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How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?
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VuNic wrote:
How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?
As others have said, there is more to look at when choosing a camera than megapixels. The problem is, that digital compacts have a very small sensor size, with a lot of pixels crammed on them (eg, 10mp), so the effect of this is that each pixel will receive less light for a given sensor size than one with fewer pizels on them (eg, 5mp). With each pixel receiving less light, the software algorithm has to work harder to interpret the actual light level of that pixel, and of those around it. This causes "noise" in lower light levels (think of a speckling effect, and is analogous to "grain" that used to be found in high iso films (used for low light). In my opinion, www.dpreview.com[^] is a great site if you want to read camera reviews, but at the end of the day, it depends on what you intend to do with the camera that will determine what is best for you? I.e. - do you want something that will fit in a pocket and you can take everywhere, or are you happier putting a camera bag over your shoulder (or attaching a pouch to your belt). Will you be mostly using it outdoors in good light, or will you need to be able to use it in low light, or with an external flash added? There are many of these variables, and often you don't find out the answers until after you have your camera! Also, most cameras perform adequately in most situations. It's only when you come to specialize in particular areas that you may find some more appropriate than others - e.g. If you particularly want to use a camera in low light (eg, gigs, or evening events), then you would want to find one that has a fast (ie, large aperture, e.g. F1.4 or F1.2) lens, and performs well at high ISO's (eg, 1600, 3200) without too much noise. You would probably find, though, that a camera that fits this spec wouldn't be so appropriate for other situations. It depends on what you intend to do with the final prints, also. I would expect the camera described above to be able to product quality prints at a size of up to A3, but if you are only going to print at 6"x4" (15cm x 10cm) most of the time, then pretty much any compact will do. If you mainly want something that will be easy to use and produce decent holiday snaps and is light and compact to carry, then things like start up time, delay
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Very nice camera... I think that the Sony software is great, more over Vario Sonar or vario tessar lenses from Zeiss are great (you can find detailed information about that in the sony website). If you'll use all the fancy tools that imply being able to make manual pictures, you should know how to do it, for sure if you know how to do it a reflex like camera is the one to choose.
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VuNic wrote:
How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?
As others have said, there is more to look at when choosing a camera than megapixels. The problem is, that digital compacts have a very small sensor size, with a lot of pixels crammed on them (eg, 10mp), so the effect of this is that each pixel will receive less light for a given sensor size than one with fewer pizels on them (eg, 5mp). With each pixel receiving less light, the software algorithm has to work harder to interpret the actual light level of that pixel, and of those around it. This causes "noise" in lower light levels (think of a speckling effect, and is analogous to "grain" that used to be found in high iso films (used for low light). In my opinion, www.dpreview.com[^] is a great site if you want to read camera reviews, but at the end of the day, it depends on what you intend to do with the camera that will determine what is best for you? I.e. - do you want something that will fit in a pocket and you can take everywhere, or are you happier putting a camera bag over your shoulder (or attaching a pouch to your belt). Will you be mostly using it outdoors in good light, or will you need to be able to use it in low light, or with an external flash added? There are many of these variables, and often you don't find out the answers until after you have your camera! Also, most cameras perform adequately in most situations. It's only when you come to specialize in particular areas that you may find some more appropriate than others - e.g. If you particularly want to use a camera in low light (eg, gigs, or evening events), then you would want to find one that has a fast (ie, large aperture, e.g. F1.4 or F1.2) lens, and performs well at high ISO's (eg, 1600, 3200) without too much noise. You would probably find, though, that a camera that fits this spec wouldn't be so appropriate for other situations. It depends on what you intend to do with the final prints, also. I would expect the camera described above to be able to product quality prints at a size of up to A3, but if you are only going to print at 6"x4" (15cm x 10cm) most of the time, then pretty much any compact will do. If you mainly want something that will be easy to use and produce decent holiday snaps and is light and compact to carry, then things like start up time, delay
Very useful one, also I've got a question. Is it a rule that no camera, whatever may be the cost, should never have BlueTooth connectivity? Why no camera has Bluetooth in it ? any specific reasons? :~
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Do you have an SLR ? I was looking at a FujiFilm model, the cost was reasonable.. but hmm.. let's push it down the list now.
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It's not a reflex.
