Monday blues
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There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts. They somehow discovered programming, played around with it for a bit, and soon found themselves sitting at the compiler for hours or days on end, not even wanting to get up to go to the bathroom. Their most frequently uttered phrase is, "I'll get right to that. Just one more compile..." It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best. If programming isn't an addictive form of escapism for you (similar to drinking, drugs, playing music, etc.) that you do for fun even when you're not at work, then you should really consider getting out of this business before you ruin your life.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts.
So True!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best.
The only except to this rule is if the second type (enthusiastic programmer), is give a programming job that isn't challenging enough. That can be a career killer that makes it hard to get to work each morning. I'm unfortunately stuck in such a position where I applied as a programmer, got the great pay plus benefits (wanted this so I can build on my future). Now however I'm doing support work (not as in bug fixes but tech support aka password resets). Right now I'm covering for a tech support individual who is on mat leave and I hope it changes. I find myself reading more and more on the codeproject, looking at articles and saying... I can't wait to get home and try that! (Haven't touched a .NET complier in a LONG WHILE):sigh:
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
ow, he's toast - just like Link2006 is.
Thanks alot John, now I have to go and read up on all the Link2006 posts that I either never saw or forgot about...:sigh: -- modified at 10:40 Monday 7th May, 2007 What a loser. :laugh:
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that.'" - Tommy (Tommy Boy)
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School)CleaKO wrote:
read up on all the Link2006 posts
Right. same here
God Bless, Jason
DavidCrow wrote:
It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts.
So True!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best.
The only except to this rule is if the second type (enthusiastic programmer), is give a programming job that isn't challenging enough. That can be a career killer that makes it hard to get to work each morning. I'm unfortunately stuck in such a position where I applied as a programmer, got the great pay plus benefits (wanted this so I can build on my future). Now however I'm doing support work (not as in bug fixes but tech support aka password resets). Right now I'm covering for a tech support individual who is on mat leave and I hope it changes. I find myself reading more and more on the codeproject, looking at articles and saying... I can't wait to get home and try that! (Haven't touched a .NET complier in a LONG WHILE):sigh:
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So not only do you cheat on your wife, but you're lazy too. Are you new at this day-to-day living stuff? I'm tellin' ya Ragu, you're definitely not presenting a shining example of Indian manhood.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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God Bless, Jason
DavidCrow wrote:
It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.
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Nice! Thanks, have been checking around actually. Whats making hard to leave is the group of developers and my manager that are here are a great bunch of people to be around. Plus the employees of the company are great aswell! :-D On the other hand, we don't have an intranet or a server I can mess around with...:omg: In any case Christopher, thank you for the urls and by the way loved the book. :laugh: Got the "The Career Programmer" few months after I graduated and it was a great read! Not only useful but loved the fact it had a humor note that kept the readers interest (and me giggling like a dumb*** on transit :doh:)!
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Nice! Thanks, have been checking around actually. Whats making hard to leave is the group of developers and my manager that are here are a great bunch of people to be around. Plus the employees of the company are great aswell! :-D On the other hand, we don't have an intranet or a server I can mess around with...:omg: In any case Christopher, thank you for the urls and by the way loved the book. :laugh: Got the "The Career Programmer" few months after I graduated and it was a great read! Not only useful but loved the fact it had a humor note that kept the readers interest (and me giggling like a dumb*** on transit :doh:)!
