Death of a rodent
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I have wired CVS (a drugstore here in the US) $5 mouse which I absolutely love. And what I discovered I love about it is that it's so LIGHT. The wireless mice just can't compete--the weight of the batteries themselves are more than what that CVS mouse weighs. I've found that mouse weight is really an important feature in reducing wrist strain. Marc
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People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
...it's so LIGHT. The wireless mice just can't compete...
This is the exact reason I only use wired mice too. Also, the cursor on every wireless mouse I've ever used seems to "float" in an odd manner. It just doesn't seem as responsive or accurate somehow. My wife swears by her Logitech wireless mouse, but I find it incredibly hard to use. I just can't seem to get it to land on something accurately without every muscle in my forearm going into spasm after 30 seconds. Maybe I'm just old school, I dunno ;)
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My mouse just died (very old and dirty logitech crap), and I am tabbing my way through the world :( Now what do I do? All corded mouse salesmen are already closed. I have a phunky mouse from a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, but it doesn't want to work withoput the keyboard. Which I drowned a few month ago. Oh, yes good news. New Keyboard![^] (with 'click' feel) Man, that thing feels good. Just the classic layout (with windows keys), no funny extra keys, no "optimized for your pleasure" key layout, just the real thing. I just want to go on writing because it feels sooooo good. Yummy. Lät mö trü äll thö keüs! Wowsy!!
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My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistpeterchen wrote:
Oh, yes good news. New Keyboard![^] (with 'click' feel)
I can remember the first SUN workstations I worked on many, many years ago had tactile feedback from the keypad. :-D I really liked it but do not remember it on later SPARK workstations when I worked on them some 10 years later. That is also in the distant past from when I was using SPARK workstations for IBM mainframe development work. X| I'm jealous ... I may have to spring for a new keyboard. Very nice feature in my opinion. :-D
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Well, no, but the mouse moves a lot more freely when it's not encumbered. It's obvious every time I move it, that it has no cord. It's not that it bothered me, but not having it, is better.
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's obvious every time I move it, that it has no cord.
Fair 'nuff. :) After i posted the question, i went and played around with the little Dell mouse attached to the computer next to me... sure enough, I can feel the cord after a while, as it'll get caught momentarily on the other cords, piles of paper, old mousepads, CDs, pens, boxes, a stress ball advertising company that no longer exists, and the rest of the junk that litters my desk. Of course, i could probably blame the junk as much as the cord, and this is a crappy Dell mouse with a thick cord and a pile of old printouts in lieu of a mousepad. But either way, i'm just glad i don't use it often. ...now if i could just figure out where the huge pads of lint in my trackball are coming from... :suss:
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I have wired CVS (a drugstore here in the US) $5 mouse which I absolutely love. And what I discovered I love about it is that it's so LIGHT. The wireless mice just can't compete--the weight of the batteries themselves are more than what that CVS mouse weighs. I've found that mouse weight is really an important feature in reducing wrist strain. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithDitto - I like the lightest ones also. :-D
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Christian Graus wrote:
It's obvious every time I move it, that it has no cord.
Fair 'nuff. :) After i posted the question, i went and played around with the little Dell mouse attached to the computer next to me... sure enough, I can feel the cord after a while, as it'll get caught momentarily on the other cords, piles of paper, old mousepads, CDs, pens, boxes, a stress ball advertising company that no longer exists, and the rest of the junk that litters my desk. Of course, i could probably blame the junk as much as the cord, and this is a crappy Dell mouse with a thick cord and a pile of old printouts in lieu of a mousepad. But either way, i'm just glad i don't use it often. ...now if i could just figure out where the huge pads of lint in my trackball are coming from... :suss:
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Shog9 wrote:
...now if i could just figure out where the huge pads of lint in my trackball are coming from...
That's an unexplained mystery in the nature of "does my dryer eat my left socks" and "do clothes hangers reproduce when the closet door closes".
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Well, no, but the mouse moves a lot more freely when it's not encumbered. It's obvious every time I move it, that it has no cord. It's not that it bothered me, but not having it, is better.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
I actually noticed strain on my mouse hand at one work station. I battled to stop the mouse cord hanging over the back of the desk, and as negligible as it may seem, it caused strain on my wrist.
