HDTVs and all that malarky
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
Paul Watson wrote:
the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
1300 is 30% better than 1000. the color he's referring to is the color of your money.
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
Paul Watson wrote:
* the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
he probably meant 30% better contrast ratio. Lower contrast ratios do result in poorer quality colors since your whitest white and blackest black have less of a difference between them.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
Paul Watson wrote:
plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV.
Good way to give your new TV a virus. You never know where all that free air has been, heaven only knows what it's carrying.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
The Bravias, like most flat panel tvs have analogue/digitial tuners so you can use either transmission - we have several at work. A good DVD player with HDMI output will scale up nicely and the progressive output will be smoother than 567 interlaced. Forget all the HDDVD stuff for a few years. Elaine (progressive fluffy tigress)
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
The only issue with upscaling is whether it's done on the DVD player or in the TV itself. It still has to happen in order to fill the screen. If you're taking a separate audio feed from the DVD player, rather than putting the audio through the TV, you might notice a slight delay between the pictures and the audio because of the small but finite time it takes to do the upscaling - if the scaler is in the DVD player, it should resync the picture and audio to avoid this problem, but the TV wouldn't be able to do so. There is of course the other issue that a standard DVD player without upscaler will be pumping analogue RGB signals down a SCART cable rather than digital signals. However, again, this isn't as important as made out - I'm currently typing this on a machine running Windows Vista connected to a 19" LCD at 1280x1024 using a standard 4' VGA cable and there's no ghosting at all. ClearType is on and perfectly readable. It's not noticeably different from the DVI connection, to the same monitor, from my laptop running XP. Both the S and V models have a single built-in DVB-T (FreeView) digital tuner. It also looks like they support classic analogue PAL broadcasts.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
I have a Sony Bravia 32" and a Sony DVD with HDMI output. Very happy indeed. Of course, I got them both dirt cheap as my wife used to work for Sony UK, but I won't depress you by telling you how much they cost... :) The Bravia comes with built-in Freeview and an analogue tuner. It only has one HDMI input though (mine is a year old, so check yours, as this may of changed) so if you ever want to hook up more than one HDMI device (console, Sky HD, etc.) you'd need a splitter, which is more cost. BTW, HDMI cables are very pricey and the DVD player won't come with one. Shop around. I have Sky HD too FWIW. The BBC HD picture is stunning (as are the various HD discovery channels), but there is still a lack of content, which is a shame. Sky are showing the latest US shows in HD (24, Lost, BSG, etc.) but they don't use as much bandwidth for their HD channels. I was disappointed to find that the new series of Doctor Who is SD - especially seeing as Torchwood was filmed in HD (and looks amazing).
Kicking squealing Gucci little piggy.
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
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So we are moving into a new place and I need to buy a TV and DVD player. I've had a look around the local shops and the best bets are the Sony Bravia S and V series 32" HDTVs (720, not 1080.) A touch more expensive than some of the equivalent Samsung and Toshiba TVs but side by side the Sony was looking better in the store and Sony has that fit and finish the others don't. I buy Apple so you know silly things like that make me happy :) Right now it is a toss up between the Sony 32v at €1299 or the Sony 32s at €999. The v series has better colour apparently* but I can't find much more about the differences. One review I read though did say the v series handled standard-def sources better than the s series. Didn't see much confirmation of this but it is important as 99% of my sources are standard-def. I'm only buying HD now so that in a year or two I don't regret buying the standard-def TV. Right? The other thing is a DVD player and a standard Sony seems fine but with this fancy upscaling HDMI output dongle doo dab whatsamacallit. That worried me at first, sounds like a great source of artifacts but everything I am reading online says it is fine and better than taking standard output from a DVD into an HDTV. Obviously the marketing hype that it turns DVD into HDDVD is daft as a rubber chicken crossing a road but at least it doesn't seem to hurt. One last question; Can I plug a normal analog aerial into these things? For the first week I won't have the satellite box setup so it will be plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV. Any other advice before I go buy this thing tomorrow? (Couple things: 32" is as big as I need. Rear projector and Plasma sound nice but I want to keep this simple and LCD seems to do that. I'm not going to buy online or hunt for 1% off deals or ship it in from Japan or anything; Local, store bought, back of my car is fine thanks. The Sony's have two HDMI inputs and I doubt I'll be using both for a long while.) * the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside wher
If you really want a good Sony TV, go for the W2000-series. Lots of bang for the buck! The newer Samsung M8x series aren't too shabby either. :)
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The only issue with upscaling is whether it's done on the DVD player or in the TV itself. It still has to happen in order to fill the screen. If you're taking a separate audio feed from the DVD player, rather than putting the audio through the TV, you might notice a slight delay between the pictures and the audio because of the small but finite time it takes to do the upscaling - if the scaler is in the DVD player, it should resync the picture and audio to avoid this problem, but the TV wouldn't be able to do so. There is of course the other issue that a standard DVD player without upscaler will be pumping analogue RGB signals down a SCART cable rather than digital signals. However, again, this isn't as important as made out - I'm currently typing this on a machine running Windows Vista connected to a 19" LCD at 1280x1024 using a standard 4' VGA cable and there's no ghosting at all. ClearType is on and perfectly readable. It's not noticeably different from the DVI connection, to the same monitor, from my laptop running XP. Both the S and V models have a single built-in DVB-T (FreeView) digital tuner. It also looks like they support classic analogue PAL broadcasts.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
Mike Dimmick wrote:
I'm currently typing this on a machine running Windows Vista connected to a 19" LCD at 1280x1024 using a standard 4' VGA cable and there's no ghosting at all. ClearType is on and perfectly readable. It's not noticeably different from the DVI connection, to the same monitor, from my laptop running XP.
