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  • E eggsovereasy

    Going to an alternative school means he was expelled from his prior school...

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    Dan Neely
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    and not just the next school district over either. Alternative schools are regional and filled exclusively with people who've been booted from their original location. Most of those students will have a criminal record with real crimes as opposed to thought crimes on it. The academics will probably be exclusively at the remedial level since generally good students don't get expelled. Assuming this kid is an average or better student (reasonable since a stupid person probably wouldn't be able to use the map editor) he'll be either bored out of his mind or doing an all day independent study and almost completely isolated from the other inmates in his school

    -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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      and not just the next school district over either. Alternative schools are regional and filled exclusively with people who've been booted from their original location. Most of those students will have a criminal record with real crimes as opposed to thought crimes on it. The academics will probably be exclusively at the remedial level since generally good students don't get expelled. Assuming this kid is an average or better student (reasonable since a stupid person probably wouldn't be able to use the map editor) he'll be either bored out of his mind or doing an all day independent study and almost completely isolated from the other inmates in his school

      -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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      Did you ever stop to consider that maybe this kid was a problem to begin with and this just made the school fear that he was going to act?

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      • L Le centriste

        Is this a common thing? Btw, did you know that in the UK 90% the police officers are not carrying weapons? I don't know the statistics, but I heard there is less casualties. -- modified at 10:54 Friday 4th May, 2007

        ----- Formerly MP(2) If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Unknown

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        Shog9 0
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        Le Centriste wrote:

        Is this a common thing?

        Police busting in on suspicion of drugs? It's not uncommon. The local cops here pretty near blew up one of my landlord's other properties about a year ago; threw in a bunch of those little rubber grenades (can't remember what they're called, they throw out a bunch of little rubber balls), blew out the windows, ruined the carpets, walls, etc. AFAIK, no drugs were found, nor were the tenants even home... It's pretty much ridiculous.

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        It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

        --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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        • S Shog9 0

          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

          I agree however that it would've been prudent NOT to have made that CS map.

          Only because of the general level of paranoia. Back in the day, we made Doom / C&C maps of everything. Because, seriously, who hasn't wanted to run through their local mall, etc., with a chainsaw... ...point is, he made a frickin' map. For a computer game. What's next, rape charges for sketching nude pictures of classmates? :rolleyes:

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          It appears that everybody is under the impression that I approve of the documentation. You probably also blame Ken Burns for supporting slavery.

          --Raymond Chen on MSDN

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          Shog9 wrote:

          Because, seriously, who hasn't wanted to run through their local mall, etc., with a chainsaw...

          :laugh:

          Shog on learning VB6: Ah, that would have been VB6. Kicked my ass anyway. So easy to learn, just like falling down a flight of stairs...

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            led mike wrote:

            So you believe the Warren Commission told the truth when they provided the magic bullet theory as an explanation of how Oswald acted alone?

            Most sane people do.

            Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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            led mike
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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            Most sane people do.

            So you believe all the people on the Warren Commission are/were insane?

            led mike

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              led mike wrote:

              Does a mouse know he is being programmed while running through the maze?

              Are you suggesting tin foil for all high school students?

              led mike wrote:

              So you believe the Warren Commission told the truth when they provided the magic bullet theory as an explanation of how Oswald acted alone?

              Having visited the book repository in Dallas, I think it's perfectly within reason that one person who was skilled with a gun could pull it off. However, I have my own theories. There was one person who was very obssessed with both Jackie O and Marilyn Monroe and it stands to reason that, being in love with both, that person was both jealous and enraged by JFK's supposed affair...Andy Warhol did it.

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              So you are back to the avoiding answering questions game. :zzz:

              led mike

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              • R Rob Graham

                Yes. Oswald acted alone. There was no conspiracy. Learn to live with it.

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                led mike
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                So you don't require proof, you don't question, you just blindly believe any lie your republican masters tell you? Is that the definition of a Democracy, a Republic, that the founders had for our country?

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                • L led mike

                  So you are back to the avoiding answering questions game. :zzz:

                  led mike

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                  Red Stateler
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                  led mike wrote:

                  So you are back to the avoiding answering questions game.

