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  • L Lost User

    437 songs. Pah. My current stats are 10,821 songs, which is 805 albums by 378 artists. :) 1. I never use the EQ settings on my iPod, because when I've tried, they all sound pretty crappy. 2. Is yours an 80GB? I've run out of space on my 4G 20GB and am looking to upgrade RSN. 3. I'm interested to know what don't you like about iTunes. I like it lots now, but hated it at first. I bought a copy of Anapod and wasn't impressed. That was a while ago though. FWIW I rip my CDs using a combination of Exact Audio Copy/LAME (as MP3s using VBR 'preset-extreme' mode). 4. No idea. 5. I am still using the supplied buds. 6. Guess it depends on the car. I am getting a VW Golf in a month or two that comes with an iPod kit (hidden away in the centre armrest, which is pretty cool) which allows you to control the iPod via controls on the steering column. Sweet.


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    Rob Caldecott wrote:

    437 songs. Pah. My current stats are 10,821 songs, which is 805 albums by 378 artists.

    I have actually given up a little on inventotying my current collection. I seem to have filled up over 800 gigabytes of drive space with music from every genre and cross genre you could imagine. I personally use a sandisk mini player and fill it up as needed. I have no hope of putting any percentage of a collection on one of those things and I find windows media player works fine. My 2C.

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      It took 7 hours to get 437 songs on my shiny new iPod after cherry-picking songs from the first 100 or so of our 600 CD collection. Observations: 1) The EQ settings are inadequate. Why didn't they implement a EQ that allows the user to set levels for individual frequency ranges? How stupid. 2) The thing weighs quite a bit. 3) iTunes still sucks donkey balls. I am using FreeRip to rip the songs off the CDs to MP3, and then I use SharePod (many thanks to whoever suggested this software) to move the songs from the PC to the iPod. 4) When I go to the genre selection screen, one of the items is "(89) Bluegrass". I only have about half a dozen songs that were added to "bluegrass", and when I select "All", that's how many it shows me. What does the "89" actually indicate? 5) Are there better headphones available that anybody can recommend? This might mitigate my EQ complaints a little bit. I'm looking for something that's small enough to be portable. 6) I almost ran off the road playing with this thing, so I think I want to get a car adapter do-hicky. None of the cigarette lighter adapters that securely hold the iPod will let me use the protective case that I already bought. Does anyone have any advice here?

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      The supplied earbuds with music players are always rubbish. I use Sony MDR-EX71 earbuds (available in basic black[^] or pretentious white[^]) with both my Minidisc player and my computer at work. They're not quite comfortable enough to wear all day, though.

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        Rob Caldecott wrote:

        437 songs. Pah. My current stats are 10,821 songs, which is 805 albums by 378 artists.

        I have actually given up a little on inventotying my current collection. I seem to have filled up over 800 gigabytes of drive space with music from every genre and cross genre you could imagine. I personally use a sandisk mini player and fill it up as needed. I have no hope of putting any percentage of a collection on one of those things and I find windows media player works fine. My 2C.

        _____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe

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        You must be (or have been) really rich! :)

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          I use some sony headphones that kind of look like buds on the headband, but the buds go in sideways. They are about $10 at Best Buy. I am going to invest in the Bose noise cancelling headphones. They are larger, but they ROCK. I tried them at Target and I can't believe the sound quality. For the holder, just go to Best Buy. They have tons of stuff of iPods (and not Creative Zen...grr.)

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          That's where I got the iPod, and I scoured the pegboards for something that would fit the bill. I want to be able to charge the device while it's plugged in/playing, so a number of the available auto adapters don't meet my requirements. The people that make the protective case (Griffin) also make the "RoadTrip", but it's device retaining bracket isn't wide enough to accommodate the case. I fired off an email to them, asking if they make an appropriate bracket. I'm not optimistic, though. Those Bose headphones are way expensive. :(

