Company Says .NET Violates Its Patent
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
This is ridiculous. This patent sounds so all-encompsing that it seems like anyone doing any sort of object based programming would violate the patent. Just plain stupid and shows how ineffectual and useless the Patent Office really is.
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
It looks to me that the patent (patented in 2004, btw) describes a 3-tier architecture more than .Net. I hate to break it to them, but that's been around a bit longer.
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
Maybe I should patent "an apparatus for generating arbitrary visual images using a rectangular array of picture elements" :rolleyes:
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Maybe I should patent "an apparatus for generating arbitrary visual images using a rectangular array of picture elements" :rolleyes:
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We always joke like this when these stupid lawsuits come up, but could we actually do that? It does seem like a popular business plan. Maybe we could form CodeProject Patent Holdings, Inc, and go round getting patents on all the really obvious future developments. A patent on transmitting electricty to devices without using wires ought to be worth trillions in the future, as well as one on converting moon dust into energy.
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
Hmm... didn't Sun do that with Java?
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
This is so small potatoes. Shortly, the patent on my ingenious algorithm for generating all possible sets of digital data will come through... Soon, you'll all paying me license fees when you purchase hard drives and RAM chips! BWAHAHAHAHA!
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This is so small potatoes. Shortly, the patent on my ingenious algorithm for generating all possible sets of digital data will come through... Soon, you'll all paying me license fees when you purchase hard drives and RAM chips! BWAHAHAHAHA!
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
Russell Morris wrote:
Shortly, the patent on my ingenious algorithm for generating all possible sets of digital data will come through...
oh yeah.... well I got you beat.... no one has had patented the patent process... ;P My application was just approved... pay up! ;P
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Russell Morris wrote:
Shortly, the patent on my ingenious algorithm for generating all possible sets of digital data will come through...
oh yeah.... well I got you beat.... no one has had patented the patent process... ;P My application was just approved... pay up! ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
oh yeah.... well I got you beat.... no one has had patented the patent process...
How so? I already have a patent pending on the plaintext, HTML, PDF, Word, Wordstar, EBCDIC, and LaTeX renderings of your patent application. Not to mention a PGP-signed email from you declaring that I have all rights to your patents and power of attorney!
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
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This is so small potatoes. Shortly, the patent on my ingenious algorithm for generating all possible sets of digital data will come through... Soon, you'll all paying me license fees when you purchase hard drives and RAM chips! BWAHAHAHAHA!
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
Doesn't that infringe on Microsoft's patent on 1s and 0s? Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes[^]
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Doesn't that infringe on Microsoft's patent on 1s and 0s? Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes[^]
Glenn Dawson wrote:
Doesn't that infringe on Microsoft's patent on 1s and 0s? Microsoft Patents Ones, Zeroes[^]
Blast! I'd forgotten about that one - great article.
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
Yep, this patent doesn’t really apply to .net and has an age problem which shows that the patent office is pointless when it comes to this new fangled electronic computational machines we have today. i think it would be interesting if the patent offices just voided all Computer based patents..... Companies would have to create good reliable software and hardware to compete with us open source developers and the small development houses :omg:
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Hmm... didn't Sun do that with Java?
My thoughts exactly. Then I started to wonder about other environments such as MATLAB, scripting (Unix, Windows, ...) seems like this could go on down to the basic hardware. Oh, another though, what about assembly lines like Ford and GM have? Would they be subject to this patent? Phil
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We always joke like this when these stupid lawsuits come up, but could we actually do that? It does seem like a popular business plan. Maybe we could form CodeProject Patent Holdings, Inc, and go round getting patents on all the really obvious future developments. A patent on transmitting electricty to devices without using wires ought to be worth trillions in the future, as well as one on converting moon dust into energy.
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It looks to me that the patent (patented in 2004, btw) describes a 3-tier architecture more than .Net. I hate to break it to them, but that's been around a bit longer.
Red Stateler wrote:
It looks to me that the patent (patented in 2004, btw)
Wait, they are suing MS for breaching their patent which they patented a good 3 years (I first used .NET while it was a beta in 2001) after .NET was available. It seems there is a pretty obvious case of prior art.
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Here is the link to the article http://adtmag.com/article.aspx?id=20548[^] Here is the abstract from the patent website. A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications. It seems to me that anything anyone does on the internet, in IT, or as a developer, is covered by a patent somewhere. The only thing that keeps them from coming after you is that you don't have any money. Anyway, since CP is mostly about Microsoft development and .NET, I thought you ought to know. Enjoy Vincent
I think issues like this are just pirates trying to scam large companies into paying them move to avoid the hassle of a legal battle. There is no way that would hold up in court.
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We always joke like this when these stupid lawsuits come up, but could we actually do that? It does seem like a popular business plan. Maybe we could form CodeProject Patent Holdings, Inc, and go round getting patents on all the really obvious future developments. A patent on transmitting electricty to devices without using wires ought to be worth trillions in the future, as well as one on converting moon dust into energy.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music should programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
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Red Stateler wrote:
It looks to me that the patent (patented in 2004, btw)
Wait, they are suing MS for breaching their patent which they patented a good 3 years (I first used .NET while it was a beta in 2001) after .NET was available. It seems there is a pretty obvious case of prior art.
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The priority date on the patent is actually October 1999, so you will have to look a bit earlier for prior art. Just clicked on patents that reference this one, and how about this patent[^] granted to IBM last year (abstract): A method and system for delivering dynamic web pages in the INTERNET. Compiled programs embedding static queries to a database are stored on a server computer; view templates with HTML tags defining the layout of corresponding dynamic web pages and data tags instructing where and how to include each record of the query result into the respective dynamic web page are further stored on the server computer. When a dynamic web page must be distributed, the corresponding program is run, and the query result is stored into a shared memory structure. The query result is combined with the corresponding view template, by replacing the data tags with the associated records in the shared memory structure. The resulting web page is then distributed to client computers of the network. The patent office seems to issue patents for common sense design.
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Maybe I should patent "an apparatus for generating arbitrary visual images using a rectangular array of picture elements" :rolleyes:
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What about an apparatus for detecting the light emitted by your apparatus and converting it into neural activity?