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    Vikram A Punathambekar
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    So my manager and I step out of our seats for a knowledge transfer session. A few minutes later, he sees (our conference rooms have glass doors and walls) a couple of people hanging around his PC and goes to investigate. Turns out they are from helpdesk and wanted to check if people have installed some patches, so they logged him off forcibly. And they had done the same thing to my machine. :wtf: They could have gone to the other 100 people in the same floor and got on with their checking, and then come back to see if the people not at their desks were really on leave or simply stepped out for a meeting or tea. No, they just had to log off. X| :mad:

    Cheers, Vıkram.


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    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

      So my manager and I step out of our seats for a knowledge transfer session. A few minutes later, he sees (our conference rooms have glass doors and walls) a couple of people hanging around his PC and goes to investigate. Turns out they are from helpdesk and wanted to check if people have installed some patches, so they logged him off forcibly. And they had done the same thing to my machine. :wtf: They could have gone to the other 100 people in the same floor and got on with their checking, and then come back to see if the people not at their desks were really on leave or simply stepped out for a meeting or tea. No, they just had to log off. X| :mad:

      Cheers, Vıkram.


      Déjà moo - The feeling that you've seen this bull before. Join the CP group at NationStates. Password: byalmightybob

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      Lost User
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      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

      a knowledge transfer session.

      :confused: Vulcan mind meld?

      "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

        So my manager and I step out of our seats for a knowledge transfer session. A few minutes later, he sees (our conference rooms have glass doors and walls) a couple of people hanging around his PC and goes to investigate. Turns out they are from helpdesk and wanted to check if people have installed some patches, so they logged him off forcibly. And they had done the same thing to my machine. :wtf: They could have gone to the other 100 people in the same floor and got on with their checking, and then come back to see if the people not at their desks were really on leave or simply stepped out for a meeting or tea. No, they just had to log off. X| :mad:

        Cheers, Vıkram.


        Déjà moo - The feeling that you've seen this bull before. Join the CP group at NationStates. Password: byalmightybob

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        Our IT department likes to remotely control our machines to do stuff. I was helping another programmer out with a programming problem, and we were mousing around iin a couple of files when all of a sudden, the mouse moved on it's own to log him out, and then a sys admin logged in and started doing things on the system. No message - no phone call - nothing. they just took control. Talk about pissed off... Our boss went down to IT and read them the riot act, and then wrote a nasty email to their boss. It never happened again.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

          So my manager and I step out of our seats for a knowledge transfer session. A few minutes later, he sees (our conference rooms have glass doors and walls) a couple of people hanging around his PC and goes to investigate. Turns out they are from helpdesk and wanted to check if people have installed some patches, so they logged him off forcibly. And they had done the same thing to my machine. :wtf: They could have gone to the other 100 people in the same floor and got on with their checking, and then come back to see if the people not at their desks were really on leave or simply stepped out for a meeting or tea. No, they just had to log off. X| :mad:

          Cheers, Vıkram.


          Déjà moo - The feeling that you've seen this bull before. Join the CP group at NationStates. Password: byalmightybob

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          Hans Dietrich
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          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

          No, they just had to log off.

          You're lucky. I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out". Two infractions and you're history. :(

          Best wishes, Hans


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            Our IT department likes to remotely control our machines to do stuff. I was helping another programmer out with a programming problem, and we were mousing around iin a couple of files when all of a sudden, the mouse moved on it's own to log him out, and then a sys admin logged in and started doing things on the system. No message - no phone call - nothing. they just took control. Talk about pissed off... Our boss went down to IT and read them the riot act, and then wrote a nasty email to their boss. It never happened again.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Dan Neely
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            My main defense to that is that citrix can't access my 2nd monitor. Guess where my start bar is. More than once after a support request I've seen the XXX is remote accessing your system messagebox followed by a mouse cursor futilely bouncing of the bottom of the screen trying to unhide the taskbar. 30 seconds or a minute later my phone rings. :laugh:

            -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              No, they just had to log off.