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            It took 7 hours to get 437 songs on my shiny new iPod after cherry-picking songs from the first 100 or so of our 600 CD collection. Observations: 1) The EQ settings are inadequate. Why didn't they implement a EQ that allows the user to set levels for individual frequency ranges? How stupid. 2) The thing weighs quite a bit. 3) iTunes still sucks donkey balls. I am using FreeRip to rip the songs off the CDs to MP3, and then I use SharePod (many thanks to whoever suggested this software) to move the songs from the PC to the iPod. 4) When I go to the genre selection screen, one of the items is "(89) Bluegrass". I only have about half a dozen songs that were added to "bluegrass", and when I select "All", that's how many it shows me. What does the "89" actually indicate? 5) Are there better headphones available that anybody can recommend? This might mitigate my EQ complaints a little bit. I'm looking for something that's small enough to be portable. 6) I almost ran off the road playing with this thing, so I think I want to get a car adapter do-hicky. None of the cigarette lighter adapters that securely hold the iPod will let me use the protective case that I already bought. Does anyone have any advice here?

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            You may want to try Media Monkey[^], it'll rip (and play) most formats and will synch with the ipoo. Try some Shure EC2 earphones (or similarly price Sennheisers).

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            • K KevinMac

              What are your impressions of the Zune? I am waiting around until the larger drives are available but I was thinking of switching from my Ipod to the Zune.

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              KevinMac wrote:

              What are your impressions of the Zune? I am waiting around until the larger drives are available but I was thinking of switching from my Ipod to the Zune.

              The software isn't the greatest... better than iTunes in my opinion though. I like it and the interface makes sense to me. Firmware updates are quite regular, its nice to know that Microsoft is working on fixing its issues and improving the device, rather than fixing it in the next "version" (maybe the Zune 360 :D ). My favorite part is its not an iPod. It annoys me to know end when people just assume that all MP3 players are iPods. On a side note my fiancee loves her Zune, the only thing she doesn't like about it is that they came out with a pink Zune after i bought her a white one.

              Matt Newman

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              • L Lost User

                437 songs. Pah. My current stats are 10,821 songs, which is 805 albums by 378 artists. :) 1. I never use the EQ settings on my iPod, because when I've tried, they all sound pretty crappy. 2. Is yours an 80GB? I've run out of space on my 4G 20GB and am looking to upgrade RSN. 3. I'm interested to know what don't you like about iTunes. I like it lots now, but hated it at first. I bought a copy of Anapod and wasn't impressed. That was a while ago though. FWIW I rip my CDs using a combination of Exact Audio Copy/LAME (as MP3s using VBR 'preset-extreme' mode). 4. No idea. 5. I am still using the supplied buds. 6. Guess it depends on the car. I am getting a VW Golf in a month or two that comes with an iPod kit (hidden away in the centre armrest, which is pretty cool) which allows you to control the iPod via controls on the steering column. Sweet.


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                Rob Caldecott wrote:

                437 songs. Pah. My current stats are 10,821 songs, which is 805 albums by 378 artists.

                I don't just willy-nilly zap an entire CD onto it. Most of the CDs I've bought have maybe one or two decent songs, so I'm cherry-picking. It's looking like it's going to take a couple of weeks to go through our entire CD collection. I anticipate having no more than 2000 songs.

                Rob Caldecott wrote:

                I'm interested to know what don't you like about iTunes.

                It's interface is completely unintuitive to me (I've got 7.2 installed). Maybe I need to buy a book (which is STUPID).

                Rob Caldecott wrote:

                Guess it depends on the car.

                I have a 2004 Crown Victoria. The most advanced part of the sound system is that it uses electricity without me having to use a hand-crank. :)

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                • M Matt Newman

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  1. The EQ settings are inadequate. Why didn't they implement a EQ that allows the user to set levels for individual frequency ranges? How stupid.

                  You are missing the point, its "pretty" and supposedly the buttons are lickable :P

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  1. iTunes still sucks donkey balls.

                  Are you suprised? Apple has made a business based on sucking donkey balls... why quit?

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  1. I almost ran off the road playing with this thing, so I think I want to get a car adapter do-hicky. None of the cigarette lighter adapters that securely hold the iPod will let me use the protective case that I already bought. Does anyone have any advice here?

                  I bought a cigarette lighter adapter for my Zune that isn't Zune specific, one end is the cigarette plug and the other end a mini-jack with an FM transmitter in the middle. I think it might have been a Monster, but don't really know. Paid like $20 for it. I don't know if that is something you are looking for but, I like it because it works with any protective cases and works with iPod or Zune.

