Thoroughly Impressed With Canon
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN!
Wow, how many of them are alive, by the way? :-D
bigboy wrote:
how many of them are alive, by the way?
Two. And neither of them are Al Gore.
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Paul Watson wrote:
They shifted their call center from India to Mexico huh?
Did we finally annex Mexico, then? :~
BW
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-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
Did we finally annex Mexico, then?
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too. Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world. (Like I am a South African and an African.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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brianwelsch wrote:
Did we finally annex Mexico, then?
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too. Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world. (Like I am a South African and an African.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Last time I looked Canada was a part of North America as well. ;) See you can't win and there is no other easy to say phrase or word that describes a US citizen.
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It is even worse for Canadian's as they get lumped under the US American banner too often. Easy to confuse Canadians for USAians. People don't confuse Brazilians for "Americans."
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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brianwelsch wrote:
Did we finally annex Mexico, then?
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too. Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world. (Like I am a South African and an African.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
yeah, I knew what you getting at. It comes up here once in a while that Americans are really everyone in the western hemisphere. The thing is there isn't another word that rolls off the tongue that can be used. US Americans, I suppose, but usually the context of a statement makes the clarification unnecessary. If the USA had been named Elbonia instead, I'm certain we wouldn't refer to ourselves as Americans to stake a claim that we are the true (and only important) Americans. I say that just to point out that hijacking the term has a connotation that think is invalid. I think it's more an evolution of language than any intentional snub at our continent-mates. Out of curiosity, do non-US Americans refer to themselves as Americans typically, or is it more standard to say Panamanian, Canadian, Brazilian, etc...?
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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brianwelsch wrote:
Did we finally annex Mexico, then?
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too. Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world. (Like I am a South African and an African.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Paul Watson wrote:
Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world.
One of the ironies is how to recognize one. There are all kind of reports and suggestions and hints for various agencies. But how I comb/cut my hair, whether or not I stutter, and what I am driving (how clean the car is for example) all determine whether or not I get stopped and questioned. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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brianwelsch wrote:
Did we finally annex Mexico, then?
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too. Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world. (Like I am a South African and an African.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Paul Watson wrote:
Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world.
...and has been for more than a century. Get over it. ;)
Paul Watson wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too.
Paul Watson wrote:
(Like I am a South African and an African.)
Except there are 2 continents that have the word "America" so it's much more common to refer to residents as North American or South American. Combine that with the fact that the USA and American Samoa are the only 2 countries with the word "America" in their names (the latter is an unincorporated territory of the former) and our "hijacking" of the term "American" seems logical. Yes?
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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For anyone that saw my post yesterday about our now dead Canon Powershot S1, I have an update. I called their customer service folks this morning and not only will they fix the camera, but they pay for shipping - both ways! I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN! This is by far the best customer service experience I've had in a long, long time. Canon has won a permanent customer.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
a real live AMERICAN
I worked very hard on that AI, glad you were impressed. ;)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Paul Watson wrote:
Being an American has been hijacked by the USA and reinforced by the rest of the world.
...and has been for more than a century. Get over it. ;)
Paul Watson wrote:
I was thinking more along the lines of Mexicans, Brazilians, Chillians, Colombians etc. all being Americans too.
Paul Watson wrote:
(Like I am a South African and an African.)
Except there are 2 continents that have the word "America" so it's much more common to refer to residents as North American or South American. Combine that with the fact that the USA and American Samoa are the only 2 countries with the word "America" in their names (the latter is an unincorporated territory of the former) and our "hijacking" of the term "American" seems logical. Yes?
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Woah, chill out, Yankee. :P
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Woah, chill out, Yankee. :P
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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For anyone that saw my post yesterday about our now dead Canon Powershot S1, I have an update. I called their customer service folks this morning and not only will they fix the camera, but they pay for shipping - both ways! I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN! This is by far the best customer service experience I've had in a long, long time. Canon has won a permanent customer.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN!
They're getting good at the accent schools...:rolleyes:
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yeah, I knew what you getting at. It comes up here once in a while that Americans are really everyone in the western hemisphere. The thing is there isn't another word that rolls off the tongue that can be used. US Americans, I suppose, but usually the context of a statement makes the clarification unnecessary. If the USA had been named Elbonia instead, I'm certain we wouldn't refer to ourselves as Americans to stake a claim that we are the true (and only important) Americans. I say that just to point out that hijacking the term has a connotation that think is invalid. I think it's more an evolution of language than any intentional snub at our continent-mates. Out of curiosity, do non-US Americans refer to themselves as Americans typically, or is it more standard to say Panamanian, Canadian, Brazilian, etc...?
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
yeah, I knew what you getting at. It comes up here once in a while that Americans are really everyone in the western hemisphere. The thing is there isn't another word that rolls off the tongue that can be used. US Americans, I suppose, but usually the context of a statement makes the clarification unnecessary. If the USA had been named Elbonia instead, I'm certain we wouldn't refer to ourselves as Americans to stake a claim that we are the true (and only important) Americans. I say that just to point out that hijacking the term has a connotation that think is invalid. I think it's more an evolution of language than any intentional snub at our continent-mates.
Yes, I agree.
brianwelsch wrote:
is it more standard to say Panamanian, Canadian, Brazilian, etc...?
Yep, and they don't have a problem labeling Americans "Americanos". :-)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Canon has won a permanent customer.
Nothing in this world is permanent anymore. :sigh: Marc
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For anyone that saw my post yesterday about our now dead Canon Powershot S1, I have an update. I called their customer service folks this morning and not only will they fix the camera, but they pay for shipping - both ways! I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN! This is by far the best customer service experience I've had in a long, long time. Canon has won a permanent customer.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
For anyone that saw my post yesterday about our now dead Canon Powershot S1, I have an update. I called their customer service folks this morning and not only will they fix the camera, but they pay for shipping - both ways! I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN! This is by far the best customer service experience I've had in a long, long time. Canon has won a permanent customer.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Gateway computers customer service is 100% North American based for North American customers. (US customers may get US or Canada and that's the same for Canadians. Mexico has it's own CS.) But I'm glad about your great Canon experience. I invested in a Minolta system and now they are pretty much kaput.
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For anyone that saw my post yesterday about our now dead Canon Powershot S1, I have an update. I called their customer service folks this morning and not only will they fix the camera, but they pay for shipping - both ways! I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN! This is by far the best customer service experience I've had in a long, long time. Canon has won a permanent customer.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I've talked to real live Americans on the phone before in another job. I spoke to suppliers all over the U.S. and some states have truly incomprehensible accents, I'd rather deal with someone in Bangalore than South Carolina. :)
"110%" - it's the new 70%
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Paul Watson wrote:
They shifted their call center from India to Mexico huh?
Did we finally annex Mexico, then? :~
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
Did we finally annex Mexico, then?
Err ... I think that happened in 1848. :rolleyes: Mexican-American_War[^] Well about half of Mexico. :~ Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo[^] The half north of the Rio Grande. :doh:
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For anyone that saw my post yesterday about our now dead Canon Powershot S1, I have an update. I called their customer service folks this morning and not only will they fix the camera, but they pay for shipping - both ways! I even got to talk to a real live AMERICAN! This is by far the best customer service experience I've had in a long, long time. Canon has won a permanent customer.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Canon has won a permanent customer.
Even if they eventually outsource? ;-P
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Last time I looked Canada was a part of North America as well. ;) See you can't win and there is no other easy to say phrase or word that describes a US citizen.
"110%" - it's the new 70%