If I switch from DVI to VGA on my Samsung 244T, I get quite a lot of ghosting. I have the same setup at work, where I don't get any ghosting. I suppose it all hinges on the quality of the cable and the electromagnetic fields around it.
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I have a Sony Bravia 32" and a Sony DVD with HDMI output. Very happy indeed. Of course, I got them both dirt cheap as my wife used to work for Sony UK, but I won't depress you by telling you how much they cost... :) The Bravia comes with built-in Freeview and an analogue tuner. It only has one HDMI input though (mine is a year old, so check yours, as this may of changed) so if you ever want to hook up more than one HDMI device (console, Sky HD, etc.) you'd need a splitter, which is more cost. BTW, HDMI cables are very pricey and the DVD player won't come with one. Shop around. I have Sky HD too FWIW. The BBC HD picture is stunning (as are the various HD discovery channels), but there is still a lack of content, which is a shame. Sky are showing the latest US shows in HD (24, Lost, BSG, etc.) but they don't use as much bandwidth for their HD channels. I was disappointed to find that the new series of Doctor Who is SD - especially seeing as Torchwood was filmed in HD (and looks amazing).
Kicking squealing Gucci little piggy.
The Rob BlogRob Caldecott wrote:
The BBC HD picture is stunning (as are the various HD discovery channels)
I second that. Did you see Planet Earth on BBC? That is how documentaries are supposed to be shown! I almost shit in my pants when I saw all those birds in the sky. I swear I could've counted them all! It was that clear... HD for the win!
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The only issue with upscaling is whether it's done on the DVD player or in the TV itself. It still has to happen in order to fill the screen. If you're taking a separate audio feed from the DVD player, rather than putting the audio through the TV, you might notice a slight delay between the pictures and the audio because of the small but finite time it takes to do the upscaling - if the scaler is in the DVD player, it should resync the picture and audio to avoid this problem, but the TV wouldn't be able to do so. There is of course the other issue that a standard DVD player without upscaler will be pumping analogue RGB signals down a SCART cable rather than digital signals. However, again, this isn't as important as made out - I'm currently typing this on a machine running Windows Vista connected to a 19" LCD at 1280x1024 using a standard 4' VGA cable and there's no ghosting at all. ClearType is on and perfectly readable. It's not noticeably different from the DVI connection, to the same monitor, from my laptop running XP. Both the S and V models have a single built-in DVB-T (FreeView) digital tuner. It also looks like they support classic analogue PAL broadcasts.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
DVD video is recorded as progressive scan so if the player does the upscaling to 720p then you aaren't ocnverting and then from interlaced. Elaine :rose:
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I have a Sony Bravia 32" and a Sony DVD with HDMI output. Very happy indeed. Of course, I got them both dirt cheap as my wife used to work for Sony UK, but I won't depress you by telling you how much they cost... :) The Bravia comes with built-in Freeview and an analogue tuner. It only has one HDMI input though (mine is a year old, so check yours, as this may of changed) so if you ever want to hook up more than one HDMI device (console, Sky HD, etc.) you'd need a splitter, which is more cost. BTW, HDMI cables are very pricey and the DVD player won't come with one. Shop around. I have Sky HD too FWIW. The BBC HD picture is stunning (as are the various HD discovery channels), but there is still a lack of content, which is a shame. Sky are showing the latest US shows in HD (24, Lost, BSG, etc.) but they don't use as much bandwidth for their HD channels. I was disappointed to find that the new series of Doctor Who is SD - especially seeing as Torchwood was filmed in HD (and looks amazing).
Kicking squealing Gucci little piggy.
