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VBxxxx (fill in your most hated incarnation) SUCKS

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  • A Al Beback

    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

    evil incarnation of Visual Baisc.

    It takes time, but you will be assimilated. :) When you start looking at how easy and quickly business apps can be written with it, you might actually start liking it, a little. The syntax? Yep, it sucks. But the IDE practically fills in (and indents) all that wonderful verbosity for you, so you don't feel the pain.


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    realJSOP
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    I prefer the verbosity because it means *I* have control over what's happening and when. I can promise I will never start liking VB.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      Does this mean that my VB program will be able to build a string that describes VB procedure and then run it (passing in params somehow)? And that my procedure will be able to find itself and change itself while it is running? Or is that too much to ask.

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      Or you can use delegates to inject code dynamically in C#.

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        Al Beback wrote:

        When you start looking at how easy and quickly business apps can be written with it, you might actually start liking it, a little.

        See also: Stockholm Syndrome...

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        :laugh:

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        • N NealAB

          Does this mean that my VB program will be able to build a string that describes VB procedure and then run it (passing in params somehow)? And that my procedure will be able to find itself and change itself while it is running? Or is that too much to ask.

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          Brady Kelly
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          You can do that in VB6 with the CallByName[^] function. When I discovered this it was the coolest thing since sliced bread, as I could use controls arrays, with a Tag property on each control indicating which property it was 'bound' to.

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          • N Nish Nishant

            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            You have to explain to them what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?"

            Cruel! :laugh:

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

            Cruel!

            Not at all!

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              I think their first coding standard should have been: Avoid Coding In Visual Basic

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              WillemM
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              I totally agree. They should have a warning page first. Warning, this page contains explicit VB content not to be viewed by C++, Java or C# developers :P

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                We've been a C++ shop since the beginning of time, but lately we find that almost all of the work we're doing right now involves some evil incarnation of Visual Baisc. None of us like coding in it, and we spend a good part of the day hurling insults at it. Our project manager chimes in with her usual harpie-like screech proclaiming "At least you have a job!". I hate her. In any case, one of our testers was crusing the web looking for something about VB, and she stumbled across this: http://www.visibleprogress.com/vb_coding_standards.htm[^] I thought some of you might enjoy it as much as we have.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                NormDroid
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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                At least you have a job!".

                Easy start looking for a new one and when you leave stick to her - bitch, I had PM's who act like that. John I feel your pain, personally if I was dumped with a VB project I would have to jump ship.

                .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Like almost everyone else here, we have no choice. In each and every dreary case, we're maintaining old code, and there is no funding for conversions. I hate my job.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Kevin McFarlane
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  I hate my job.

                  Does that mean you're looking around? :)

                  Kevin

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                  • K Kevin McFarlane

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I hate my job.

                    Does that mean you're looking around? :)

                    Kevin

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                    Not in San Antonio. Other than the job I have, and the occasional convenience store clerk, the highest tech job in this town is picking lettuce.

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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      At least you have a job!".

                      Easy start looking for a new one and when you leave stick to her - bitch, I had PM's who act like that. John I feel your pain, personally if I was dumped with a VB project I would have to jump ship.

                      .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                      realJSOP
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                      Unfortunately, San Antonio is more interested in attracting blue collar employers, so you can either pick vegetables, or work at the Toyota plant. Everyone looking for high-tech work eventually moves out of town.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Not in San Antonio. Other than the job I have, and the occasional convenience store clerk, the highest tech job in this town is picking lettuce.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Kevin McFarlane
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                        What a bummer! :(

                        Kevin

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          You have to explain to them what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?"

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Dan Neely
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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          You have to explain to them what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?"

                          May I use this as a sig?

                          -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            You have to explain to them what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?"

                            May I use this as a sig?

                            -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                            Yes. :) Anything I say can be used as a sig without first asking permission.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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