Happy to help, and glad you enjoyed my ramblings. :)
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts. They somehow discovered programming, played around with it for a bit, and soon found themselves sitting at the compiler for hours or days on end, not even wanting to get up to go to the bathroom. Their most frequently uttered phrase is, "I'll get right to that. Just one more compile..." It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best. If programming isn't an addictive form of escapism for you (similar to drinking, drugs, playing music, etc.) that you do for fun even when you're not at work, then you should really consider getting out of this business before you ruin your life.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Wow... I have always been the second type ... with that symptom correctly applied.. But I disagree that only the first type get bored of programming....even i do get bored nowadays after 9 years of doing this ....since at times i feel that its the same thing ( just one more compile...) that happens to me again and again and again.............and goes on.... but to touch even this high-tech high-level boredom I should have a challenging programming job on hand :) ....atleast tat keeps me interested for a while writing any challenging and complex program makes you feel like God....and this illusion is temporary and fades off with time....until you get a next challenging task to make u feel the same way again... No offence meant...I think Chris is talking about the similar illusion....and we programmers need to be in that to be in the business.... ofcouse programming is as addictive as drugs....only when u leave it, you will find that there r better things in life :) ... but fortunately I got out of it (the addiction , not programming )... and i strongly suggest that second type must always be temporary to give you the best experience
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brianwelsch wrote:
I'd also bet, if I was that sort of fellow, that you've forged your way in career(s) doing things you enjoy, even on Mondays.
Because I refuse to grow up, it's the only kind of careers I'm interested in. :-D
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
neener, neener, neener... :jig: Not a bad way to be. It's preferrable, actually. Especially if you can pay the bills that way.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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leckey wrote:
How about sucking it up, or l
Hey, he's a guy + also not a g*y.:rolleyes:
:beer:
Obviously, you're not familiar with the idiom. A hint: It has nothing to do with gender, sex or sexual preference.
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neener, neener, neener... :jig: Not a bad way to be. It's preferrable, actually. Especially if you can pay the bills that way.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart:laugh:
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
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Wow... I have always been the second type ... with that symptom correctly applied.. But I disagree that only the first type get bored of programming....even i do get bored nowadays after 9 years of doing this ....since at times i feel that its the same thing ( just one more compile...) that happens to me again and again and again.............and goes on.... but to touch even this high-tech high-level boredom I should have a challenging programming job on hand :) ....atleast tat keeps me interested for a while writing any challenging and complex program makes you feel like God....and this illusion is temporary and fades off with time....until you get a next challenging task to make u feel the same way again... No offence meant...I think Chris is talking about the similar illusion....and we programmers need to be in that to be in the business.... ofcouse programming is as addictive as drugs....only when u leave it, you will find that there r better things in life :) ... but fortunately I got out of it (the addiction , not programming )... and i strongly suggest that second type must always be temporary to give you the best experience
Anup Shinde wrote:
until you get a next challenging task to make u feel the same way again...
two letters.... R & D! :-D:-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Yeah, that's awesome advice! I'd give it a go, but I don't like coffee, nor am I allowed.
By Ravel: and then the whining school-boy, with his satchel and shining morning face, creeping like snail unwillingly to school.
Ravel Joyce wrote:
I don't like coffee
Same here. Can't stand the stuff. To get it anywhere near drinkable I have to put in about 50% sugar.
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There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts. They somehow discovered programming, played around with it for a bit, and soon found themselves sitting at the compiler for hours or days on end, not even wanting to get up to go to the bathroom. Their most frequently uttered phrase is, "I'll get right to that. Just one more compile..." It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best. If programming isn't an addictive form of escapism for you (similar to drinking, drugs, playing music, etc.) that you do for fun even when you're not at work, then you should really consider getting out of this business before you ruin your life.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
are addicts.