The Rob BlogExpensive HDMI cables are a con - I pay £7 for a 2 metre cable and £15 for a 5 metre, we even use them for demo setups! RS Components are your friend :-D
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Paul Watson wrote:
the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
1300 is 30% better than 1000. the color he's referring to is the color of your money.
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hehe, so true. He also started out saying the V had a better response rate than the S. I asked how much better, he said the V had 8ms and then asked another guy what the S was; turned out it was also 8ms. Doh.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Paul Watson wrote:
* the store clerk said "30% better colour" which made me laugh, how on gods green, red and blue earth do you measure colour in percentages
he probably meant 30% better contrast ratio. Lower contrast ratios do result in poorer quality colors since your whitest white and blackest black have less of a difference between them.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Well, the contrast ratio is 10% better on the V than on the S. The 30% colour is down to a "live colour processing engine" that enhances colour. I still think "30%" is a bullshit marketing thing.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Paul Watson wrote:
plain old analog terrestrial free-to-air TV.
Good way to give your new TV a virus. You never know where all that free air has been, heaven only knows what it's carrying.
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Yeah but I like to toughen my new babies up before hooking them up to the satellite feed. Give them a bit of an immune system. Have you seen the filth on satellite?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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The only issue with upscaling is whether it's done on the DVD player or in the TV itself. It still has to happen in order to fill the screen. If you're taking a separate audio feed from the DVD player, rather than putting the audio through the TV, you might notice a slight delay between the pictures and the audio because of the small but finite time it takes to do the upscaling - if the scaler is in the DVD player, it should resync the picture and audio to avoid this problem, but the TV wouldn't be able to do so. There is of course the other issue that a standard DVD player without upscaler will be pumping analogue RGB signals down a SCART cable rather than digital signals. However, again, this isn't as important as made out - I'm currently typing this on a machine running Windows Vista connected to a 19" LCD at 1280x1024 using a standard 4' VGA cable and there's no ghosting at all. ClearType is on and perfectly readable. It's not noticeably different from the DVI connection, to the same monitor, from my laptop running XP. Both the S and V models have a single built-in DVB-T (FreeView) digital tuner. It also looks like they support classic analogue PAL broadcasts.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder
Thanks Mike. The upscaling in this case would be by the DVD player and outputted to the TV over an HDMI link.
Mike Dimmick wrote:
Both the S and V models have a single built-in DVB-T (FreeView) digital tuner. It also looks like they support classic analogue PAL broadcasts.
Ta. I'll have to look up this FreeView thing.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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The Bravias, like most flat panel tvs have analogue/digitial tuners so you can use either transmission - we have several at work. A good DVD player with HDMI output will scale up nicely and the progressive output will be smoother than 567 interlaced. Forget all the HDDVD stuff for a few years. Elaine (progressive fluffy tigress)
Thanks Elaine :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
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Expensive HDMI cables are a con - I pay £7 for a 2 metre cable and £15 for a 5 metre, we even use them for demo setups! RS Components are your friend :-D
HDMI is digital right? Which means it doesn't suffer from analogue cable issues. It either works at the quality it is supposed to work at or it doesn't work at all. None of that "Buy gold plated HDMI for best quality." Right?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
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I have a Sony Bravia 32" and a Sony DVD with HDMI output. Very happy indeed. Of course, I got them both dirt cheap as my wife used to work for Sony UK, but I won't depress you by telling you how much they cost... :) The Bravia comes with built-in Freeview and an analogue tuner. It only has one HDMI input though (mine is a year old, so check yours, as this may of changed) so if you ever want to hook up more than one HDMI device (console, Sky HD, etc.) you'd need a splitter, which is more cost. BTW, HDMI cables are very pricey and the DVD player won't come with one. Shop around. I have Sky HD too FWIW. The BBC HD picture is stunning (as are the various HD discovery channels), but there is still a lack of content, which is a shame. Sky are showing the latest US shows in HD (24, Lost, BSG, etc.) but they don't use as much bandwidth for their HD channels. I was disappointed to find that the new series of Doctor Who is SD - especially seeing as Torchwood was filmed in HD (and looks amazing).
Kicking squealing Gucci little piggy.
The Rob Bloghehe, I live in Ireland so I'm pretty desensitized to rip off costs already. I could almost drive over to the UK, buy the TV there, drive back and still save money. As for the HDMI ports this years 32" Bravias have two. :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
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If you really want a good Sony TV, go for the W2000-series. Lots of bang for the buck! The newer Samsung M8x series aren't too shabby either. :)
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A co-worker has one of the 40W2000 and he says it is great but that in a normal or small sized room it is hard to watch. Too big and you notice all the defects in standard-def. Plus here it is a good €1000 more and costs €300 to deliver :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...