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The effect of religion

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  • R Red Stateler

    Tamimi - Code wrote:

    could i ask you what will makes you kill you self ??

    Virgin-sex?

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    Tamimi Code
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    good for you, this is what you will teach your children to sacrifice for !!!!!!!!!1

    When you get mad...THINK twice that the only advice Tamimi - Code

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    • T Tamimi Code

      Le Centriste wrote:

      I am talking about the idiots who blow themselves up in the name of Allah

      could i ask you what will makes you kill you self ?? don't say idiots , they have the brave to die for what they believe in. i don't understand why in your opinion they are idiots ?? please tell me

      When you get mad...THINK twice that the only advice Tamimi - Code

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      Ryan Roberts
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      So was Hitler Then, Mein Kampf is still a big seller in the Islamic world. Should dig up the photo of the copy autographed by that murdering pederast Arafat.

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      • T Tamimi Code

        Le Centriste wrote:

        I am talking about the idiots who blow themselves up in the name of Allah

        could i ask you what will makes you kill you self ?? don't say idiots , they have the brave to die for what they believe in. i don't understand why in your opinion they are idiots ?? please tell me

        When you get mad...THINK twice that the only advice Tamimi - Code

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        AndyKEnZ
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        Tamimi - Code wrote:

        could i ask you what will makes you kill you self ??

        Try this for an explanation: http://www.newstatesman.com/200704230019[^]

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        • T Tamimi Code

          good for you, this is what you will teach your children to sacrifice for !!!!!!!!!1

          When you get mad...THINK twice that the only advice Tamimi - Code

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          Red Stateler
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          OMG!!!!1111 Seriously. From an extremist fundamentalist Islamic perspective, could you explain the virtues of walking onto a bus filled with women and children and blowing yourself up? Also, explain how it's "brave" and not selfish to do that when you firmly believe that you will be "rewarded" with paradise? Why would killing swaths of innocent people for you own personal gain be considered positive?

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          • R Red Stateler

            Le Centriste wrote:

            I am not talking about him.

            Oh, of course not! let's just sweep that little episode under the rug!

            Le Centriste wrote:

            I am talking about the idiots who blow themselves up in the name of Allah. Get it, now?

            I don't think the study is talking about Muslims. If you read the description of the religion they studied, it seems to be Christianity and the antithesis of Islam.

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            Le centriste
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            Red Stateler wrote:

            Oh, of course not! let's just sweep that little episode under the rug!

            That is not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth.

            ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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            • M Mike Gaskey

              on children and families[^]

              Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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              James L Thomson
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              John Bartkowski, a Mississippi State University sociologist and his colleagues asked the parents and teachers of more than 16,000 kids, most of them first-graders, to rate how much self control they believed the kids had, how often they exhibited poor or unhappy behavior and how well they respected and worked with their peers.

              No blinding, subjective measures, testing the parents'/teachers' opinions of the children rather that the children themselves ... nope, no problems with that study.:laugh:

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              • T Tamimi Code

                Le Centriste wrote:

                I am talking about the idiots who blow themselves up in the name of Allah

                could i ask you what will makes you kill you self ?? don't say idiots , they have the brave to die for what they believe in. i don't understand why in your opinion they are idiots ?? please tell me

                When you get mad...THINK twice that the only advice Tamimi - Code

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                Le centriste
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                Blowing up yourself in a public place dragging innocent bystanders with you in death, on the mere promise of heaven and virgins is certainly not a sign of intelligence.

                ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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                • M Mike Gaskey

                  on children and families[^]

                  Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                  Al Beback
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                  So in your opinion, are atheists, agnostics, and other unreligious people capable of raising happy, moral children?


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                  • R Red Stateler

                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Religion is designed to make people docile and compliant.

                    I thought that's what weed was for.

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                    led mike
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                    Red Stateler wrote:

                    I thought that's what weed was for.

                    So you think God created those plants to make people more docile and compliant? Interesting.

                    led mike

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                    • M Mike Gaskey

                      fat_boy wrote:

                      Religion is designed to make people docile and compliant

                      your opinion.

                      Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                      Lost User
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                      Mike Gaskey wrote:

                      your opinion.