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My mouse just died (very old and dirty logitech crap), and I am tabbing my way through the world :( Now what do I do? All corded mouse salesmen are already closed. I have a phunky mouse from a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, but it doesn't want to work withoput the keyboard. Which I drowned a few month ago. Oh, yes good news. New Keyboard![^] (with 'click' feel) Man, that thing feels good. Just the classic layout (with windows keys), no funny extra keys, no "optimized for your pleasure" key layout, just the real thing. I just want to go on writing because it feels sooooo good. Yummy. Lät mö trü äll thö keüs! Wowsy!!
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistpeterchen wrote:
Just the classic layout (with windows keys), no funny extra keys, no "optimized for your pleasure" key layout, just the real thing.
Personally I hate the Windows keys. :mad: Never deliberately pushed one in my life. I want a keyboard with no Windows keys and a sensible-length spacebar. And no click. Definitely no click. One of our secretaries used to use a keyboard which clicked as the keys went down *and* up, I suspect to make it sound like she was typing twice as fast as she actually was.
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Well, no, but the mouse moves a lot more freely when it's not encumbered. It's obvious every time I move it, that it has no cord. It's not that it bothered me, but not having it, is better.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Brian Olej wrote:
For some reason, even after the first sentence I still thought you were talking about an actual mouse.
Nope that would be me.... ;P So goodbye silly rodent, rest in peace This is my ode to your presence, may it please decrease! Now if only a vulture would knock to come in… I wouldn’t have to think about you ever again!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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You don't have a supply of spare mice and keyboards ? Call yourself a geek.... Who would use a corded mouse ? I admit, I question the usefulness of my cordless keyboard, but the mouse rules.
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We have two drawers full of mice in our lab, including some of the original, first edition two-button Microsoft mice.
Christian Graus wrote:
Who would use a corded mouse ?
When you've got three PC's on your desk connected by a switch, and the switch says "bork! bork! bork!" when you connect USB mice to it.
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Jeffry's being poetic,
That is because I am a poet.... not a great one... but never the less, it is part of who I am. But I just stole a section from the weekend poem in my blog here. Here's one from my site: Poetry, A loving heart, joyfully right To a soul screaming in the night, Love's great alliance Or anger's defiance. Poetry, An eloquently soothing rain To the voice of ultimate pain, A whisper from the past Or the shout of the outcast. Poetry, The cheers of salvation And the howls of damnation, Poetry, Expression of the heart And the soul's gentle art.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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peterchen wrote:
Just the classic layout (with windows keys), no funny extra keys, no "optimized for your pleasure" key layout, just the real thing.
Personally I hate the Windows keys. :mad: Never deliberately pushed one in my life. I want a keyboard with no Windows keys and a sensible-length spacebar. And no click. Definitely no click. One of our secretaries used to use a keyboard which clicked as the keys went down *and* up, I suspect to make it sound like she was typing twice as fast as she actually was.
I got used to them. I Frequently use [WIN]-[D], [WIN]-[E] and [WIN]-[R], and the cotext menu key is very very handy if you, err... like... mayb... i never heard of such as case but... you don't have a mouse.
Steve_Harris wrote:
One of our secretaries used to use a keyboard which clicked as the keys went down *and* up
One of the old IBM flag ships did that due to inner mechanics, and they are supposed to be great (still traded heavily on e-bay). I was already thinking of getting a simliar keyboard for work, because the "I'm working" noise is unbeatable :)
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i agree ... i use laptop mice cos they are small (like my delicate lil hands) and very light ... and as shog says ... what the hell do you do with a mouse that the cord is a problem??? on second thoughts dont answer that question :wtf:
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l a u r e n wrote:
like my delicate lil hands
Coming from you, that sounds scary somehow :~
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I got used to them. I Frequently use [WIN]-[D], [WIN]-[E] and [WIN]-[R], and the cotext menu key is very very handy if you, err... like... mayb... i never heard of such as case but... you don't have a mouse.
