What is your favorite feature of Firefox?
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IE is flaky, is taking forever to close when a page is not rendering correctly. It also has a lot of difficulty with networks that has a weak connection. It is targeted by a lot of hackers and malware vendors. It is not easily expandable like firefox. Finally, IE follows the other browsers in terms of features and ease of use so that making it a poor browser. Do you need any other reason? PS. Indeed, if you can't install firefox because you don't have enough rights on the computer you're working on, IE can do the job. It is not evil, just not as good as firefox.
Jean-Michel Aubin Software Engineer Imaging division Matrox Electronics Ltee.
I agree with you but the truth of the matter is that most websites are optimized for IE and they tend to look funny on Firefox. That should be reson enough to use IE
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I'm always using several browsers at once to test my client-side code and making sure it renders the same way in each - and i'm assuming those of you currently working on web-based projects do as well. So after a while i switched to FF for things like research and finally just didn't bother using IE for anything other than work. ----------------- Mine: 1) The combination of tabs and comfortable UI, something between IE 6 and IE 7, but with the best of both worlds. 2) Ability to view the DOM source of a selection, even on a basic installation, something IE can't do. Especially useful when you are working with JavaScript/DHTML and looking for rendering bugs or just need a quick way understand code that someone else has written, esp. with OO JavaScript. 3) The Firebug plugin 4) The auto-save feature, especially useful now with the random reboot problem Roswell:)
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I'm always using several browsers at once to test my client-side code and making sure it renders the same way in each - and i'm assuming those of you currently working on web-based projects do as well. So after a while i switched to FF for things like research and finally just didn't bother using IE for anything other than work. ----------------- Mine: 1) The combination of tabs and comfortable UI, something between IE 6 and IE 7, but with the best of both worlds. 2) Ability to view the DOM source of a selection, even on a basic installation, something IE can't do. Especially useful when you are working with JavaScript/DHTML and looking for rendering bugs or just need a quick way understand code that someone else has written, esp. with OO JavaScript. 3) The Firebug plugin 4) The auto-save feature, especially useful now with the random reboot problem Roswell:)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CAIt is called FireBug ana it is awesome :-)
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I'm always using several browsers at once to test my client-side code and making sure it renders the same way in each - and i'm assuming those of you currently working on web-based projects do as well. So after a while i switched to FF for things like research and finally just didn't bother using IE for anything other than work. ----------------- Mine: 1) The combination of tabs and comfortable UI, something between IE 6 and IE 7, but with the best of both worlds. 2) Ability to view the DOM source of a selection, even on a basic installation, something IE can't do. Especially useful when you are working with JavaScript/DHTML and looking for rendering bugs or just need a quick way understand code that someone else has written, esp. with OO JavaScript. 3) The Firebug plugin 4) The auto-save feature, especially useful now with the random reboot problem Roswell:)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CAMy favorite is also firebug as far as necessity.... However, I waste most of my time with stumble upon. I just can't stop stumbling! (I know that IE can have a stumbleupon tool bar too, but not too long ago, I was stumbling with IE and caught a virus. Before I could do anything, my company enterprise virus software picked it up and took care of it, but everybody knew that I got a virus. How embarrassing! (I believe it was with IE6, maybe this wouldn't have happened in IE7???) One last thing; As I write this post (in Firefox) I notice the squiggly line under 1/4 of my words! So I guess for your sake, this built in spell checker is another favorite for me!
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I dont like firefox, I dont like IE 7 either, I find both are too cluttered, guess its a case of what you become familiar with, I know one day I will have to upgrade ( or should that be downgrade) to IE7 or an alternative, but I like the stone age way of doing things, at least in this respect.
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I agree with you but the truth of the matter is that most websites are optimized for IE and they tend to look funny on Firefox. That should be reson enough to use IE
That is no longer true. Even Microsoft recently redesigned MSDN, making it Firefox-compatible.
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:doh: sounds like you need a good book on CSS. apress pro css techniques comes highly recommended by me. :)
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I also highly recommend CSS Mastery: Advanced Web Standards Solutions by Andy Budd.
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I agree with you but the truth of the matter is that most websites are optimized for IE and they tend to look funny on Firefox. That should be reson enough to use IE
That not exactly true because IE is not totally compliant with the latest release of html standards by W3C but Firefox is. So, your optimizations refers mostly on non-standard html tag use which should not exists because it won't be rendered correctly in any browser but IE. Problem which in my opinion is more a hassle than a plus when it comes to webpage design. I think IE oriented pages will tend to disappear in the near future since a lot of people now use other browsers to "surf" than IE. I think of browsers like: Firefox opera konqueror netscape aol safari etc...
Jean-Michel Aubin Software Engineer Imaging division Matrox Electronics Ltee.
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My favorite is also firebug as far as necessity.... However, I waste most of my time with stumble upon. I just can't stop stumbling! (I know that IE can have a stumbleupon tool bar too, but not too long ago, I was stumbling with IE and caught a virus. Before I could do anything, my company enterprise virus software picked it up and took care of it, but everybody knew that I got a virus. How embarrassing! (I believe it was with IE6, maybe this wouldn't have happened in IE7???) One last thing; As I write this post (in Firefox) I notice the squiggly line under 1/4 of my words! So I guess for your sake, this built in spell checker is another favorite for me!