                      Really? It wasnt me who coined the word 'heretic'. Its the chirch that wants people docile and compliant.

                      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                      • L led mike

                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        I thought that's what weed was for.

                        So you think God created those plants to make people more docile and compliant? Interesting.

                        led mike

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                        Shog9 0
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                        Choice...

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                        It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                        --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          fat_boy wrote:

                          Religion is designed to make people docile and compliant

                          You don't need religion to achieve that.

                          Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                          Lost User
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                          Even communism couldnt keep the masses in line anywhere near as effectively, or for as long as religion has. -- modified at 4:28 Thursday 26th April, 2007

                          Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                          • L led mike

                            Red Stateler wrote:

                            I thought that's what weed was for.

                            So you think God created those plants to make people more docile and compliant? Interesting.

                            led mike

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                            Red Stateler
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                            led mike wrote:

                            So you think God created those plants to make people more docile and compliant? Interesting.

                            More interesting is the fact that leftists seem to push it so hard. Why do you think that is?

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                            • R Red Stateler

                              Cho? Oh wait...He was an atheist.

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                              Al Beback
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                              Red Stateler wrote:

                              He was an atheist.

                              Hey, you worthless unchristian bigot, who cares what he was? It obviously had no bearing on his actions. What if he had been a Catholic, would you then condemn Catholicism?


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                              • A Al Beback

                                So in your opinion, are atheists, agnostics, and other unreligious people capable of raising happy, moral children?


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                                VonHagNDaz
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                                religion tells you what is moral and immoral for you. however, people without religion can have similar or even better morals. a "good man" is a good man, regardless of spiritual associations.

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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  fat_boy wrote:

                                  Religion is designed to make people docile and compliant.

                                  I thought that's what weed was for.

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                                  VonHagNDaz
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                                  i thought it was for unwinding after staring at a monitor for 9 hours a day 5 days a week. that and playing XBox360...

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                                  • R Red Stateler

                                    led mike wrote:

                                    So you think God created those plants to make people more docile and compliant? Interesting.

                                    More interesting is the fact that leftists seem to push it so hard. Why do you think that is?

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                                    VonHagNDaz
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                                    Red Stateler wrote:

                                    More interesting is the fact that leftists seem to push it so hard

                                    left, right, who cares. the fact is marijuana isnt hurting any one. tax it, grow better quality, and put the street dealers out of business. and what about the children? it poses the same risk to kids as underage drinking and cigarette smoking...

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                                    • A Al Beback

                                      Red Stateler wrote:

                                      He was an atheist.

                                      Hey, you worthless unchristian bigot, who cares what he was? It obviously had no bearing on his actions. What if he had been a Catholic, would you then condemn Catholicism?


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                                      Red Stateler
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                                      Al Beback wrote:

                                      Hey, you worthless unchristian bigot, who cares what he was? It obviously had no bearing on his actions. What if he had been a Catholic, would you then condemn Catholicism?

                                      Wow. What a delightful double-standard you have! If he had been Catholic and the Catholic Church's teachings specifically lead him to kill 32 people and himself, then I'd say there is something wrong there. But since the Catholic Church generally frown upon mass-murder, that's simply not the case. However, since this isn't the first time that the inevitable nihilism of atheism lead a young man to commit mass-murder, then it's right to condemn atheism and you for endorsing it.

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                                        Red Stateler wrote:

                                        More interesting is the fact that leftists seem to push it so hard

                                        left, right, who cares. the fact is marijuana isnt hurting any one. tax it, grow better quality, and put the street dealers out of business. and what about the children? it poses the same risk to kids as underage drinking and cigarette smoking...

                                        ------------------------------ I win because I have the most fun in life...

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        Marijuana is a vice, meaning it hurts those that partake in it. Personally, I've known numerous people who began using it and in every single case of regular users (except one) their lives fell apart as a result. The exception is a 62 year old millionaire who has no need to actually work.

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                                          Even communism couldnt keep the masses in line anywhere near as effectively, or for as long as religion has. -- modified at 4:28 Thursday 26th April, 2007

                                          Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          Are you 'in line' with anything?

                                          Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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