                  How did I avoid it? I told you that I believed was a perfectly reasonable theory. Since I have no reason to disbelieve it, then I suppose I believe it. It's just not something I devote much thought to (which contradicts your theory that it's somehow all-encompasing) or care all that much about. But if you're so adamantly against the magic bullet theory, you should visit the book repository and see what a clear shot Oswald actually had.

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                    So you don't require proof, you don't question, you just blindly believe any lie your republican masters tell you? Is that the definition of a Democracy, a Republic, that the founders had for our country?

                    led mike

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                    Red Stateler
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                    led mike wrote:

                    So you don't require proof, you don't question, you just blindly believe any lie your republican masters tell you? Is that the definition of a Democracy, a Republic, that the founders had for our country?

                    Democrats were in charge of that investigation...

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      David Kentley wrote:

                      No there isn't.

                      Yes there is and denying that obvious fact will just result in more young people slaughtered in feasts of nihilistic delight.

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                      lol. got my 5

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                      • R Red Stateler

                        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        You claiming it is obvious means "It came straight out of my ass, did you not notice!?"

                        Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        You claiming it is obvious means "It came straight out of my ass, did you not notice!?"

                        Or it could just mean that I'm not so completely self-diluted with my religious beliefs (in your case, atheism) that I'll turn a blind eye to the fact that the revised separation of church and state clause arose in the 1960s, which was when these nihilistic school shootings began. If you look at the various cases, you'll notice that the common thread among them is nihilism and a resentment of others without any regard. Those two things are perfectly logical conclusions derived from atheism.

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                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        Or it could just mean that I'm not so completely self-diluted with my religious beliefs (in your case, atheism) that I'll turn a blind eye to the fact that the revised separation of church and state clause arose in the 1960s, which was when these nihilistic school shootings began. If you look at the various cases, you'll notice that the common thread among them is nihilism and a resentment of others without any regard. Those two things are perfectly logical conclusions derived from atheism.

                        That's the biggest steaming pile of BS I've ever seen you post on here. You're claiming that school shootings are correlated with the rise of athiesm (which, in itself is total crap). Regardless, now you have to explain why young high-school students who shoot people are different than other mass murderers and furthermore, not all high-school shooters have been athiests. Seeing as you are making this ridiculous claim, you apparently have "data" to back it up as well, I mean, you do speak of a correlation, right? Well I have a correlation too. I can't help but notice that the first moon landings occurred in the 1960's, so clearly, according to your "logic", the separation of church and state also got us to the moon. But I have a different idea - I can't help but notice that school shootings started in 1966 and the first moon landing was in 1969. Since that time, we have witnessed more school shootings and more moon landings - I can't help but notice a common thread there. School shootings got us to the moon and the moon landings made for more school shootings. But that makes sense because according to you athiesm creates mass murderers since 1960 even though mass murderers have existed prior to 1960 and not all mass murderers or high-school shooters have been athiests. Wow.


                        "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon

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                          To quote from one of the responses to the local newspaer editorial (lined to by the article you linked): "We put our administrators in a “no win” situation. Take pre-emptive action and you are over-reacting and stomping on individual’s rights. Take no action and something tragic happens and you will be crucified for not taking prudent precautions. Welcome to the world we now live in." Given that this happend only a few days after the VT shootings, it is understandable prudence.

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                          Chris Austin
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                          Rob Graham wrote:

                          We put our administrators in a “no win” situation.

                          Well, they took the job and all that it entails including criticism from the people who pay their salary for their actions. It was still a very stupid decision in my opinion.

                          FTA:

                          The police searched the culprit's house and found a hammer in the creator's bedroom that they confiscated as a potential weapon,

                          I just hope he gets his hammer back; he is going to need it to defend himself in the alternative education system.

                          My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                            Red Stateler wrote:

                            Or it could just mean that I'm not so completely self-diluted with my religious beliefs (in your case, atheism) that I'll turn a blind eye to the fact that the revised separation of church and state clause arose in the 1960s, which was when these nihilistic school shootings began. If you look at the various cases, you'll notice that the common thread among them is nihilism and a resentment of others without any regard. Those two things are perfectly logical conclusions derived from atheism.