AddBlock. I of course only use it on websites where the ads concerned are not connected to the subject matter of the site.
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I'm always using several browsers at once to test my client-side code and making sure it renders the same way in each - and i'm assuming those of you currently working on web-based projects do as well. So after a while i switched to FF for things like research and finally just didn't bother using IE for anything other than work. ----------------- Mine: 1) The combination of tabs and comfortable UI, something between IE 6 and IE 7, but with the best of both worlds. 2) Ability to view the DOM source of a selection, even on a basic installation, something IE can't do. Especially useful when you are working with JavaScript/DHTML and looking for rendering bugs or just need a quick way understand code that someone else has written, esp. with OO JavaScript. 3) The Firebug plugin 4) The auto-save feature, especially useful now with the random reboot problem Roswell:)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CAMine: FireFTP FoxForecastEnhanced (I am a weather nerd):laugh: DownThemAll
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Extensions, of which I think my favorites are GreaseMonkey, FireBug, and DownThemAll.
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
Adblock. Jim
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The extension system is kind of cool in an objective programmer point of view though I have no real use for any of the extensions, other than that I see no real differences of any kind that matter to be honest.
"110%" - it's the new 70%
You should check out the web developers extention and the FireBug extention if you ever find yourself doing web work!
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I agree with you but the truth of the matter is that most websites are optimized for IE and they tend to look funny on Firefox. That should be reson enough to use IE
Njabulo Nxele wrote:
I agree with you but the truth of the matter is that most websites are optimized for IE and they tend to look funny on Firefox.
I agree that IE can successfully render a wider range of sites than FF (but it's definitely not true that most sites look funny in FF). However, having used FF for at least a couple of years now I find that the number of sites that don't render properly or well enough are too few to worry about. And when I do have a problem I can invoke with one click the excellent IETab extension which runs IE in a Firefox tab.
Kevin
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That is no longer true. Even Microsoft recently redesigned MSDN, making it Firefox-compatible.
And the MSDN forums have been Firefox compatible for some time. Microsoft's Scott Guthrie is a Firefox fan I believe.
Kevin
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That not exactly true because IE is not totally compliant with the latest release of html standards by W3C but Firefox is. So, your optimizations refers mostly on non-standard html tag use which should not exists because it won't be rendered correctly in any browser but IE. Problem which in my opinion is more a hassle than a plus when it comes to webpage design. I think IE oriented pages will tend to disappear in the near future since a lot of people now use other browsers to "surf" than IE. I think of browsers like: Firefox opera konqueror netscape aol safari etc...
Jean-Michel Aubin Software Engineer Imaging division Matrox Electronics Ltee.
MitchAubin wrote:
So, your optimizations refers mostly on non-standard html tag use which should not exists because it won't be rendered correctly in any browser but IE. Problem which in my opinion is more a hassle than a plus when it comes to webpage design.
That's true. But from an end-users perspective they don't give a damn. They just want to be able to view their pages. So if (for example) IE is able to render all sites while FF or Opera cannot, this would be a big plus for IE as far as end-users are concerned. The fact that IE may be in violation of standards is irrelevant. However, the actual situation is that FF can handle the vast majority of sites adequately. I used to use Opera before the emergence of FF. And I noticed immediately that FF was better than Opera in this respect. That was two years ago. And it still applies. MS, Google and Yahoo, for example, tend to focus on IE, FF and Safari for cross-browser support; Opera is neglected. Lots of AJAX-like functionality does not work on Opera. A pity, since Opera was very much the pioneer of browser innovations (e.g., tabbed browsing).
Kevin
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Extensions, of which I think my favorites are GreaseMonkey, FireBug, and DownThemAll.
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
Yes, Greasemonkey is cool. But it took me a while to figure out what all the fuss was about. It's one of those extensions where it's difficult to explain its value until you try it and see what it does. I have FireBug and Downthemall installed. I don't use them though. The former because I've not had to - I'm not doing any web dev right now. the latter, I found disappointing and not usable in the way I expected. Perhaps I was just not using it properly.
Kevin
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I'm always using several browsers at once to test my client-side code and making sure it renders the same way in each - and i'm assuming those of you currently working on web-based projects do as well. So after a while i switched to FF for things like research and finally just didn't bother using IE for anything other than work. ----------------- Mine: 1) The combination of tabs and comfortable UI, something between IE 6 and IE 7, but with the best of both worlds. 2) Ability to view the DOM source of a selection, even on a basic installation, something IE can't do. Especially useful when you are working with JavaScript/DHTML and looking for rendering bugs or just need a quick way understand code that someone else has written, esp. with OO JavaScript. 3) The Firebug plugin 4) The auto-save feature, especially useful now with the random reboot problem Roswell:)
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
The combination of tabs and comfortable UI, something between IE 6 and IE 7, but with the best of both worlds.
Yes. One attraction of FF (over Opera, for example) is that FF is paradoxically very IE-like but has better functionality. Here are a few others: Extensions in general. But there are a lot of small usability features where it scores. Downloads and Add-ons management Auto-update Display of web page titles in the address dropdown View page source in colour ...
Kevin
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You mean more than the standard memory leak?
Kevin
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Incremental Find FireBug GreaseMonkey Spellchecker
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...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...
Incremental Find and Spellchecker. How could I have forgotten those in my earlier posts? :doh:
Kevin