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Tragedy Of The Day Better learn Asp.Net:laugh:
"Wrestling with the idea that HTML might be useful for something beyond web pages"..
Someone9 should post here soon for this:rolleyes:
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HTML is not code in my definition...it's something of a set of elements/tags that denote structure in a document, just as is its cousin XML, but unlike it, HTML isn't used as a data exchange format beyond the web browser, so the tags are specifically designed "guides" for the browser to parse and display data a certain way, depending on their placement. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) behave in a similar way but they are responsible for the formatting (visual) aspect of a web page, and are utterly dependant on the HTML tags for structure. Javascript, a client-side scripting language, as well as numerous server-side languages/technologies such as ASP.net (includes C# and VB.net), PHP, Ruby on RAILS and PERL, on the other hand, ARE code. To be code they have to manipulate the contents of a page, whereas HTML on its own, as well as CSS are static... Roswell:|
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
Tragedy Of The Day Better learn Asp.Net:laugh:
"Wrestling with the idea that HTML might be useful for something beyond web pages"..
Someone9 should post here soon for this:rolleyes:
Smile: A curve that can set a lot of things straight! (\ /) (O.o) (><)
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HTML is not code in my definition...it's something of a set of elements/tags that denote structure in a document, just as is its cousin XML, but unlike it, HTML isn't used as a data exchange format beyond the web browser, so the tags are specifically designed "guides" for the browser to parse and display data a certain way, depending on their placement. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) behave in a similar way but they are responsible for the formatting (visual) aspect of a web page, and are utterly dependant on the HTML tags for structure. Javascript, a client-side scripting language, as well as numerous server-side languages/technologies such as ASP.net (includes C# and VB.net), PHP, Ruby on RAILS and PERL, on the other hand, ARE code. To be code they have to manipulate the contents of a page, whereas HTML on its own, as well as CSS are static... Roswell:|
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
I knew the market was bad, but not that bad.
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog
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It's even worse in here, my friend just applied in a web designing company when they offered him 10 cents per page!!!!!! All I could say was just WTF!! :wtf:
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indeed, the only thing you can say to such an offer is, I'll stay unemployed for just a little longer until I find someone that is willing to pay. C'mon, that isn't normal!
WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog
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That was exactly my first impression, I think HTML "coders" deserve that ending;P
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Muammar© wrote:
That was exactly my first impression, I think HTML "coders" deserve that ending
In addition to that, he's not up to date on the standards, so why bother with a developer that can't guarantee that his work is XHTML 1.0 compliant?:laugh: Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
It's even worse in here, my friend just applied in a web designing company when they offered him 10 cents per page!!!!!! All I could say was just WTF!! :wtf:
Smile: A curve that can set a lot of things straight! (\ /) (O.o) (><)
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It's even worse in here, my friend just applied in a web designing company when they offered him 10 cents per page!!!!!! All I could say was just WTF!! :wtf:
Smile: A curve that can set a lot of things straight! (\ /) (O.o) (><)
What area of web dev? But it does sound pretty odd. :wtf: I freelance and i charge for each part of the web site seperately, which includes a layout/visual design (HTML & CSS), a "back end" (server side), custom graphics and document formatting. Flash applets are also something i do, but they also range in price depending on the ammount of work. But what they say makes no sense. Do they pay for basically word processing, or as i call it "document formatting", which can be partially done by a script if you want to have characters escaped, but need a human element to overseeing spelling and gramar as well as the formatting itself? That's just busywork. Layout/design cannot be counted in pages and takes several (two or three) days (to perfect it and iron out bugs), which is worth more than just 10c. Flash can't be counted in uniform pages either. Server side scripts serve pages or perform tasks, so they can't be counted as pages either, becuase the ammount of work always depends on the project. Graphics are typically not uniform as well, and are quite expensive if they require a lot of work (i.e. the client says "i just want it done", and you have to purchase the photograps, and do a good portion of the clipart yourself), so it's not that either... It seems like it's probably word processing in the end, and if your friend has skills, he's worthy of a better project:doh: Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
HTML is not code in my definition...it's something of a set of elements/tags that denote structure in a document, just as is its cousin XML, but unlike it, HTML isn't used as a data exchange format beyond the web browser, so the tags are specifically designed "guides" for the browser to parse and display data a certain way, depending on their placement. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) behave in a similar way but they are responsible for the formatting (visual) aspect of a web page, and are utterly dependant on the HTML tags for structure. Javascript, a client-side scripting language, as well as numerous server-side languages/technologies such as ASP.net (includes C# and VB.net), PHP, Ruby on RAILS and PERL, on the other hand, ARE code. To be code they have to manipulate the contents of a page, whereas HTML on its own, as well as CSS are static... Roswell:|
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
HTML is not code in my definition...it's something of a set of elements/tags that denote structure in a document, just as is its cousin XML, but unlike it, HTML isn't used as a data exchange format beyond the web browser, so the tags are specifically designed "guides" for the browser to parse and display data a certain way, depending on their placement. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) behave in a similar way but they are responsible for the formatting (visual) aspect of a web page, and are utterly dependant on the HTML tags for structure. Javascript, a client-side scripting language, as well as numerous server-side languages/technologies such as ASP.net (includes C# and VB.net), PHP, Ruby on RAILS and PERL, on the other hand, ARE code. To be code they have to manipulate the contents of a page, whereas HTML on its own, as well as CSS are static... Roswell:|
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CAExactly right and how many among us actuall programmers have been stuck in a social situation with a web "developer" who thinks we have much in common when in reality we have about as much in common as an automobile designer and a taxi driver.
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