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Very useful one, also I've got a question. Is it a rule that no camera, whatever may be the cost, should never have BlueTooth connectivity? Why no camera has Bluetooth in it ? any specific reasons? :~
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VuNic wrote:
? Why no camera has Bluetooth in it
I can only suppose (I'm only guessing) that it may be something to do with the data transfer rate - how long would it take to transfer 4gb of photos over bluetooth? A decent usb2 card reader and a high speed card probably does it quicker. An alternative, though - the new Nikon (and I suspect Canon) SLR's have optional WIFI attachments that can send the picture to a waiting laptop (or even a waiting newsdesk). Perfect for getting your front page photo on the news-stand first!
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VuNic wrote:
You can get a 1GB stick for 40$ in India, if I'm not wrong.
How does that compare to a 1 GB SD card? 2 GB? 4 GB?
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VuNic wrote:
? Why no camera has Bluetooth in it
I can only suppose (I'm only guessing) that it may be something to do with the data transfer rate - how long would it take to transfer 4gb of photos over bluetooth? A decent usb2 card reader and a high speed card probably does it quicker. An alternative, though - the new Nikon (and I suspect Canon) SLR's have optional WIFI attachments that can send the picture to a waiting laptop (or even a waiting newsdesk). Perfect for getting your front page photo on the news-stand first!
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Chris Buckett wrote:
the new Nikon (and I suspect Canon) SLR's have optional WIFI attachments
They cost a lot, though, around $2,000 (body only) if I recall correctly.
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Very useful one, also I've got a question. Is it a rule that no camera, whatever may be the cost, should never have BlueTooth connectivity? Why no camera has Bluetooth in it ? any specific reasons? :~
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I think Chris is right about it being bandwidth related. BT doesn't have the bandwidth needed for highend gaming mice, and I'd assume a camera would have much higher requirements in that front.
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How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?
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In reply specifically to your link about the SONY camera. (These are my impressions only!) I tried out the precursor of that that camera and didn't like it. I found it was uncomfortable and awkward to hold and use. I also found that the zoom wouldn't focus well beyond about 80% [optically] zoomed, though this may have been fixed in this model. Instead I bought a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ3. It's been a very good camera, though a) it gets a little too noisy in low light for my taste [though still better than many cameras] b) the red-eye reduction works poorly, c) it sometimes doesn't use the flash when it should and d) it's bulky. This last item has annoyed me far more than I thought it would. Were I to buy a digital camera today, I would lean heavily toward the Pentax Optio W30 (or another compact waterproof model.) This would give me cameras for all occasions. Another great review site: http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html[^]
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Chris Buckett wrote:
the new Nikon (and I suspect Canon) SLR's have optional WIFI attachments
They cost a lot, though, around $2,000 (body only) if I recall correctly.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
you can get little Coolpix pocket-sized Nikons with WiFi for well under $300. ex. Nikon P1
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If you want to buy a bridge camera, why don't you go a step further and get yourself a nice DSLR. Some go for as low as $700, lens included (the Nikon D40 for instance).
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How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?
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One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is the battery type - agian it depends partly on how you are going to use the camera. If you are going to take it on holidays where you may find electricity a problem go for one that takes ordinary rechargeable batteries, as opposed to some special custom battery; Personally, I would also suggest these if you are going to use it (nearly) every day, a lot. Constantly having to recharge special batteries is a pain. I am a fan of ordinary rechargeables, while keeping a good stock at hand. Cameras that have their own special rechargeables are better for the occassional user, who can charge them when needed. I would also echo the point about megapixels - if you are "only" going to view your photos on your computer, even 5MB (which is about the smallest you can get nowadays) is more than adequate. If I had a penny for every time a client has sent me a photo saying "please put this on my website", and it's about 5,000 x 4,000 pixels..... Fred
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How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?
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In reply specifically to your link about the SONY camera. (These are my impressions only!) I tried out the precursor of that that camera and didn't like it. I found it was uncomfortable and awkward to hold and use. I also found that the zoom wouldn't focus well beyond about 80% [optically] zoomed, though this may have been fixed in this model. Instead I bought a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ3. It's been a very good camera, though a) it gets a little too noisy in low light for my taste [though still better than many cameras] b) the red-eye reduction works poorly, c) it sometimes doesn't use the flash when it should and d) it's bulky. This last item has annoyed me far more than I thought it would. Were I to buy a digital camera today, I would lean heavily toward the Pentax Optio W30 (or another compact waterproof model.) This would give me cameras for all occasions. Another great review site: http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html[^]
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
Nice, thanks for the review Joe, btw you had DSC-H7? I just found this link that says why we should go for SLR.. Clickety[^]. I think it'll be useful.
