            Interacx

            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            Christian Graus
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            I thought it was true, why is it not ?

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            • C Christian Graus

              I thought it was true, why is it not ?

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              Marc Clifton
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              I thought it was true, why is it not ?

              Ignore me. I'm just being wierd. Too much documentation and diagramming, coupled with sore muscles from playing soccer and too much chili this weekend. Not to mention blowing about 10,000 platinum on mass aid and resurrection scrolls. Marc

              Thyme In The Country
              Interacx

              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Christian Graus wrote:

                I thought it was true, why is it not ?

                Ignore me. I'm just being wierd. Too much documentation and diagramming, coupled with sore muscles from playing soccer and too much chili this weekend. Not to mention blowing about 10,000 platinum on mass aid and resurrection scrolls. Marc

                Thyme In The Country
                Interacx

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                Christian Graus
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                Fair enough. I thought you may know something I didn't ( which is still likely :P )

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I thought it was true, why is it not ?

                  Ignore me. I'm just being wierd. Too much documentation and diagramming, coupled with sore muscles from playing soccer and too much chili this weekend. Not to mention blowing about 10,000 platinum on mass aid and resurrection scrolls. Marc

                  Thyme In The Country
                  Interacx

                  People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                  There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                  People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                  hire a high level cleric on a permanent basis, might be cheaper ;-)

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                    Fair enough. I thought you may know something I didn't ( which is still likely :P )

                    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I thought you may know something I didn't

                    Unlikely. :) [rambling] Well, I'm going to say goodnight from this side of the world. Weather here has been absolutely gorgeous. 70's (F), clear skies (except for the contrails), flowers are busting up out of the ground everywhere, etc. After that discussion last week on books, I've decided to persue my personal dreams, and that is, to write a book on Application Development With Interacx. Should be interesting. And with gorgeous weather comes the people washing their cars on their lawns, blasting the car stereo, running the vaccuum cleaner, and leaving the keys in the ignition. Bing-bing, bing-bing, bing-bing. :sigh: [/rambling] Marc

                    Thyme In The Country
                    Interacx

                    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      hire a high level cleric on a permanent basis, might be cheaper ;-)

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Super Lloyd wrote:

                      hire a high level cleric on a permanent basis, might be cheaper

                      I AM a high level cleric! It's friggin expensive nowadays. Stupid fighters seem to be getting too cocky. Ooh, the cleric can rez me. Ooh, the cleric has wands. And besides, I want to use some of that mana for offensive casting. But no. Fighters just think I'm a walking shrine. :rolleyes: Ratleg aka Marc

                      Thyme In The Country
                      Interacx

                      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                        Super Lloyd wrote:

                        hire a high level cleric on a permanent basis, might be cheaper

                        I AM a high level cleric! It's friggin expensive nowadays. Stupid fighters seem to be getting too cocky. Ooh, the cleric can rez me. Ooh, the cleric has wands. And besides, I want to use some of that mana for offensive casting. But no. Fighters just think I'm a walking shrine. :rolleyes: Ratleg aka Marc

                        Thyme In The Country
                        Interacx

                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                        Super Lloyd
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                        Don't get me started about those fighters! Sigh... :laugh: ;P

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                        • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          How many programs, written in Java, are both usable and used in Windows ?

                          How many programs, written in Java C#, are both usable and used in Windows ?


                          Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                          Member 96
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                          Actually at this point thousands, we make a *very* good living off just two that are used world wide in over 40 countries by thousands of users, but don't let reality stand in the way of your absurd opinion.


                          "110%" - it's the new 70%

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                            Yeah, and really... it's better iced than it is hot.:-D


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                            code-frog wrote:

                            it's better iced than it is hot

                            Iced isn't too bad on a hot day.

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                              Yeah, and really... it's better iced than it is hot.:-D


                              My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered process, husband to a murdered thread. And I will have my affinity, in this life or the next. - Gladiator. (Okay, not quite Gladiator but close.) I work to live. I do not live to work. My clients do not seem capable of grasping this fact. Ancient of days! august Athena! where, Where are thy men of might? - Lord Byron

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                              I disagree! Now, if we're talking tea...

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                              • C Code2326

                                I've been browsing and I saw all these languages and thought that maybe Java plays a big role? Why aren't there JAVA Boards in CP?

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                                S Douglas
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                                Code2326 wrote:

                                Why aren't there JAVA Boards in CP?

                                There is a JAVA board, it's an easter egg :~ Code Project - Java Board[^]


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                                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  How many programs, written in Java, are both usable and used in Windows ?

                                  How many programs, written in Java C#, are both usable and used in Windows ?


                                  Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                  Hmm...I'm looking at my toolbar: MS Powershell, XamlPad, Yahoo Messenger (new one is .NET 3 + WPF), Lutz Reflector, RSS Reader, Visual Studio, IE7, with an XBAP opened in a tab. What CG was talking about was the hideous, non-native UI that Java apps were known for. That doesn't apply to .NET since it's using the native toolkit under the hood.

                                  Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: The Virginia Tech Shootings, Guns, and Politics The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                    I disagree! Now, if we're talking tea...

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                                    It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                                    --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    tea...

                                    That has been one of my alternatives to coffee when I've been too lazy to make a new pot of coffee :-D

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                                    • C Code2326

                                      I've been browsing and I saw all these languages and thought that maybe Java plays a big role? Why aren't there JAVA Boards in CP?

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                                      Muammar
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                                      My advice dude, quit java before it's too late and have C# as an alternative:^) Simply, just go with the flow:->


                                      Smile: A curve that can set a lot of things straight! (\ /) (O.o) (><)

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                                        That's one. Got anymore? Seriously, outside of dev tools, I can't really think of much of any general purpose end user products that people actually use.

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                                        WillemM
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                                        Azureus is a java based torrent client. It's usable on Windows and used quite a lot. But I can't really think of anything else.

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          Parts of Visual Studio. I have over 500 users for the RDC software I wrote in C#, and will soon have a similar number for a radiograph viewing program. The point is that Java UI has always sucked in Windows. Oracle, for example. Their DB is fine, but the (Java) client tools are a disaster.

                                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                          java_moca
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                                          You havent seen what you can do with http://www.thinwire.com/ Java rocks

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