              You're lucky. I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out". Two infractions and you're history. :(

              Best wishes, Hans


              [CodeProject Forum Guidelines] [How To Ask A Question] [My Articles]

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              Marcus J Smith
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              Hans Dietrich wrote:

              I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out".

              :wtf: Wow I can understand logging off at the end of the day, locking the computer when stepping away, but to logoff just because you arent at the PC is a little overkill.


              CleaKO

              "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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              • H Hans Dietrich

                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                No, they just had to log off.

                You're lucky. I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out". Two infractions and you're history. :(

                Best wishes, Hans


                [CodeProject Forum Guidelines] [How To Ask A Question] [My Articles]

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                NormDroid
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                Hans Dietrich wrote:

                Two infractions and you're history.

                Harsh:omg:

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                  My main defense to that is that citrix can't access my 2nd monitor. Guess where my start bar is. More than once after a support request I've seen the XXX is remote accessing your system messagebox followed by a mouse cursor futilely bouncing of the bottom of the screen trying to unhide the taskbar. 30 seconds or a minute later my phone rings. :laugh:

                  -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                  Marcus J Smith
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                  When you logon remotely can you get the taskbar?


                  CleaKO

                  "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                  • H Hans Dietrich

                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                    No, they just had to log off.

                    You're lucky. I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out". Two infractions and you're history. :(

                    Best wishes, Hans


                    [CodeProject Forum Guidelines] [How To Ask A Question] [My Articles]

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                    Jim Crafton
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                    I've heard rumors at work that we are moving towards something like that. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. :(

                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                    • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                      So my manager and I step out of our seats for a knowledge transfer session. A few minutes later, he sees (our conference rooms have glass doors and walls) a couple of people hanging around his PC and goes to investigate. Turns out they are from helpdesk and wanted to check if people have installed some patches, so they logged him off forcibly. And they had done the same thing to my machine. :wtf: They could have gone to the other 100 people in the same floor and got on with their checking, and then come back to see if the people not at their desks were really on leave or simply stepped out for a meeting or tea. No, they just had to log off. X| :mad:

                      Cheers, Vıkram.


                      Déjà moo - The feeling that you've seen this bull before. Join the CP group at NationStates. Password: byalmightybob

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                      Antony M Kancidrowski
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                      Hopefully you didn't loose anything that you were working on! People just logging you off without the common decency to ask is just plain ignorant (no matter who they are in the company). My 0.02

                      Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                      I'm coloured, yet clear.
                      I'm fruity and sweet.
                      I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
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                      • M Marcus J Smith

                        Hans Dietrich wrote:

                        I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out".

                        :wtf: Wow I can understand logging off at the end of the day, locking the computer when stepping away, but to logoff just because you arent at the PC is a little overkill.


                        CleaKO

                        "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                        El Corazon
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                        CleaKO wrote:

                        Wow I can understand logging off at the end of the day, locking the computer when stepping away, but to logoff just because you arent at the PC is a little overkill.

                        perhaps, but issues such as being able to send emails as someone else, or grab company sensitive materials (nothing major, but many small things add up). If one were to grab project notes, or project cost projections for each project from individuals, you pretty much have the company's budget even though the company's budget is restricted information. Thus the desire to keep even individual computers logged off if you step away. True, it is a bit overkill, but the issue is real.

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          I've heard rumors at work that we are moving towards something like that. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. :(

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                          Hans Dietrich
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                          Look at it this way: would you walk away from your desk and leave your wallet on your desk? That's what the company thinks you are doing. :)

                          Best wishes, Hans


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                          • H Hans Dietrich

                            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                            No, they just had to log off.