Hello, my name is ... I am a programmer. :laugh: Of course on the serious side, this reminds me of how my brother and I both got into the computer industry. I was set for a nice career in Astronomy, with a minor in math, until a friend got a computer and wanted someone to teach him how to use it. He didn't learn well from books, I did, so I learned and taught him. I was hooked from that year forward, no question about it. My brother did an analysis of various fields based on training vs. annual income and decided that the best balance of time spent in school vs. money to make after school was with Engineering careers. After a nearly failed first year of mechanical engeering (1st year students are asked to either build a bridge out of straws that can support a person, or a rat-trap powered racer that can travel 100 feet in 6 minutes max), he decided computer software was the way to go because it was so "easy" for me. He hated it, but ended up in a middle ground in computer engineering rather than software. But he is still miserable. What he liked was never an issue, it was what he could stomach long enough to earn the money he likes. I love my job, I love R&D, new things every year. I'm as addicted as I was 25 years ago, perhaps even more so: programming must be a tolerance drug.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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You need to find a line of work where you wake up Monday morning and say "yay! The weekend is over, I can get back to what I really love doing!!!" Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts. They somehow discovered programming, played around with it for a bit, and soon found themselves sitting at the compiler for hours or days on end, not even wanting to get up to go to the bathroom. Their most frequently uttered phrase is, "I'll get right to that. Just one more compile..." It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best. If programming isn't an addictive form of escapism for you (similar to drinking, drugs, playing music, etc.) that you do for fun even when you're not at work, then you should really consider getting out of this business before you ruin your life.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
...and some of us are programming addicts AND play music for escape! :)
"Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder
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There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts. They somehow discovered programming, played around with it for a bit, and soon found themselves sitting at the compiler for hours or days on end, not even wanting to get up to go to the bathroom. Their most frequently uttered phrase is, "I'll get right to that. Just one more compile..." It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best. If programming isn't an addictive form of escapism for you (similar to drinking, drugs, playing music, etc.) that you do for fun even when you're not at work, then you should really consider getting out of this business before you ruin your life.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Hahahahaha... ain't that the truth. I originaly majored in music, then changed it to math. As part of the math cirriculum I had to program. Once I started I couldn't stop. The rest of my class schedule suffered because of it. Pretty soon I wouldn't even go to class I'd just stay at home programming. I never did finish school. I ran out of money to pay for it, had to go back to work with the intention of returning to get the degree, but then a friend found out I programmed and talked me into turning in a resume. She had to bug me for 6 months because I thought I needed to finish school first. Finally I caved in and got the job. Never looked back since. Still meaning to go back and get that degree, but then it'd take away from programming. heh.
This statement was never false.
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Hi Its Monday today. After spending two days going around and enjoying.. I did not want to come to office today. I am not able to cope to the change. I am feeling depressed today and do not want to speak to anyone around. And its 4 O clock in the afternoon. Is it monday blues. How to enlighten own mood? Nothing is working today.? Not able to concentrate on work just spending time on Net. My Team leader is going to give me hard time at 6 O clock when he will ask me the status. This happens to me every Monday. regards Naga
nagaraju
Thanks Buzzkill Betty. Be sure and let us know if things get worse ...
"Posting a VB.NET question in the C++ forum will end in tears." Chris Maunder
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So not only do you cheat on your wife, but you're lazy too. Are you new at this day-to-day living stuff? I'm tellin' ya Ragu, you're definitely not presenting a shining example of Indian manhood.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
So not only do you cheat on your wife, but you're lazy too. Are you new at this day-to-day living stuff? I'm tellin' ya Ragu, you're definitely not presenting a shining example of Indian manhood.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
There are, essentially, two kinds of programmers. The first type went to college and chose software development because they thought it would be a good way to make a living. The second type, whether they went to school or learned on their own, are addicts. They somehow discovered programming, played around with it for a bit, and soon found themselves sitting at the compiler for hours or days on end, not even wanting to get up to go to the bathroom. Their most frequently uttered phrase is, "I'll get right to that. Just one more compile..." It's been my experience that after a few years years, the first type is almost always miserable at worst, dulled, lifeless and unhappy at best. If programming isn't an addictive form of escapism for you (similar to drinking, drugs, playing music, etc.) that you do for fun even when you're not at work, then you should really consider getting out of this business before you ruin your life.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
I'm not addicted. I can stop anytime I want. As soon as this compile is done. OK, As soon as the compile issue is fixed. OK, as soon as the compile issue is fixed, the unit test works, and I've finished that nifty UI thing. Maybe 1 more minor version update and then I'm outta here. Not addicted. Don't know what you're talking about.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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