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  • C Clickok

    What's your recorder? and your favorite media?


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    Ray Cassick
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    For CDs I always use Sony For DVDs honestly I have had the best luck with store brand CompUSA or Best Buy. As far as burners go I have had mostly HPs and been happy with them. I have a HP dvd 940 now that does Dual Layer with lightscribe. I have not used it for Dual Layer yet (no need) but it seems to be running well.


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      have you tried DVD-RW? you just erase them and start over. but i agree with the other guy, set your speed to about 2X -- it's what i have to do to get a good result from the laptop cd burner that's got an excentric motor... Roswell

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      Clickok
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      RoswellNX wrote:

      have you tried DVD-RW? you just erase them and start over.

      The problem here is reliability. I wish record DVDs to backup data, but even if I store two copies, still runs a serious risk to lose the information... I find more reliable buy a new hard drive just to backup. :doh: I think if blueray/hd-dvd will be more "rock solid" than DVDs...


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        I have a collection of about 500 burned music DVDs ( copied from VHS of stuff that has not come out on DVD, or stuff like people taking a camera to a concert, or taping Headbangers Ball back in the 80s ). I recently bought a Creative Zen W, so I went back to rip stuff to watch on there. I kept a full backup set. I found a ton of DVDs that had failed, although only one that failed on both copies ( obviously, some that worked have probably died on the backup ). Luckily, Whitesnake seem to be about to release a lot of their promo clips on DVD, that being what I lost. And yes, if anything I have copied comes out for sale, I buy it.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I have a collection of about 500 burned music DVDs

        Christian Graus wrote:

        I kept a full backup set.

        So (if I understood correctly) you have near of 1000 DVDs?

        Christian Graus wrote:

        I found a ton of DVDs that had failed,

        This kind of thing never happened with me when I used CDs. But the large capacity of DVD turn it a "must have", even less reliable. :(


        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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          RoswellNX wrote:

          have you tried DVD-RW? you just erase them and start over.

          The problem here is reliability. I wish record DVDs to backup data, but even if I store two copies, still runs a serious risk to lose the information... I find more reliable buy a new hard drive just to backup. :doh: I think if blueray/hd-dvd will be more "rock solid" than DVDs...


          For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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          RoswellNX
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          Clickok wrote:

          I find more reliable buy a new hard drive just to backup.

          I agree...DVDs are more installation media than anything. It's not the best idea to trust your important data to a plastic circle, esp. when a single little scratch can render the whole disk unreadable (if you compress the file as a split archive, losing one disk may mean you lose a even more) Roswell

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          • C Clickok

            When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


            For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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            S Douglas
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            Clickok wrote:

            I'm tired of throw off DVD discs

            So don't throw them away, use the bad DVDs as art or coasters :rolleyes:


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              When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


              For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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              Ed Poore
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              I've managed well burning at full speed (about 8x) with my LITE-ON DVD±RW burner and the cheapest DVDs / CDs we can find.  My sister and father also have the same burner and as far as I know have had no failures either with it.  The couple I have had in 4 years have been completely my fault.

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                Clickok wrote:

                I'm tired of throw off DVD discs

                So don't throw them away, use the bad DVDs as art or coasters :rolleyes:


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                Ed Poore
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                Buy an air-rifle and use them as target practice, that's what I do :rolleyes:

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                • C Clickok

                  When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


                  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                  Lost User
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                  Are they unknown brand disks? If so then write at a lower speed.

                  The tigress is here :-D

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                  • C Clickok

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I have a collection of about 500 burned music DVDs

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I kept a full backup set.

                    So (if I understood correctly) you have near of 1000 DVDs?

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    I found a ton of DVDs that had failed,

                    This kind of thing never happened with me when I used CDs. But the large capacity of DVD turn it a "must have", even less reliable. :(


                    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Clickok wrote:

                    So (if I understood correctly) you have near of 1000 DVDs?

                    Correct :(

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                    • C Clickok

                      When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


                      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                      wout de zeeuw
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                      I backup on CD's or memory stick, somehow I trust these DVD's less than CD's, the bits are smaller, thus you'd think more prone to error. Flash memory is terribly cheap, and handles easily so why not use that as backup?

                      Wout

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                        Buy an air-rifle and use them as target practice, that's what I do :rolleyes:

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                        Ed.Poore wrote:

                        use them as target practice

                        An even better idea. :)


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                        • C Clickok

                          What's your recorder? and your favorite media?


