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    Andreas Saurwein
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    Well, a discussion with a friend left us with the following: 1 Kb = 1024 bytes, fine everyone knows that but 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? A search on the internet didnt help much, both numbers are used. Windows Explorer (under XP) uses 1024*1024. Which one do you favor? After all, Mega stands for 1000, Giga for 1000*1000 and so on. Or am I wrong about this? Vote against software patents in europe

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      Well, a discussion with a friend left us with the following: 1 Kb = 1024 bytes, fine everyone knows that but 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? A search on the internet didnt help much, both numbers are used. Windows Explorer (under XP) uses 1024*1024. Which one do you favor? After all, Mega stands for 1000, Giga for 1000*1000 and so on. Or am I wrong about this? Vote against software patents in europe

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      Christian Graus
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      It's 1024 x 1024, but scabby, lying hard drive manufacturers have started the 1024 x 1000 trend to boost the size of their drives. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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      • A Andreas Saurwein

        Well, a discussion with a friend left us with the following: 1 Kb = 1024 bytes, fine everyone knows that but 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? A search on the internet didnt help much, both numbers are used. Windows Explorer (under XP) uses 1024*1024. Which one do you favor? After all, Mega stands for 1000, Giga for 1000*1000 and so on. Or am I wrong about this? Vote against software patents in europe

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        ColinDavies
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        There is a difference between using capital and small letters eg (1 Kb != 1 KB),(1 Kb != 1kb) and (1 KB != 1kb) Same with Mb and Gb, but folk tend to use them interchangably, which hurts. Regardz Colin J Davies

        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

        More about me :-)

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          There is a difference between using capital and small letters eg (1 Kb != 1 KB),(1 Kb != 1kb) and (1 KB != 1kb) Same with Mb and Gb, but folk tend to use them interchangably, which hurts. Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          More about me :-)

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          Christian Graus
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          You're saying there are THREE definitions of a kilobyte ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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            There is a difference between using capital and small letters eg (1 Kb != 1 KB),(1 Kb != 1kb) and (1 KB != 1kb) Same with Mb and Gb, but folk tend to use them interchangably, which hurts. Regardz Colin J Davies

            Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

            More about me :-)

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            Andreas Saurwein
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            SINCE MY KEYBOARD IS A BIT STICKY FROM THE COKE I HAVE NO CHOICE - I HAVE TO USE KB. HOW MUCH IS THAT NOW? ;P Vote against software patents in europe

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              There is a difference between using capital and small letters eg (1 Kb != 1 KB),(1 Kb != 1kb) and (1 KB != 1kb) Same with Mb and Gb, but folk tend to use them interchangably, which hurts. Regardz Colin J Davies

              Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

              More about me :-)

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              Simon Walton
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              "Look, I know when I've been cheated. My modem says it downloads at 56K/sec yet I never get over 5k/Sec...." The old argument :) Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 Current Addiction : Colin Mcrae Rally 2.0

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                "Look, I know when I've been cheated. My modem says it downloads at 56K/sec yet I never get over 5k/Sec...." The old argument :) Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 Current Addiction : Colin Mcrae Rally 2.0

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                Alexandru Savescu
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                Your modem says 56Kb/sec = 56000 bits per second = 56000/8 = 7KB kilobytes) / sec. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu

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                • A Andreas Saurwein

                  Well, a discussion with a friend left us with the following: 1 Kb = 1024 bytes, fine everyone knows that but 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? A search on the internet didnt help much, both numbers are used. Windows Explorer (under XP) uses 1024*1024. Which one do you favor? After all, Mega stands for 1000, Giga for 1000*1000 and so on. Or am I wrong about this? Vote against software patents in europe

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                  Alexandru Savescu
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                  I believe it goes like this: B - byte b - bit K or k when next to B means 1024 bytes (2^10) and when next to b means 1000 bits (10^3). M when next to B means 1024*1024 bytes (2^20) and when next to b means 10^6 bits. G when next to B means 2^30 bytes and when next to b means 10^9 bits respecitvely. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu

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                  • A Andreas Saurwein

                    SINCE MY KEYBOARD IS A BIT STICKY FROM THE COKE I HAVE NO CHOICE - I HAVE TO USE KB. HOW MUCH IS THAT NOW? ;P Vote against software patents in europe

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                    Simon Walton
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                    Sticky from coke is it? We believe you, Andreas... :) Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 Current Addiction : Colin Mcrae Rally 2.0

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                    • A Alexandru Savescu

