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  • D Dan Iveson

    Didn't work for me (XP Pro and IE7). Every time I tried to use it I got a 'choose your debugger' type dialog. So I uninstalled it and went back to the previous version. And I'm not keen on Firebug either, just seems too cumbersome.

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    Christian Graus
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    Funny, I installed it ( XP, IE6 ), because no matter what I tried, I COULDN'T get that dialog....

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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    • D Dan Iveson

      Didn't work for me (XP Pro and IE7). Every time I tried to use it I got a 'choose your debugger' type dialog. So I uninstalled it and went back to the previous version. And I'm not keen on Firebug either, just seems too cumbersome.

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      Paul Watson
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      Are you a web-dev?

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

      Shog9 wrote:

      And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        Sweet, I've used the previous two. They are nice for sure. My favorite was the original web developer addon that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.


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        Paul Watson
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        Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

        that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.

        How so? You could "Show source of selected", "Show Generated Source" and show all source with a collapsible DOM tree.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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        • P Paul Watson

          Are you a web-dev?

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Shog9 wrote:

          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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          Dan Iveson
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          Web and anything other platforms I need to use to keep my employer happy

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          • C Christian Graus

            Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            jocstar
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            I have tried it, but for me it doesnt come close to firebug in any way shape or form (javascript debugging anyone??) also for some still unknown reason on my current ongoing project, it caused my browser to occasionally freeze and stop responding, took ages to track it back to this add-on. But its a start...

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            • C Christian Graus

              Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              RichardGrimmer
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              It's been around for a while - if you can get hold of the previous version, it's MUCH more stable - the newer one (albeit a beta) is incredibly flaky, with things like "Select Element By Click" sometimes just flat out not working. Oh and it's irritating to keep having to add it to the toolbar too. FF's version - even the built in one is much better, but unfortunately, we don't support FF, so I'm stuck with this :(

              "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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              • J jocstar

                I have tried it, but for me it doesnt come close to firebug in any way shape or form (javascript debugging anyone??) also for some still unknown reason on my current ongoing project, it caused my browser to occasionally freeze and stop responding, took ages to track it back to this add-on. But its a start...

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                RichardGrimmer
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                jocstar wrote:

                (javascript debugging anyone??)

                Internet options -> Advanced -> uncheck "Disable Script Debugging (Internet Explorer)....restart IE, and put a debugger; statement wherever you fancy one!

                "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                  that showed partial source. Firefox's way doesn't do it justice.

                  How so? You could "Show source of selected", "Show Generated Source" and show all source with a collapsible DOM tree.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                  Hmmm, in FF2 I only see "View Selection Source". However, previously, this showed the selected source as part of the overall source instead of only the selected source, or so I swear. I didn't like it since it showed the original data instead of the generated HTML code. Where are the options you are referring to?


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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    Hmmm, in FF2 I only see "View Selection Source". However, previously, this showed the selected source as part of the overall source instead of only the selected source, or so I swear. I didn't like it since it showed the original data instead of the generated HTML code. Where are the options you are referring to?


                    "The trouble with the profit system has always been that it was highly unprofitable to most people." - E. B. White Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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                    Paul Watson
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                    You need the Web Developer Extension[^].

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                    • K Kent Sharkey

                      I'm not sure if it's because there are more Web problems with IE, or that it works more like I think, but I've found I've been using this more frequently than Firebug lately.

                      -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                      You should also check DebugBar http://www.debugbar.com which coupled with Companion.JS (when it will mature) is probably the closest thing you'll get to FireBug on Internet Explorer. -- OT: another cool add-on for IE is Inline Search http://www.ieforge.com/InlineSearch EuGeNe -- http://www.3kwa.com Live from MIX07

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        You need the Web Developer Extension[^].

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                        Bassam Abdul Baki
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                        Thanks. Have that. Never noticed it before. :-O


                        "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn - BM

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          You need the Web Developer Extension[^].

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Shog9 wrote:

                          And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          Thanks. Have that. Never noticed it before. :-O


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                          • P Paul Watson

                            Are you a web-dev?

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Shog9 wrote:

                            And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

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                            Lost User
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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Are you a web-dev?

                            No! He's a Tasmanian.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                            • R RichardGrimmer

                              jocstar wrote:

                              (javascript debugging anyone??)

                              Internet options -> Advanced -> uncheck "Disable Script Debugging (Internet Explorer)....restart IE, and put a debugger; statement wherever you fancy one!

                              "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                              jocstar
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                              I know, thats the unfortunate way we have to work in IE, but its hardly as convenient as having it integrated into the browser with the ability to breakpoint and browse any scripts at will. Maybe I am missing something there, but I dont seem to be able to easily do that with Visual Studio 2003?? Still at least they finally seem to be trying :)

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                              • R RichardGrimmer

                                jocstar wrote:

                                (javascript debugging anyone??)

                                Internet options -> Advanced -> uncheck "Disable Script Debugging (Internet Explorer)....restart IE, and put a debugger; statement wherever you fancy one!

                                "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                                Shog9 0
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                                Heh. I debug JS in both IE and FF on an almost-daily basis - using VS (or the old Script Debugger) doesn't even come close to Firebug in terms of speed and convenience. It's about on par with Venkman, a bit faster but rather less functional. Of course, YMMV. If your debugging needs are fairly simple and infrequent, and especially if you tend to write fairly simple JS code, the IE debugging support is sufficient. But for me, that's the biggest problem - i tend to write code for IE that can be debugged easily rather than structured the way i'd like it to be. IMHO, the biggest shame is that there's no good reason for it - they could do so much more with a script debugger than what they actually do; it ends up feeling like an afterthought.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  Has everyone seen this ? http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en[^] Sure, they are reacting to what FF does with Firebug, but, I don't care, I just like it.

                                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                  Shog9 0
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                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  Has everyone seen this ?

                                  Yeah. It's, um, better than nothing.

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                                  It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    Has everyone seen this ?

                                    Yeah. It's, um, better than nothing.

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                                    It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

                                    --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Firebug is better, but this is sure as hell better than nothing. It saved me yesterday, after an hour of trying to make script debugging work.

                                    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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