                          For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                          CD/DVD Media Quality Guide[^] I've used various brands of DVD burners with equal success, but I've never had one with lightscribe. One thing to note - if you play a game that uses StarForce for copy protection, there's a good possibility it will physically damage your burner. It happened to me.

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                            RoswellNX wrote:

                            have you tried DVD-RW? you just erase them and start over.

                            The problem here is reliability. I wish record DVDs to backup data, but even if I store two copies, still runs a serious risk to lose the information... I find more reliable buy a new hard drive just to backup. :doh: I think if blueray/hd-dvd will be more "rock solid" than DVDs...


                            For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                            If you want a decent backup device, get a Iomega Rev drive. 80gb of backup on removable cartridges.

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                              Ed.Poore wrote:

                              use them as target practice

                              An even better idea. :)


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                              Yeah it's just a bit too easy with my current air-rifle, when a friend came over last time we stacked 30 in a row and shot at them to see how far the pellet penetrated and it went through 14 and the cracks continued for another 7 CDs :eek: Mind you this air-rifle is good out to 70+ yards, furthest I've killed something with it was a crow at 100 yards which is a long way for an air-rifle.

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                                Yeah it's just a bit too easy with my current air-rifle, when a friend came over last time we stacked 30 in a row and shot at them to see how far the pellet penetrated and it went through 14 and the cracks continued for another 7 CDs :eek: Mind you this air-rifle is good out to 70+ yards, furthest I've killed something with it was a crow at 100 yards which is a long way for an air-rifle.

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                                Ed.Poore wrote:

                                Mind you this air-rifle is good out to 70+ yards, furthest I've killed something with it was a crow at 100 yards which is a long way for an air-rifle.

                                Wow, that's not bad at all. I don't think either my slightly modified air rifle or the home made one are quite that powerful. Then again, I have 2 30-06 rifles and a 30-30, plenty enough for taking out miss behaving DVD / CDs.:rolleyes: Is your Air rifle something you made or did you buy if off the shelf?


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                                  When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


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                                  David Wulff
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                                  I have always had similar luck, reglardless of the brand of media or drive, until I too started burning at n-1 speeds. Since then I rarely get a damaged DVD (but oddly, the number of dead CDR's I burn has stayed at around the 20% mark).


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                                    When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


                                    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                    John M Drescher
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                                    If you are getting this high a failure rate you either have a bad dvd burner or you are using a very low quality media. I have burned several hundred dvd+Rs with maybe a 2% failure rate. I use mostly Reitek and sometimes Verbatum media on LITE-ON and Samsung drives mostly at full 16X speed.

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                                      When recording CDs,an average of 5% of the media was toasted. But DVDs, I think that I discard 30% to 40%. I have tried change recorders, media, everything, but nothing works... Does someone knows if blueray/hd-dvd produce less headaches when recording? I'm tired of throw off DVD discs... :mad:


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                                      Huh. The only time i've had trouble was when i ended up with a bad batch of discs. 3M discs seem pretty stable, so i've just gone with those ever since. But then, i always burn at 2x, so that might make a difference as well...

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                                        Ed.Poore wrote:

                                        Mind you this air-rifle is good out to 70+ yards, furthest I've killed something with it was a crow at 100 yards which is a long way for an air-rifle.

                                        Wow, that's not bad at all. I don't think either my slightly modified air rifle or the home made one are quite that powerful. Then again, I have 2 30-06 rifles and a 30-30, plenty enough for taking out miss behaving DVD / CDs.:rolleyes: Is your Air rifle something you made or did you buy if off the shelf?


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                                        • R RoswellNX

                                          for Cd's, i've been told to avoid Memorex, so i use Maxell CD-RWs...i'm assuming the same would still be true for DVDs Roswell

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                                          Sorry to hear that you're having such problems and I don't mean to gloat, but I seriously can't remember the last time I had a DVD coaster. I use bog standard blank media and I also use re-writeable DVDs (TDK) withouyt any problems whatsoever. My burner is from LG - Life's Good! I think with my previous burner the biggest issue was making sure I got the right type of DVD i.e. + or -, but my LG takes both sorts. If you are using DVDs only temporarily I would recommend buying a box of say 10 re-writebale's and just using those. Works for me. Cheers, Des F

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