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  • E Eytukan

    How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?


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    Fred_Smith
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    One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is the battery type - agian it depends partly on how you are going to use the camera. If you are going to take it on holidays where you may find electricity a problem go for one that takes ordinary rechargeable batteries, as opposed to some special custom battery; Personally, I would also suggest these if you are going to use it (nearly) every day, a lot. Constantly having to recharge special batteries is a pain. I am a fan of ordinary rechargeables, while keeping a good stock at hand. Cameras that have their own special rechargeables are better for the occassional user, who can charge them when needed. I would also echo the point about megapixels - if you are "only" going to view your photos on your computer, even 5MB (which is about the smallest you can get nowadays) is more than adequate. If I had a penny for every time a client has sent me a photo saying "please put this on my website", and it's about 5,000 x 4,000 pixels..... Fred

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    • E Eytukan

      How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?


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      More digital zoom is best.

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      • J Joe Woodbury

        In reply specifically to your link about the SONY camera. (These are my impressions only!) I tried out the precursor of that that camera and didn't like it. I found it was uncomfortable and awkward to hold and use. I also found that the zoom wouldn't focus well beyond about 80% [optically] zoomed, though this may have been fixed in this model. Instead I bought a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ3. It's been a very good camera, though a) it gets a little too noisy in low light for my taste [though still better than many cameras] b) the red-eye reduction works poorly, c) it sometimes doesn't use the flash when it should and d) it's bulky. This last item has annoyed me far more than I thought it would. Were I to buy a digital camera today, I would lean heavily toward the Pentax Optio W30 (or another compact waterproof model.) This would give me cameras for all occasions. Another great review site: http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html[^]

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        Nice, thanks for the review Joe, btw you had DSC-H7? I just found this link that says why we should go for SLR.. Clickety[^]. I think it'll be useful.


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        • J Joe Woodbury

          In reply specifically to your link about the SONY camera. (These are my impressions only!) I tried out the precursor of that that camera and didn't like it. I found it was uncomfortable and awkward to hold and use. I also found that the zoom wouldn't focus well beyond about 80% [optically] zoomed, though this may have been fixed in this model. Instead I bought a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ3. It's been a very good camera, though a) it gets a little too noisy in low light for my taste [though still better than many cameras] b) the red-eye reduction works poorly, c) it sometimes doesn't use the flash when it should and d) it's bulky. This last item has annoyed me far more than I thought it would. Were I to buy a digital camera today, I would lean heavily toward the Pentax Optio W30 (or another compact waterproof model.) This would give me cameras for all occasions. Another great review site: http://www.steves-digicams.com/hardware_reviews.html[^]

          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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          Actual Link[^]


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          • E Eytukan

            How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?


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            Having recently purchased 2 cameras, I'll offer my experiences here: The first one I bought was a Canon A710IS for my partner. A little compact thing, 7MP, but with a very handy optical zoom (6x) and optical image stabilisation (it moves the lens around to compensate for vibrations, rather than digitally manipulating the image). It's a very good camera for the price ($400 Aussie Dollars) and takes whatever AA size batteries you can to put in it (NiMH rechargables in it at the moment) It also takes SD cards, and supports SDHC so you can use the higher capacity cards. I'd recommend it for anyone that wants to take happy snaps. It has a full manual mode, which is surprisingly usable if you want to experiment with changing settings, without the expense of going for an SLR type camera. She loves it too, which is as good a recommendation as any. The second camera I bought was a Canon 400D SLR for my mother, with the 17-85 IS USM lens. It's an entry level SLR, but comes with a lot of goodies for the price ($1100 aussie, plus $850 for the lens) It's 10MP, and the zoom is entirely dependant on the lens you put on it. As with any SLR, the quality depends more on the lens than the body, and I chose the 17-85 lens as it's a good allround lens for my mother to learn photography, and has optical image stabilisation, ultrasonic ring motor for the autofocus (which means it's basically silent, fast and can be manually focused, overriding the autofocus setting without switching to manual focus mode) It takes compact flash cards, which are getting quite cheap here, I bought 2 8GB sandisk ultra II cards for AUD$160 each, they'll each store about 1800 pics at full JPG resolution, so they should be more than enough for my mother's coming round the world trip. I chose canon for the SLR because I'm waiting on the Canon 30D replacement and I know a lot of people with canon cameras and equipment (350D's, 20D's, 5D's & 1D's) and when we all get together, having common lenses etc is very handy. Recenty we took a trip to an airshow here with 3 camera bodies and collectively about $25000 worth of lenses (7 or so different lenses). Being able to mix & match bodies and lenses made for some fun times. Realistically the same setup with Nikon / Pentax etc etc is going to allow you to take just as good photos, it all depends on which system suits you best. -- modified at 1:40 Tuesday 19th June, 2007 for spelling

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              My camera has a pseudo SLR mode. I've used it occasionally on very bright days when I can't see the screen. Unless you have manual focus an SLR is pretty much a waste of money. Seriously; if you don't like the framing, you can crop the digital image. (And if you want depth of field preview, you better have a lens that supports it. Inexpensive cameras don't.) Were I ever to get back into photography, then it would be important. Of course, I'd also spend well over $2000 for just the camera body.

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              • C Chris Losinger

                VuNic wrote:

                How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?

                that depends a lot on what you want to do with the images. if you're going to reduce them to 800x600 (or whatever), you don't really need 10M pixels where the original images are going to be 3600x2700 pixels (roughly). you can get away with 6Mp (3000x2000, roughly).

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                what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one

                optical zoom - higher the better. digital zoom is just software resampling that you can do on your PC, so i don't even look at it. the ability to take MPGs is nice. i always want that. i use it at concerts to make recordings (no video, just the audio). image stabilization (to reduce the effects of hand-shake) is nice.

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                Which brand impresses you most?

                i don't have a preference i like my Canon SD630. i liked my Sony P7. the Panasonic/Leica things look nice. -- modified at 13:57 Monday 18th June, 2007

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                Chris Losinger wrote:

                digital zoom is just software resampling that you can do on your PC

                However, if you're doing distance shots of small objects, and you use automatic focussing, the digital zoom is often useful for getting in close enough that the autofocus can 'acquire' the object you're aiming at. This is sometimes an acceptable tradeoff for the loss of image resolution.

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                • E Eytukan

                  How important is the resolution (Megapix) of a camera?How much of it is needed to make decent picture?.. Ok, what are the significant features you must look into a camera before you buy one. like, Zoom, MP..ect., Which brand impresses you most?


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                  How much are you willing to spend? I ask because a Digital SLR offers much more flexibility than compact models, but usually cost significantly more. I have the Canon Rebel XT 8 MP. I take great sports pictures with a 100-300 zoom lens, and great portraits with my portrait lens. The 50 mm lens is good for wide shots.

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                    How much are you willing to spend? I ask because a Digital SLR offers much more flexibility than compact models, but usually cost significantly more. I have the Canon Rebel XT 8 MP. I take great sports pictures with a 100-300 zoom lens, and great portraits with my portrait lens. The 50 mm lens is good for wide shots.

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                    After seeing the opinions & reviews I'm going to wait a little more and settle for a good SLR thing. Rebel series is really good? My boss always talks little low about it, though he doesnt own one.


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                      Having recently purchased 2 cameras, I'll offer my experiences here: The first one I bought was a Canon A710IS for my partner. A little compact thing, 7MP, but with a very handy optical zoom (6x) and optical image stabilisation (it moves the lens around to compensate for vibrations, rather than digitally manipulating the image). It's a very good camera for the price ($400 Aussie Dollars) and takes whatever AA size batteries you can to put in it (NiMH rechargables in it at the moment) It also takes SD cards, and supports SDHC so you can use the higher capacity cards. I'd recommend it for anyone that wants to take happy snaps. It has a full manual mode, which is surprisingly usable if you want to experiment with changing settings, without the expense of going for an SLR type camera. She loves it too, which is as good a recommendation as any. The second camera I bought was a Canon 400D SLR for my mother, with the 17-85 IS USM lens. It's an entry level SLR, but comes with a lot of goodies for the price ($1100 aussie, plus $850 for the lens) It's 10MP, and the zoom is entirely dependant on the lens you put on it. As with any SLR, the quality depends more on the lens than the body, and I chose the 17-85 lens as it's a good allround lens for my mother to learn photography, and has optical image stabilisation, ultrasonic ring motor for the autofocus (which means it's basically silent, fast and can be manually focused, overriding the autofocus setting without switching to manual focus mode) It takes compact flash cards, which are getting quite cheap here, I bought 2 8GB sandisk ultra II cards for AUD$160 each, they'll each store about 1800 pics at full JPG resolution, so they should be more than enough for my mother's coming round the world trip. I chose canon for the SLR because I'm waiting on the Canon 30D replacement and I know a lot of people with canon cameras and equipment (350D's, 20D's, 5D's & 1D's) and when we all get together, having common lenses etc is very handy. Recenty we took a trip to an airshow here with 3 camera bodies and collectively about $25000 worth of lenses (7 or so different lenses). Being able to mix & match bodies and lenses made for some fun times. Realistically the same setup with Nikon / Pentax etc etc is going to allow you to take just as good photos, it all depends on which system suits you best. -- modified at 1:40 Tuesday 19th June, 2007 for spelling

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                      Do you have sample photos taken with Canon 30D ? just curious to see it.:)


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                      • E Eytukan

                        After seeing the opinions & reviews I'm going to wait a little more and settle for a good SLR thing. Rebel series is really good? My boss always talks little low about it, though he doesnt own one.


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                        The Rebel XT and Xti (newer model) are simply excellent cameras. Maybe your boss has only seen pictures with a bad lens. As with all cameras, the lens has a major bearing on the overall quality. Photography has been a hobby of mine for many years, and this is the BEST camera I have EVER owned. Period. I did my homework on this camera for 9 months before buying it. The ratings were excellent, user ratings were just as high. So, I bought it, and never looked back. But don't take other people's advice. Use their advice (including mine) and do your own homework.

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                          The Rebel XT and Xti (newer model) are simply excellent cameras. Maybe your boss has only seen pictures with a bad lens. As with all cameras, the lens has a major bearing on the overall quality. Photography has been a hobby of mine for many years, and this is the BEST camera I have EVER owned. Period. I did my homework on this camera for 9 months before buying it. The ratings were excellent, user ratings were just as high. So, I bought it, and never looked back. But don't take other people's advice. Use their advice (including mine) and do your own homework.

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                          ednrgc wrote:

                          But don't take other people's advice. Use their advice (including mine) and do your own homework.

                          Nice :). Sure !


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                            Do you have sample photos taken with Canon 30D ? just curious to see it.:)


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                            I'm way out of practice on my gear but here are shots from my EOS30 with a 28-200 USM Canon lens Car Photos I've also shot with older Nikon F90 (35mm) and the EOS 10D. In the end I find it's a question of what you shoot, and what feels comfortable for you UI wise. The Nikon controls to me were great for indoor, but I liked my Canon for outdoor and sport more.

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                              I'm way out of practice on my gear but here are shots from my EOS30 with a 28-200 USM Canon lens Car Photos I've also shot with older Nikon F90 (35mm) and the EOS 10D. In the end I find it's a question of what you shoot, and what feels comfortable for you UI wise. The Nikon controls to me were great for indoor, but I liked my Canon for outdoor and sport more.

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                              Awesome pictures! glossy & glamourous :-O Hmm.. So we need more than one camera for different purposes. Suddenly I've gone crazy over cameras.. weeks back I was stuck with mobiles..now camera. I think something's going on to bankrupt me. :sigh:


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                                My camera has a pseudo SLR mode. I've used it occasionally on very bright days when I can't see the screen. Unless you have manual focus an SLR is pretty much a waste of money. Seriously; if you don't like the framing, you can crop the digital image. (And if you want depth of field preview, you better have a lens that supports it. Inexpensive cameras don't.) Were I ever to get back into photography, then it would be important. Of course, I'd also spend well over $2000 for just the camera body.

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                                Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                Unless you have manual focus an SLR is pretty much a waste of money

                                Point noted.

                                Joe Woodbury wrote:

                                Seriously; if you don't like the framing, you can crop the digital image. (And if you want depth of field preview, you better have a lens that supports it. Inexpensive cameras don't.) Were I ever to get back into photography, then it would be important. Of course, I'd also spend well over $2000 for just the camera body.

                                Thanks for the tips Joe :).. Saved all these messages :cool:


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                                  Awesome pictures! glossy & glamourous :-O Hmm.. So we need more than one camera for different purposes. Suddenly I've gone crazy over cameras.. weeks back I was stuck with mobiles..now camera. I think something's going on to bankrupt me. :sigh:


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                                  Vraxx
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                                  Hehe well yeah SLR photography can become a big monkeysink. In the end I chose going with canon since it suited my style more. But if you're looking to start out I'd echo the same sentiment as an earlier post. Try something like a Rebel XTi with a good lens 17-85 USM for instance. As your needs grow you can buy a larger lens like a 70-300 or 100-300mm

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                                  • E Eytukan

                                    ednrgc wrote:

                                    But don't take other people's advice. Use their advice (including mine) and do your own homework.

                                    Nice :). Sure !


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                                    I just checked the July issue of Consumer Reports and the Rebel is rated excellent. Check out that magazine. They have all classes of cameras (SLR, compact, etc) and ratings for each class.

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