Dont let your infants watch tv!

Marcus J Smith

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

Well, I have a 2 and 4 year old and we let them watch things like Blue's Clues, Dora, and programing of an educational manner.

According to the article it says up until 2 you shouldnt let the child watch TV so I guess you are now past that. The reason I posted this is because a lot of people use the TV, candy, toys from the store, etc to just make their kids stay quiet and to not bother them.

CleaKO

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Xiangyang Liu

CleaKO wrote:

" ... Much more research needs to be done in these areas, though, before we have a crystal-clear picture of these effects."

No, you don't need more research. What you need is a HD TV to get crystal-clear pictures. :-D

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John Cardinal wrote:

Whenever you see or hear or read the red flag phrase "Much more research needs to be done..." you can be confident it's bullsh*t not worth the time it takes to read or listen to it.

Even so, many times it just causes people to think about what they are doing and what the outcomes might be. I heard but dont remember of a publication that actually works to inform people of the experiments that failed to prove a theory which in a way is what you are talking about. You never hear about how they tried to prove it and they couldnt you only hear that they were able to prove it. If you know what that publication is I would like to know.

CleaKO

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Xiangyang Liu

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

I have a 2 and 4 year old and we let them watch things like Blue's Clues

That's harmless, but they will quickly grow up to Pokemon, then to Dragon Ball Z, then to everything on YouTube.com. By that time, they won't be able to hear anything you say. :(

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lost in transition

Wrong. My responsibility of raising my children does not stop when they reach the age 8, 10, 16 or what ever. I am their father and I will be there to share knowledge and wisdom with them long after the leave my house.

God Bless, Jason

DavidCrow wrote:

It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.

Albert Dadze

Xiangyang Liu wrote:

No, you don't need more research. What you need is a HD TV to get crystal-clear pictures.

:| Believe me the man has a point, much more research has to be done, most of these researchers based whatever they find on theories and pre-calculated assumptions.

AlbertDadze

Colin Angus Mackay

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

and we pray before we eat

What if your kid concludes that there is no god, would you let them sit out the prayer? Or would they be disciplined?

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lost in transition

CleaKO wrote:

you are now past that.

Nope last one is in the oven, be out in a month or so.

God Bless, Jason

DavidCrow wrote:

It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.

Xiangyang Liu

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

My responsibility of raising my children does not stop when they reach the age 8, 10, 16 or what ever. I am their father and I will be there to share knowledge and wisdom with them long after the leave my house.

Good luck.

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lost in transition

Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

What if your kid concludes that there is no god

If there was no God, then my children would not be here today. At least that is what modern medical science told me after a four wheeler wreck I had about 6 years ago.

Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

would they be disciplined?

No, I grew up in a home that believes in God, for clarity of 'God' I am a Christian. When I left that house, I left every teaching that was given to me and lived my life the way I saw fit. My parents did not disown me or hate me but they just continued to love me. After some long hard years, I reverted back to the teachings of my parents and it is just amazing to me to look back and see what God has done in my life. Now everyone here knows my stance, you can like it or not but I will not change.

God Bless, Jason

DavidCrow wrote:

It would not affect me or my family one iota. My wife and I are in charge of when the tv is on, and what it displays. I do not need any external input for that.

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CleaKO wrote:

Even so, many times it just causes people to think about what they are doing and what the outcomes might be.

More often than not it leaves people in a state of greater ignorance than they were previously. Not a good thing.

CleaKO wrote:

You never hear about how they tried to prove it and they couldnt you only hear that they were able to prove it.

There are no "proven" theories, nothing is proven. Ever.

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Colin Angus Mackay

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

When I left that house, I left every teaching that was given to me and lived my life the way I saw fit. My parents did not disown me or hate me but they just continued to love me.

Since you don't say it directly, I can only assume that you are implying that you would do the same for your children. And that's fine. I don't like the idea of parents defining a path for their children. I feel it is up to the child to find their own path, even if it isn't the one the parents hoped for.

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

Now everyone here knows my stance, you can like it or not but I will not change.

Your stance is your choice and I respect that. So long as that stance does not impact on the freedom of others to choose their own stance then great.

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

If there was no God, then my children would not be here today. At least that is what modern medical science told me after a four wheeler wreck I had about 6 years ago.

I have to take that statement with some skeptisism. I would personally put it down to either the injuries not being as bad as first thought, or that the doctors did a better job than they expected to be able to do. To me, these are more rational explanations. But, that's just my stance. I don't claim to be right or wrong.

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tgrt

Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

I don't like the idea of parents defining a path for their children. I feel it is up to the child to find their own path, even if it isn't the one the parents hoped for.

I disagree wholeheartedly. It is the parents' obligation to teach their kids about the right path and make sure that they follow that path while they're children. After their adults it's their choice.

Marc Clifton

CleaKO wrote:

I know when I have children I plan to prevent them from watching TV but I know that has to be hard because of daycares and other households that use it as a way to keep the child occupied. What do you guys do and what do you think?

Regarding the research, all I can say is "duh". Regarding daycares--go find a nice Waldorf Kindergarten. Regarding other households--well, don't go to crazy about it. Marc

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Joe Woodbury

To bad actual science isn't used for crap like this. The notion that a TV or a DVD is some bugaboo is utter nonsense. Every year or so, someone makes up a bunch of "facts" because they don't like television. (Incidentally, self-reported observational studies are among the worse and most useless. They almost always end up reinforcing the conclusions of the people running the study and nothing more.) Contrary to the core claims, NO valid scientific studies suggest ANYTHING like these people are claiming. This is nothing more than scare mongering by a bunch of idiots who need to justify their existence. (EDIT: As an FYI, my kids actually didn't watch much television as infants. They weren't that interested. Oddly, none of them liked Sesame Street and most "child" programming. Now that my oldest is out of the house and youngest is 11, I can say with confidence that being in the same room as children watching Digimon, Dragonball-Z and Pokemon will drive you insane.)

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Colin Angus Mackay

tgrt wrote:

I disagree wholeheartedly.

No, you don't. Your final sentence "After their adults it's their choice" shows that it isn't a "wholehearted" disagreement. Once your child is an adult, they are still your child. They are just no longer a minor.

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Patrick Etc

CleaKO wrote:

Even so, many times it just causes people to think about what they are doing and what the outcomes might be.

In my experience, no it doesn't. Experiences that should end up "making you think" almost never do. People are too busy to be bothered with trivialities like what's best for your kids. We have bills to pay and vacations to plan, after all. If you can't tell, I'm just a little bitter. I have still found no reliable way to "encourage" people to stop even for a second and figure something out that will have a lasting effect on them. The few times I thought I succeeded, they just reverted straight back to the previous behavior. I'm starting to think it's a design flaw.

Cheers, Patrick