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    Chris Maunder
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    I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

    cheers, Chris Maunder

    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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      Paul Conrad
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      :cool: Out of curiosity, what kind is it?

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        :cool: Out of curiosity, what kind is it?

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        Chris Maunder
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        Big and black and shiny with (did I mention?) a potentially completely useless GPS. Otherwise known as the 8800[^]

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          brianwelsch
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          Does it show altitude, too?

          BW


          Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
          Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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            Big and black and shiny with (did I mention?) a potentially completely useless GPS. Otherwise known as the 8800[^]

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Paul Conrad
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            (did I mention?) a potentially completely useless GPS

            Yep, you mentioned the GPS being useless. The 8800 looks pretty slick, I've got Cingular so maybe I ought to get one :-D If time permitting, you need to make a drool smiley :rolleyes:

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              Big and black and shiny with (did I mention?) a potentially completely useless GPS. Otherwise known as the 8800[^]

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              El Corazon
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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              a potentially completely useless GPS.

              :wtf::wtf::wtf: But, but, but, all GPS devices are geekily useful! :rolleyes: If you are ever lost you can call on your blackberry and tell them: "I am lost at latitude yy.yyyyyy and longitude xx.xxxxx." while they reply, "sounds like you know where you are, so you can't be lost, we're going to sue you for using this emergency number." ;P

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                lost in transition
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                So very cool.

                Golly gees Wally, I gona havta get Anut Bee to get me ones. Yep, for the record I'm from the South and I want this one Treo 750[^]


                God Bless, Jason
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                • C Chris Maunder

                  I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Ed Gadziemski
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                  Sellout. You're now officially a cog in the corporate-industrial-military machine. :)

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Roger Wright
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                    I spent a bunch on a Garmin unit and then discovered that the built in GPS in my phone is more accurate. Of course, both use long/lat and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless. The one and only cool thing I can think of is that the phone is the same one we use at work, and the field crews are in the habit of disappearing to spend an hour having breakfast. None of them knows that Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet. I think it would be great to call the restaurant some morning and ask for them by name. Or at home, if the map shows them parked in the driveway when they should be working (it's happened).:-D

                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      I spent a bunch on a Garmin unit and then discovered that the built in GPS in my phone is more accurate. Of course, both use long/lat and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless. The one and only cool thing I can think of is that the phone is the same one we use at work, and the field crews are in the habit of disappearing to spend an hour having breakfast. None of them knows that Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet. I think it would be great to call the restaurant some morning and ask for them by name. Or at home, if the map shows them parked in the driveway when they should be working (it's happened).:-D

                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      El Corazon
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                      Roger Wright wrote:

                      and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless.

                      change the settings of the Garmin to report in UTM. The conversion from lat/long to UTM is relatively simple, as far as conversions go. :) For work I have to set my Garmin to UTM for some things, Geodetic for others. That was why I got the Garmin, choice in settings, you aren't stuck at lat/long. :)

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Always sad to see someone abandon their principles....

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I've finally done it. I have a blackberry. I swore to Dave that Hell would freeze over before this day happened but there you go. But mine has a GPS. And it's so cool. So very cool. I have absolutely no idea what I'm going to do with a device that doesn't seem to be supported by Vista and can only give me latitude and longitude, but I'm totally geeking out watching it aquire satelites. So I hear this thing can make phone calls and stuff too...

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          David Cunningham
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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          I have a blackberry

                          Hi my name is Chris Maunder and I have a Blackberry. Welcome Chris. I never thought I'd be here, but now that I am I'm happy to be supported by my friends. It's been 7 days since I geo-located myself with my 8800. We know how you feel Chris, and again welcome and well done.

                          David

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                            Roger Wright wrote:

                            and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless.