                      I believe it goes like this: B - byte b - bit K or k when next to B means 1024 bytes (2^10) and when next to b means 1000 bits (10^3). M when next to B means 1024*1024 bytes (2^20) and when next to b means 10^6 bits. G when next to B means 2^30 bytes and when next to b means 10^9 bits respecitvely. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu

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                      Stephen Kellett
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                      I'll buy that for a dollar, or in normal language, I concur. Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk

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                      • A Andreas Saurwein

                        Well, a discussion with a friend left us with the following: 1 Kb = 1024 bytes, fine everyone knows that but 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? A search on the internet didnt help much, both numbers are used. Windows Explorer (under XP) uses 1024*1024. Which one do you favor? After all, Mega stands for 1000, Giga for 1000*1000 and so on. Or am I wrong about this? Vote against software patents in europe

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                        Mauricio Ritter
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                        Andreas Saurwein wrote: 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? 1024 x 1024 I think... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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                        • A Alexandru Savescu

                          I believe it goes like this: B - byte b - bit K or k when next to B means 1024 bytes (2^10) and when next to b means 1000 bits (10^3). M when next to B means 1024*1024 bytes (2^20) and when next to b means 10^6 bits. G when next to B means 2^30 bytes and when next to b means 10^9 bits respecitvely. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu

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                          ColinDavies
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                          That is very well explained. :-) Now can you explain to the audience when we use superscript and subscript. eg Gb and mB :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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                          More about me :-)

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                          • A Alexandru Savescu

                            Your modem says 56Kb/sec = 56000 bits per second = 56000/8 = 7KB kilobytes) / sec. Best regards, Alexandru Savescu

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                            Ed Gadziemski
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                            Actually, it's 56000/10 = 5.6KB per second. You forgot the start and stop bits for each byte.

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                              That is very well explained. :-) Now can you explain to the audience when we use superscript and subscript. eg Gb and mB :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

                              Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

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                              Ed Gadziemski
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                              That's a small m there, so you must mean milliBytes.

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                              • A Andreas Saurwein

                                Well, a discussion with a friend left us with the following: 1 Kb = 1024 bytes, fine everyone knows that but 1 Mb = 1024*1000 or 1024*1024 ??? A search on the internet didnt help much, both numbers are used. Windows Explorer (under XP) uses 1024*1024. Which one do you favor? After all, Mega stands for 1000, Giga for 1000*1000 and so on. Or am I wrong about this? Vote against software patents in europe

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                                Sean Cundiff
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                                Computer Metrics: 1 KB = 2^10 1 MB = 2^20 1 GB = 2^30 1 TB = 2^40 and so on. (except for stinking hard drive manufacturers where 1 Mb = 1,000,000 bytes). -Sean ---- "I'm a breast man."

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                                  You're saying there are THREE definitions of a kilobyte ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                                  Jack Handy
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                                  Christian Graus wrote: You're saying there are THREE definitions of a kilobyte ? No, KB is kilobyte and Kb is kilobit. I don't know what the small k is that he speaks of. -Jack To an optimist the glass is half full. To a pessimist the glass is half empty. To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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                                    Computer Metrics: 1 KB = 2^10 1 MB = 2^20 1 GB = 2^30 1 TB = 2^40 and so on. (except for stinking hard drive manufacturers where 1 Mb = 1,000,000 bytes). -Sean ---- "I'm a breast man."

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                                    Jonathan Tan
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                                    Well...I thought that a small 'k' was used for 'kilo'? I'm not too sure of that part, though. And I know that capital M, G, and T are used for mega etc.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote: You're saying there are THREE definitions of a kilobyte ? No, KB is kilobyte and Kb is kilobit. I don't know what the small k is that he speaks of. -Jack To an optimist the glass is half full. To a pessimist the glass is half empty. To a programmer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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                                      peterchen
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                                      small k is 1000, true K is 1024


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                                        Computer Metrics: 1 KB = 2^10 1 MB = 2^20 1 GB = 2^30 1 TB = 2^40 and so on. (except for stinking hard drive manufacturers where 1 Mb = 1,000,000 bytes). -Sean ---- "I'm a breast man."

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                                        markkuk
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                                        According to the official standard the binary prefixes should be distinguished from the decimal ones with an "i" in the middle: 1 MiB = 2^10 B, 1 MB = 10^6 B etc.

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                                        • E Ed Gadziemski

                                          Actually, it's 56000/10 = 5.6KB per second. You forgot the start and stop bits for each byte.

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                                          James T Johnson
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                                          Actually you're both wrong, if you live in the US. The FCC won't let modem's go over a certain rate, I think its 42000 or 46000 ;P James Simplicity Rules!

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