                            You're lucky. I've worked for some clients who had a policy of "log off before you step out". Two infractions and you're history. :(

                            Best wishes, Hans


                            [CodeProject Forum Guidelines] [How To Ask A Question] [My Articles]

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                            David Crow
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                            Hans Dietrich wrote:

                            ...a policy of "log off before you step out".

                            How would that be any different than just locking the PC? A password is required in either case.


                            "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                            "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            • H Hans Dietrich

                              Look at it this way: would you walk away from your desk and leave your wallet on your desk? That's what the company thinks you are doing. :)

                              Best wishes, Hans


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                              zoid
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                              I do that all the time, I trust my co-workers. I guess it depends on where you work though.

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                              • M Marcus J Smith

                                When you logon remotely can you get the taskbar?


                                CleaKO

                                "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                Dan Neely
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                                via citrix nothing on the 2nd monitor is accessible. There might be a voodoo way to conjure it over but none of the techs who've connected to my laptop have known it. Depending on experiance they either call and say "WTF!", or some variant of "You're running 2 monitors aren't you".

                                -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                • A Antony M Kancidrowski

                                  Hopefully you didn't loose anything that you were working on! People just logging you off without the common decency to ask is just plain ignorant (no matter who they are in the company). My 0.02

                                  Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                                  I'm coloured, yet clear.
                                  I'm fruity and sweet.
                                  I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                                  - David Walliams (Little Britain)

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                                  StevenWalsh
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                                  Last time i walked away from my desk without locking it, i ended buying lunch for my entire team....

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                                  • D David Crow

                                    Hans Dietrich wrote:

                                    ...a policy of "log off before you step out".

                                    How would that be any different than just locking the PC? A password is required in either case.


                                    "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                                    "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Hey David, I read a blog yesterday where a MSFT blogger mentioned how a David Crow was joining Microsoft as an Evangelist. Would that be you by any chance? The reason i think it could be you is that the guy mentioned how this David Crow was a very active community contributor.

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                    • E El Corazon

                                      CleaKO wrote:

                                      Wow I can understand logging off at the end of the day, locking the computer when stepping away, but to logoff just because you arent at the PC is a little overkill.

                                      perhaps, but issues such as being able to send emails as someone else, or grab company sensitive materials (nothing major, but many small things add up). If one were to grab project notes, or project cost projections for each project from individuals, you pretty much have the company's budget even though the company's budget is restricted information. Thus the desire to keep even individual computers logged off if you step away. True, it is a bit overkill, but the issue is real.

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      Marcus J Smith
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                                      El Corazon wrote:

                                      perhaps, but issues such as being able to send emails as someone else, or grab company sensitive materials (nothing major, but many small things add up). If one were to grab project notes, or project cost projections for each project from individuals, you pretty much have the company's budget even though the company's budget is restricted information. Thus the desire to keep even individual computers logged off if you step away. True, it is a bit overkill, but the issue is real.

                                      How does logging off have any more security than locking the machine?


                                      CleaKO

                                      "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                        via citrix nothing on the 2nd monitor is accessible. There might be a voodoo way to conjure it over but none of the techs who've connected to my laptop have known it. Depending on experiance they either call and say "WTF!", or some variant of "You're running 2 monitors aren't you".

                                        -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                        Marcus J Smith
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                                        It seems to me that all you would have to do is right click on the desktop and change the primary monitor and or the extended toolbar options.


                                        CleaKO

                                        "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                        • M Marcus J Smith

                                          El Corazon wrote:

                                          perhaps, but issues such as being able to send emails as someone else, or grab company sensitive materials (nothing major, but many small things add up). If one were to grab project notes, or project cost projections for each project from individuals, you pretty much have the company's budget even though the company's budget is restricted information. Thus the desire to keep even individual computers logged off if you step away. True, it is a bit overkill, but the issue is real.

                                          How does logging off have any more security than locking the machine?


                                          CleaKO

                                          "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                          leckey 0
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                                          You'd be surprised how many idiots keep their passwords in plain view, or hidden under the mousepad.

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