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In reply specifically to your link about the SONY camera. (These are my impressions only!) I tried out the precursor of that that camera and didn't like it. I found it was uncomfortable and awkward to hold and use. I also found that the zoom wouldn't focus well beyond about 80% [optically] zoomed, though this may have been fixed in this model. Instead I bought a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ3. It's been a very good camera, though a) it gets a little too noisy in low light for my taste [though still better than many cameras] b) the red-eye reduction works poorly, c) it sometimes doesn't use the flash when it should and d) it's bulky. This last item has annoyed me far more than I thought it would. Were I to buy a digital camera today, I would lean heavily toward the Pentax Optio W30 (or another compact waterproof model.) This would give me cameras for all occasions. Another great review site: http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html[^]
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?
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Having recently purchased 2 cameras, I'll offer my experiences here: The first one I bought was a Canon A710IS for my partner. A little compact thing, 7MP, but with a very handy optical zoom (6x) and optical image stabilisation (it moves the lens around to compensate for vibrations, rather than digitally manipulating the image). It's a very good camera for the price ($400 Aussie Dollars) and takes whatever AA size batteries you can to put in it (NiMH rechargables in it at the moment) It also takes SD cards, and supports SDHC so you can use the higher capacity cards. I'd recommend it for anyone that wants to take happy snaps. It has a full manual mode, which is surprisingly usable if you want to experiment with changing settings, without the expense of going for an SLR type camera. She loves it too, which is as good a recommendation as any. The second camera I bought was a Canon 400D SLR for my mother, with the 17-85 IS USM lens. It's an entry level SLR, but comes with a lot of goodies for the price ($1100 aussie, plus $850 for the lens) It's 10MP, and the zoom is entirely dependant on the lens you put on it. As with any SLR, the quality depends more on the lens than the body, and I chose the 17-85 lens as it's a good allround lens for my mother to learn photography, and has optical image stabilisation, ultrasonic ring motor for the autofocus (which means it's basically silent, fast and can be manually focused, overriding the autofocus setting without switching to manual focus mode) It takes compact flash cards, which are getting quite cheap here, I bought 2 8GB sandisk ultra II cards for AUD$160 each, they'll each store about 1800 pics at full JPG resolution, so they should be more than enough for my mother's coming round the world trip. I chose canon for the SLR because I'm waiting on the Canon 30D replacement and I know a lot of people with canon cameras and equipment (350D's, 20D's, 5D's & 1D's) and when we all get together, having common lenses etc is very handy. Recenty we took a trip to an airshow here with 3 camera bodies and collectively about $25000 worth of lenses (7 or so different lenses). Being able to mix & match bodies and lenses made for some fun times. Realistically the same setup with Nikon / Pentax etc etc is going to allow you to take just as good photos, it all depends on which system suits you best. -- modified at 1:40 Tuesday 19th June, 2007 for spelling
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My camera has a pseudo SLR mode. I've used it occasionally on very bright days when I can't see the screen. Unless you have manual focus an SLR is pretty much a waste of money. Seriously; if you don't like the framing, you can crop the digital image. (And if you want depth of field preview, you better have a lens that supports it. Inexpensive cameras don't.) Were I ever to get back into photography, then it would be important. Of course, I'd also spend well over $2000 for just the camera body.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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VuNic wrote:
How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?
that depends a lot on what you want to do with the images. if you're going to reduce them to 800x600 (or whatever), you don't really need 10M pixels where the original images are going to be 3600x2700 pixels (roughly). you can get away with 6Mp (3000x2000, roughly).
VuNic wrote:
what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one
optical zoom - higher the better. digital zoom is just software resampling that you can do on your PC, so i don't even look at it. the ability to take MPGs is nice. i always want that. i use it at concerts to make recordings (no video, just the audio). image stabilization (to reduce the effects of hand-shake) is nice.
VuNic wrote:
Which brand impresses you most?
i don't have a preference i like my Canon SD630. i liked my Sony P7. the Panasonic/Leica things look nice. -- modified at 13:57 Monday 18th June, 2007
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Chris Losinger wrote:
digital zoom is just software resampling that you can do on your PC
However, if you're doing distance shots of small objects, and you use automatic focussing, the digital zoom is often useful for getting in close enough that the autofocus can 'acquire' the object you're aiming at. This is sometimes an acceptable tradeoff for the loss of image resolution.