                            That's the biggest steaming pile of BS I've ever seen you post on here. You're claiming that school shootings are correlated with the rise of athiesm (which, in itself is total crap). Regardless, now you have to explain why young high-school students who shoot people are different than other mass murderers and furthermore, not all high-school shooters have been athiests. Seeing as you are making this ridiculous claim, you apparently have "data" to back it up as well, I mean, you do speak of a correlation, right? Well I have a correlation too. I can't help but notice that the first moon landings occurred in the 1960's, so clearly, according to your "logic", the separation of church and state also got us to the moon. But I have a different idea - I can't help but notice that school shootings started in 1966 and the first moon landing was in 1969. Since that time, we have witnessed more school shootings and more moon landings - I can't help but notice a common thread there. School shootings got us to the moon and the moon landings made for more school shootings. But that makes sense because according to you athiesm creates mass murderers since 1960 even though mass murderers have existed prior to 1960 and not all mass murderers or high-school shooters have been athiests. Wow.


                            "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon

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                            Red Stateler
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                            It's not purely correlation, but the stated motives of the shooters as well. And atheism's influence in public schools has most certainly risen dramatically in the US since the 1960s when separation of church and state was defined.

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                              As opposed to Bush who has done a better job of covering up the fact that he lied about WMDs in Iraq because that lie didn't leave a stain on anyone's dress.

                              led mike

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                              Reagan Conservative
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                              led mike wrote:

                              As opposed to Bush who has done a better job of covering up the fact that he lied about WMDs in Iraq

                              Once again the members of the left are trying to re-write history. All those Democrats saw the same f*cking 'evidence' that Bush saw. Are they liars too? Or are they just too stupid to read for themselves? Or maybe Bush is a lot smarter than you give him credit for. Hmm, winning two elections and he's called stupid. What do you label Gore and Kerry as then. (Oh, I forgot, Bush 'stole' the first election, right?)

                              John P.

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                              • K KaRl

                                An American student who made a Counter Strike map of Clements High School has been arrested and sent to an "Alternative Education Center".[^]

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                                Lost User
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                                Ban video games! Ban guns! Ban music! Ban sharp objects! Do it for the CHILDREN!

                                There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  Shog9 wrote:

                                  For a computer game. What's next, rape charges for sketching nude pictures of classmates?

                                  What if he made a map shaped like a nude woman. Then he'd be really screwed.

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                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  What if he made a map shaped like a nude woman. Then he'd be really screwed.

                                  There are lots of nude women games for Starcraft hosted by the losers on Battle.net whenever I log on.

                                  There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                    It's not purely correlation, but the stated motives of the shooters as well. And atheism's influence in public schools has most certainly risen dramatically in the US since the 1960s when separation of church and state was defined.

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                                    Red Stateler wrote:

                                    And atheism's influence in public schools has most certainly risen dramatically in the US since the 1960s when separation of church and state was defined.

                                    So have NASA shuttle flights, trans-Atlantic transportation, the population of the earth and the internet.


                                    "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon

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                                      Rob Graham wrote:

                                      Given that this happend only a few days after the VT shootings, it is understandable prudence.

                                      It would be more prudent to arrest all those who own handguns. I agree however that it would've been prudent NOT to have made that CS map. Still nowhere near cause for an arrest. Prudently speaking that is.

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                                      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                      It would be more prudent to arrest all those who own handguns.

                                      Very good idea. If 8 kids are killed each day by guns as the Brady Campaign claims, and according to Wikipedia there are 59.1 million gun owners in the united states, every gun owner is guilty of killing .00000013536379018612521150592216582064 of a child every day.

                                      There is no heaven, there is no hell, except here on Earth. - Anton LaVey

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                                        Red Stateler wrote:

                                        And atheism's influence in public schools has most certainly risen dramatically in the US since the 1960s when separation of church and state was defined.

                                        So have NASA shuttle flights, trans-Atlantic transportation, the population of the earth and the internet.


                                        "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        73Zeppelin wrote:

                                        So have NASA shuttle flights, trans-Atlantic transportation, the population of the earth and the internet.

                                        None of those result in nihilism.

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                                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                                          So have NASA shuttle flights, trans-Atlantic transportation, the population of the earth and the internet.

                                          None of those result in nihilism.

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                                          Red Stateler wrote:

                                          None of those result in nihilism.

                                          Neither does athiesm.


                                          "The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon

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