                            change the settings of the Garmin to report in UTM. The conversion from lat/long to UTM is relatively simple, as far as conversions go. :) For work I have to set my Garmin to UTM for some things, Geodetic for others. That was why I got the Garmin, choice in settings, you aren't stuck at lat/long. :)

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            I did that, but it's not much help. Even with WAAS enabled it's only good for about 8 meters. My Nextel phone reports an accuracy of <3 meters, but it's stuck in one mode - the wrong one. What I really want is one of these[^]!:-D

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              I spent a bunch on a Garmin unit and then discovered that the built in GPS in my phone is more accurate. Of course, both use long/lat and the world of GIS uses UTM, so both are relatively useless. The one and only cool thing I can think of is that the phone is the same one we use at work, and the field crews are in the habit of disappearing to spend an hour having breakfast. None of them knows that Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet. I think it would be great to call the restaurant some morning and ask for them by name. Or at home, if the map shows them parked in the driveway when they should be working (it's happened).:-D

                              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              David Cunningham
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                              Roger Wright wrote:

                              Nextel offers a cheap service that will allow the boss to locate all the phones via the Internet

                              Do you have a link?

                              David

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                                I did that, but it's not much help. Even with WAAS enabled it's only good for about 8 meters. My Nextel phone reports an accuracy of <3 meters, but it's stuck in one mode - the wrong one. What I really want is one of these[^]!:-D

                                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                This is new to me: submeter GPS Is that real?

                                David

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                                  This is new to me: submeter GPS Is that real?

                                  David

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  Yup, but it's pricey. We use sub-foot GPS for surveying on the reservation, but that requires a base station and presurveyed benchmarks. For a handheld, this baby is the best value I've found. There's a model that's even more accurate, but the price goes up significantly.

                                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                    This is new to me: submeter GPS Is that real?

                                    David

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                                    El Corazon
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                                    David Cunningham wrote:

                                    submeter GPS

                                    yes, but phones are not usually satellite based GPS, although the math is the same, the distances are less. GPS is based on multiple satellite signals being received, combined with distance and location, you get a rough location via overlapping spheres. Elevation is the most difficult. The more horizon satellites the more accurate your location is. The more satellites in the solution, the more accurate your location is. My Garmin generally provides 6ft(2m) with WAAS, 12-18ft without WAAS. Most phones use overlapping cellular tower signals for location, and some use it as a WAAS to improve satellite location. The process is the same, and the message/calculations are the same, but the transport is via the cell. Cross-timings for distance/location are much easier from surface to surface than from orbit to surface.

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                                      I did that, but it's not much help. Even with WAAS enabled it's only good for about 8 meters. My Nextel phone reports an accuracy of <3 meters, but it's stuck in one mode - the wrong one. What I really want is one of these[^]!:-D

                                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                      El Corazon
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                                      Roger Wright wrote:

                                      What I really want is one of these[^]!

                                      They are nice, we have two for surveying. But the garmin is still handy because it is faster and more portable -- with the external antenna we get 2 meter accuracy and can take it anywhere. Plus with the magnetic mounting, we can put the antenna on things to measure their location, even 20feet in the air. :)

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Yup, but it's pricey. We use sub-foot GPS for surveying on the reservation, but that requires a base station and presurveyed benchmarks. For a handheld, this baby is the best value I've found. There's a model that's even more accurate, but the price goes up significantly.

                                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                        El Corazon
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                                        Roger Wright wrote:

                                        but the price goes up significantly.

                                        I would say that is pretty near an understatement. The price goes up near exponentially!

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                          David Cunningham wrote:

                                          submeter GPS

                                          yes, but phones are not usually satellite based GPS, although the math is the same, the distances are less. GPS is based on multiple satellite signals being received, combined with distance and location, you get a rough location via overlapping spheres. Elevation is the most difficult. The more horizon satellites the more accurate your location is. The more satellites in the solution, the more accurate your location is. My Garmin generally provides 6ft(2m) with WAAS, 12-18ft without WAAS. Most phones use overlapping cellular tower signals for location, and some use it as a WAAS to improve satellite location. The process is the same, and the message/calculations are the same, but the transport is via the cell. Cross-timings for distance/location are much easier from surface to surface than from orbit to surface.

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                          David Cunningham
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                                          I understand but didn't realize that it had evolved to that point yet.

                                          David

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