                  Matt Newman

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                  Matt Newman wrote:

                  You are missing the point, its "pretty" and supposedly the buttons are lickable

                  I can assure you that I've never seen a button on ANY device that I considered licking. :)

                  Matt Newman wrote:

                  I bought a cigarette lighter adapter

                  See my response to Lecky.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                    Matt Newman wrote:

                    You are missing the point, its "pretty" and supposedly the buttons are lickable

                    I can assure you that I've never seen a button on ANY device that I considered licking. :)

                    Matt Newman wrote:

                    I bought a cigarette lighter adapter

                    See my response to Lecky.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    I can assure you that I've never seen a button on ANY device that I considered licking.

                    Me either, but supposedly thats what Apple is going for...

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    See my response to Lecky.

                    I would be careful with a car charger/adapter, depending on the length of your drive it can be easy to kill the battery with short incomplete charges.

                    Matt Newman

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      That's where I got the iPod, and I scoured the pegboards for something that would fit the bill. I want to be able to charge the device while it's plugged in/playing, so a number of the available auto adapters don't meet my requirements. The people that make the protective case (Griffin) also make the "RoadTrip", but it's device retaining bracket isn't wide enough to accommodate the case. I fired off an email to them, asking if they make an appropriate bracket. I'm not optimistic, though. Those Bose headphones are way expensive. :(

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      Expensive, but worth it when you work with Chatty Cathy's all day.

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        You must be (or have been) really rich! :)

                        -- Presented in doublevision (where drunk)

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                        I listen to allot of indie music which has a tendency to offer a much larger free sample base. Often if i have enjoyed the demos I will buy the album or songs I like. Also, I started collecting CD's when I was fresh in college and did not have other financial obligations, also, used stores have helped out a great bit. Rich - no, I just listen to allot of music that you can get for free!!(Legally)

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                        • M Matt Newman

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          I can assure you that I've never seen a button on ANY device that I considered licking.

                          Me either, but supposedly thats what Apple is going for...

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          See my response to Lecky.

                          I would be careful with a car charger/adapter, depending on the length of your drive it can be easy to kill the battery with short incomplete charges.

                          Matt Newman

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                          Crappy charger then... :suss:

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                            It took 7 hours to get 437 songs on my shiny new iPod after cherry-picking songs from the first 100 or so of our 600 CD collection. Observations: 1) The EQ settings are inadequate. Why didn't they implement a EQ that allows the user to set levels for individual frequency ranges? How stupid. 2) The thing weighs quite a bit. 3) iTunes still sucks donkey balls. I am using FreeRip to rip the songs off the CDs to MP3, and then I use SharePod (many thanks to whoever suggested this software) to move the songs from the PC to the iPod. 4) When I go to the genre selection screen, one of the items is "(89) Bluegrass". I only have about half a dozen songs that were added to "bluegrass", and when I select "All", that's how many it shows me. What does the "89" actually indicate? 5) Are there better headphones available that anybody can recommend? This might mitigate my EQ complaints a little bit. I'm looking for something that's small enough to be portable. 6) I almost ran off the road playing with this thing, so I think I want to get a car adapter do-hicky. None of the cigarette lighter adapters that securely hold the iPod will let me use the protective case that I already bought. Does anyone have any advice here?

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            I probably have the answer for your fourth point, even if I don't own an Ipod. Back when ID3 was far from standardized, MP3 players used to tag the genre using proprietary fields, and one of the formats was (GENRE_CODE) GENRE_NAME. Some of those wrong tags went even into CDDB services, so if you rely on automatic tagging based on CDDB you will sometimes get this kind of errors. Probably stripping ID3V1 & ID3V2 tags, and retagging those song with a modern software (like MusicBrainz Picard) will fix them.

                            Luca

                            The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance.

                            En Það Besta Sem Guð Hefur Skapað, Er Nýr Dagur. But the best thing God has created, is a New Day.