Steve_Harris wrote:
One of our secretaries used to use a keyboard which clicked as the keys went down *and* up
One of the old IBM flag ships did that due to inner mechanics, and they are supposed to be great (still traded heavily on e-bay). I was already thinking of getting a simliar keyboard for work, because the "I'm working" noise is unbeatable :)
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My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistpeterchen wrote:
I Frequently use [WIN]-[D], [WIN]-[E] and [WIN]-[R]
I use those and [WIN] - [F] a lot.
peterchen wrote:
the "I'm working" noise is unbeatable
Record an audio loop and play it whenever you are doing things like browsing the lounge. :~
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I have wired CVS (a drugstore here in the US) $5 mouse which I absolutely love. And what I discovered I love about it is that it's so LIGHT. The wireless mice just can't compete--the weight of the batteries themselves are more than what that CVS mouse weighs. I've found that mouse weight is really an important feature in reducing wrist strain. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithNaw, you don't need a cord flopping around on your desk. The Wacom Graphire tablet is the best of both worlds. The cord connects to a small tablet that you can use both a mouse and a pen. The mouse is really wireless in the sense that it is used on top of the tablet and thus has no mouse ball to collect dirt, hair or the coffee you spilled last. The mouse is very light since it has no batteries not heavy ball. My replacement mouse (I actually used one for enough years that it died) seemed to weight a bit more so I opened it up and found they had put a weight in it to make it that way, just slipped that puppy off and had my light mouse again ;). The pen option is also nice when you use Photoshop, but I seledom used it, my main reason for the Graphire is as a mouse. http://www.wacom.com/graphire/[^]
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peterchen wrote:
Just the classic layout (with windows keys), no funny extra keys, no "optimized for your pleasure" key layout, just the real thing.
Personally I hate the Windows keys. :mad: Never deliberately pushed one in my life. I want a keyboard with no Windows keys and a sensible-length spacebar. And no click. Definitely no click. One of our secretaries used to use a keyboard which clicked as the keys went down *and* up, I suspect to make it sound like she was typing twice as fast as she actually was.
Steve_Harris wrote:
Never deliberately pushed one in my life.
Big mistake, huge... :) Actually, it is like a scroll wheel, once you get use to it there is no going back.. http://www.hintsandtips.com/ShowPost/23/hat.aspx[^]
Steve_Harris wrote:
And no click.
Not sure if this keyboard produces the "click" sound, but I am hoping it is like the one I a couple decades ago that had a click feedback on your fingers. It would be more like the key was clicked rather that the stupid membrane keyboards that just kind of thud. That thud seems to zap all energy from your hands. When you have a click keyboard it seems when you are pressing down the key, it reaches a point and then releases. I would love to have a keybord that felt like that again, but it much have the wake, sleep and hibernate keys, I am addicted to them in Vista!
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Naw, you don't need a cord flopping around on your desk. The Wacom Graphire tablet is the best of both worlds. The cord connects to a small tablet that you can use both a mouse and a pen. The mouse is really wireless in the sense that it is used on top of the tablet and thus has no mouse ball to collect dirt, hair or the coffee you spilled last. The mouse is very light since it has no batteries not heavy ball. My replacement mouse (I actually used one for enough years that it died) seemed to weight a bit more so I opened it up and found they had put a weight in it to make it that way, just slipped that puppy off and had my light mouse again ;). The pen option is also nice when you use Photoshop, but I seledom used it, my main reason for the Graphire is as a mouse. http://www.wacom.com/graphire/[^]
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Interesting. I assume the mouse is really just like a pen, but shaped like a mouse? How do you right click? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Steve_Harris wrote:
Never deliberately pushed one in my life.
Big mistake, huge... :) Actually, it is like a scroll wheel, once you get use to it there is no going back.. http://www.hintsandtips.com/ShowPost/23/hat.aspx[^]
Steve_Harris wrote:
And no click.
Not sure if this keyboard produces the "click" sound, but I am hoping it is like the one I a couple decades ago that had a click feedback on your fingers. It would be more like the key was clicked rather that the stupid membrane keyboards that just kind of thud. That thud seems to zap all energy from your hands. When you have a click keyboard it seems when you are pressing down the key, it reaches a point and then releases. I would love to have a keybord that felt like that again, but it much have the wake, sleep and hibernate keys, I am addicted to them in Vista!
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There are no Windows keys shortcut functions that I use regularly that I can't get to easily using my mouse, so it's still not much of an attraction. It's also a pain when using other OSs that you are always reminded of MS by your keyboard. :P
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Interesting. I assume the mouse is really just like a pen, but shaped like a mouse? How do you right click? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithNope, normal size mouse with two buttons and scroll wheel (cannot live without that ;) ).
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Nope, normal size mouse with two buttons and scroll wheel (cannot live without that ;) ).
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Rocky Moore wrote:
Nope, normal size mouse with two buttons and scroll wheel (cannot live without that ).
Interesting! How is it powered? I couldn't figure that out from the website. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith