Do u believe in god?
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
In answer to the post title... yes.. kinda. I believe that there is something looking over us. A benevolent omnipotent being perhaps. I dunno. But personally I do believe in "God".
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
No. Jon Sagara "I am in a race. I'm weening!"
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
Yup, I do! Edd wrote: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. What's that got to do with the subject? (believe in god <-> bible's claim of it's relation to god?) And it's not that god dictated the bible (not like koran, I think). As it's been written by humans, it is a testimony of their beliefs and their views concerning god. By the way I can't think of any statement in the bible that says: God is absolutely perfect. Take the flood for example (I dunno what "Sintflut" is in english). This story shows that god could do wrong, but admits it's failure. Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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Yup, I do! Edd wrote: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. What's that got to do with the subject? (believe in god <-> bible's claim of it's relation to god?) And it's not that god dictated the bible (not like koran, I think). As it's been written by humans, it is a testimony of their beliefs and their views concerning god. By the way I can't think of any statement in the bible that says: God is absolutely perfect. Take the flood for example (I dunno what "Sintflut" is in english). This story shows that god could do wrong, but admits it's failure. Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Yeah. Hope this doesn't come true for my test tomorrow..:cool: Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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Yeah. Hope this doesn't come true for my test tomorrow..:cool: Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: Hope this doesn't come true for my test tomorrow.. Whats the test in??? Your doing biology yeah?
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: Hope this doesn't come true for my test tomorrow.. Whats the test in??? Your doing biology yeah?
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
It's a genetics test. But I hope it won't be that hard!:suss: "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. --------- What has the bible to do with god? As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
peterchen wrote: The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. Good point I think. Nobody is 100% rational - i hope:~ "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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It's a genetics test. But I hope it won't be that hard!:suss: "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: It's a genetics test. ouch Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: But I hope it won't be that hard! Hope so. Best of luck in it anyway. Come on afterwards and tell us how you got on :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: It's a genetics test. ouch Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: But I hope it won't be that hard! Hope so. Best of luck in it anyway. Come on afterwards and tell us how you got on :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Brian Delahunty wrote: Best of luck in it anyway. Thanks :-D I'll report in! Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. --------- What has the bible to do with god? As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
peterchen wrote: As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car. My gOd.... you own a ferrari!!!!! WOW... lol :-D ;P
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Brian Delahunty wrote: Best of luck in it anyway. Thanks :-D I'll report in! Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: I'll report in! Good man :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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I would tend to disagree... people that are non-believers are generally more skeptical than those of faith. It's when people become complete drones (i.e. Jack Chick-ites) that you have to worry about them falling for any sort of scam imaginable. -jfaulken When sushi is outlawed only outlaws will have sushi.
jfaulken wrote: I would tend to disagree... people that are non-believers are generally more skeptical than those of faith. It's when people become complete drones Something like commerce-junkies? ;P ;P Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: I'll report in! Good man :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Brian Delahunty wrote: Good man As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition X| I'll report in, of course :-D "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. --------- What has the bible to do with god? As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
I would tend to disagree... people that are non-believers are generally more skeptical than those of faith. It's when people become complete drones (i.e. Jack Chick-ites) that you have to worry about them falling for any sort of scam imaginable. -jfaulken When sushi is outlawed only outlaws will have sushi.
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Brian Delahunty wrote: Good man As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition X| I'll report in, of course :-D "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition I'll report in, of course WEll.. I'm kinda known as the IrishCP Alcoholic around here. You can take my throne if you want!!! :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition I'll report in, of course WEll.. I'm kinda known as the IrishCP Alcoholic around here. You can take my throne if you want!!! :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Great pic in your bio!!;) "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
To answer the simple question, no I don't believe in god/God and haven't for most of my life. My oldest friend is Catholic, his wife became an Anglican Priest a few years ago - divorce is looming after 18 years of happy marriage mainly on religous issues , which only reinforces my own belief that all religion is devisive.:( Believe what you want, just don't force it down others throats and maybe we will all get on a bit better in the world!:rose: JohnJ http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.