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                              I probably have the answer for your fourth point, even if I don't own an Ipod. Back when ID3 was far from standardized, MP3 players used to tag the genre using proprietary fields, and one of the formats was (GENRE_CODE) GENRE_NAME. Some of those wrong tags went even into CDDB services, so if you rely on automatic tagging based on CDDB you will sometimes get this kind of errors. Probably stripping ID3V1 & ID3V2 tags, and retagging those song with a modern software (like MusicBrainz Picard) will fix them.

                              Luca

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                              En Það Besta Sem Guð Hefur Skapað, Er Nýr Dagur. But the best thing God has created, is a New Day.

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                              I can top bad genere tagging. One of my Ramstien cds had a cover of Depeche Mode's Stripped. What I got from the CDDB tagged it as a completely different song (the only thing right was that it was English not German). And ofc if you've warezed your mp3's cthulu only knows what you got.

                              -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                It took 7 hours to get 437 songs on my shiny new iPod after cherry-picking songs from the first 100 or so of our 600 CD collection. Observations: 1) The EQ settings are inadequate. Why didn't they implement a EQ that allows the user to set levels for individual frequency ranges? How stupid. 2) The thing weighs quite a bit. 3) iTunes still sucks donkey balls. I am using FreeRip to rip the songs off the CDs to MP3, and then I use SharePod (many thanks to whoever suggested this software) to move the songs from the PC to the iPod. 4) When I go to the genre selection screen, one of the items is "(89) Bluegrass". I only have about half a dozen songs that were added to "bluegrass", and when I select "All", that's how many it shows me. What does the "89" actually indicate? 5) Are there better headphones available that anybody can recommend? This might mitigate my EQ complaints a little bit. I'm looking for something that's small enough to be portable. 6) I almost ran off the road playing with this thing, so I think I want to get a car adapter do-hicky. None of the cigarette lighter adapters that securely hold the iPod will let me use the protective case that I already bought. Does anyone have any advice here?

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                The white head phones are rubbish. I've had a few sets of the in-ear ones from Sony and they sound great but dont seem to last longer than a year or two.

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                                  It took 7 hours to get 437 songs on my shiny new iPod after cherry-picking songs from the first 100 or so of our 600 CD collection. Observations: 1) The EQ settings are inadequate. Why didn't they implement a EQ that allows the user to set levels for individual frequency ranges? How stupid. 2) The thing weighs quite a bit. 3) iTunes still sucks donkey balls. I am using FreeRip to rip the songs off the CDs to MP3, and then I use SharePod (many thanks to whoever suggested this software) to move the songs from the PC to the iPod. 4) When I go to the genre selection screen, one of the items is "(89) Bluegrass". I only have about half a dozen songs that were added to "bluegrass", and when I select "All", that's how many it shows me. What does the "89" actually indicate? 5) Are there better headphones available that anybody can recommend? This might mitigate my EQ complaints a little bit. I'm looking for something that's small enough to be portable. 6) I almost ran off the road playing with this thing, so I think I want to get a car adapter do-hicky. None of the cigarette lighter adapters that securely hold the iPod will let me use the protective case that I already bought. Does anyone have any advice here?

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  As someone else has mentioned, some Shure headphones will do the sound justice, and you'll never look at EQ settings again. They are almost the same size as the bundled headphones, but almost entirely block outside noise (not advisable for driving a car though!)

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                                    Rob Caldecott wrote:

                                    437 songs. Pah. My current stats are 10,821 songs, which is 805 albums by 378 artists.

                                    I don't just willy-nilly zap an entire CD onto it. Most of the CDs I've bought have maybe one or two decent songs, so I'm cherry-picking. It's looking like it's going to take a couple of weeks to go through our entire CD collection. I anticipate having no more than 2000 songs.

                                    Rob Caldecott wrote:

                                    I'm interested to know what don't you like about iTunes.

                                    It's interface is completely unintuitive to me (I've got 7.2 installed). Maybe I need to buy a book (which is STUPID).

                                    Rob Caldecott wrote:

                                    Guess it depends on the car.

                                    I have a 2004 Crown Victoria. The most advanced part of the sound system is that it uses electricity without me having to use a hand-crank. :)

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    2004 Crown Victoria. The most advanced part of the sound system is that it uses electricity without me having to use a hand-crank

                                    Well aren't you all fancy... :)


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