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    Christian Graus
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    Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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      Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      Sweet, I've used the previous two. They are nice for sure. My favorite was the original web developer addon that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.


      "People who want to share their religious views with you almost never want you to share yours with them." - Anonymous Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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        Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        Kent Sharkey
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        I'm not sure if it's because there are more Web problems with IE, or that it works more like I think, but I've found I've been using this more frequently than Firebug lately.

        -------------- TTFN - Kent

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          I'm not sure if it's because there are more Web problems with IE, or that it works more like I think, but I've found I've been using this more frequently than Firebug lately.

          -------------- TTFN - Kent

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          Christian Graus
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          Today is the first time I've had code that runs in FF and not IE, the reverse is almost always true.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            Today is the first time I've had code that runs in FF and not IE, the reverse is almost always true.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            Kent Sharkey
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Today is the first time I've had code that runs in FF and not IE, the reverse is almost always true.

            /shrug A bit of both usually, I usually find my FF problems are when I throw in an accidental blast from my past like document.all[foo]. However, for true "WTF is going on?!?", IE usually wins the case. I've been trying to debug a problem with some pages that only appears in IE7 on *some* Vista machines (but not Remote Desktop or Virtual Machines) for weeks now (my only Vista machine is a VM).

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              Today is the first time I've had code that runs in FF and not IE, the reverse is almost always true.

              /shrug A bit of both usually, I usually find my FF problems are when I throw in an accidental blast from my past like document.all[foo]. However, for true "WTF is going on?!?", IE usually wins the case. I've been trying to debug a problem with some pages that only appears in IE7 on *some* Vista machines (but not Remote Desktop or Virtual Machines) for weeks now (my only Vista machine is a VM).

              -------------- TTFN - Kent

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              JakeSays
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              Hmm. Sounds like an Aero problem. Vista doesn't support Aero glass under RDP or vm's as far as I know. Jake

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              • C Christian Graus

                Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                Dan Iveson
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                Didn't work for me (XP Pro and IE7). Every time I tried to use it I got a 'choose your debugger' type dialog. So I uninstalled it and went back to the previous version. And I'm not keen on Firebug either, just seems too cumbersome.

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                  Didn't work for me (XP Pro and IE7). Every time I tried to use it I got a 'choose your debugger' type dialog. So I uninstalled it and went back to the previous version. And I'm not keen on Firebug either, just seems too cumbersome.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Funny, I installed it ( XP, IE6 ), because no matter what I tried, I COULDN'T get that dialog....

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                    Didn't work for me (XP Pro and IE7). Every time I tried to use it I got a 'choose your debugger' type dialog. So I uninstalled it and went back to the previous version. And I'm not keen on Firebug either, just seems too cumbersome.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Are you a web-dev?

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                      Sweet, I've used the previous two. They are nice for sure. My favorite was the original web developer addon that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.


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                      Paul Watson
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                      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                      that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.

                      How so? You could "Show source of selected", "Show Generated Source" and show all source with a collapsible DOM tree.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                        Are you a web-dev?

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                        Dan Iveson
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                        Web and anything other platforms I need to use to keep my employer happy

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                          jocstar
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                          I have tried it, but for me it doesnt come close to firebug in any way shape or form (javascript debugging anyone??) also for some still unknown reason on my current ongoing project, it caused my browser to occasionally freeze and stop responding, took ages to track it back to this add-on. But its a start...

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                            Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                            RichardGrimmer
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                            It's been around for a while - if you can get hold of the previous version, it's MUCH more stable - the newer one (albeit a beta) is incredibly flaky, with things like "Select Element By Click" sometimes just flat out not working. Oh and it's irritating to keep having to add it to the toolbar too. FF's version - even the built in one is much better, but unfortunately, we don't support FF, so I'm stuck with this :(

                            "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                              I have tried it, but for me it doesnt come close to firebug in any way shape or form (javascript debugging anyone??) also for some still unknown reason on my current ongoing project, it caused my browser to occasionally freeze and stop responding, took ages to track it back to this add-on. But its a start...

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                              RichardGrimmer
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                              jocstar wrote:

                              (javascript debugging anyone??)

                              Internet options -> Advanced -> uncheck "Disable Script Debugging (Internet Explorer)....restart IE, and put a debugger; statement wherever you fancy one!

                              "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.

                                How so? You could "Show source of selected", "Show Generated Source" and show all source with a collapsible DOM tree.

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                Shog9 wrote:

                                And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                Hmmm, in FF2 I only see "View Selection Source". However, previously, this showed the selected source as part of the overall source instead of only the selected source, or so I swear. I didn't like it since it showed the original data instead of the generated HTML code. Where are the options you are referring to?


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                                  Hmmm, in FF2 I only see "View Selection Source". However, previously, this showed the selected source as part of the overall source instead of only the selected source, or so I swear. I didn't like it since it showed the original data instead of the generated HTML code. Where are the options you are referring to?


                                  "The trouble with the profit system has always been that it was highly unprofitable to most people." - E. B. White Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  You need the Web Developer Extension[^].

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                    I'm not sure if it's because there are more Web problems with IE, or that it works more like I think, but I've found I've been using this more frequently than Firebug lately.

                                    -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                                    3KWA
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                                    You should also check DebugBar http://www.debugbar.com which coupled with Companion.JS (when it will mature) is probably the closest thing you'll get to FireBug on Internet Explorer. -- OT: another cool add-on for IE is Inline Search http://www.ieforge.com/InlineSearch EuGeNe -- http://www.3kwa.com Live from MIX07

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                                      You need the Web Developer Extension[^].

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      Thanks. Have that. Never noticed it before. :-O


                                      "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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                                        You need the Web Developer Extension[^].

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                        Thanks. Have that. Never noticed it before. :-O


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                                          Are you a web-dev?

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Paul Watson wrote:

                                          Are you a web-dev?

                                          No! He's a Tasmanian.

                                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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