Do u believe in god?
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: It's a genetics test. ouch Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: But I hope it won't be that hard! Hope so. Best of luck in it anyway. Come on afterwards and tell us how you got on :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Brian Delahunty wrote: Best of luck in it anyway. Thanks :-D I'll report in! Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. --------- What has the bible to do with god? As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
peterchen wrote: As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car. My gOd.... you own a ferrari!!!!! WOW... lol :-D ;P
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Brian Delahunty wrote: Best of luck in it anyway. Thanks :-D I'll report in! Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: I'll report in! Good man :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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I would tend to disagree... people that are non-believers are generally more skeptical than those of faith. It's when people become complete drones (i.e. Jack Chick-ites) that you have to worry about them falling for any sort of scam imaginable. -jfaulken When sushi is outlawed only outlaws will have sushi.
jfaulken wrote: I would tend to disagree... people that are non-believers are generally more skeptical than those of faith. It's when people become complete drones Something like commerce-junkies? ;P ;P Cheers Martin "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: I'll report in! Good man :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Brian Delahunty wrote: Good man As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition X| I'll report in, of course :-D "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. --------- What has the bible to do with god? As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
I would tend to disagree... people that are non-believers are generally more skeptical than those of faith. It's when people become complete drones (i.e. Jack Chick-ites) that you have to worry about them falling for any sort of scam imaginable. -jfaulken When sushi is outlawed only outlaws will have sushi.
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Brian Delahunty wrote: Good man As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition X| I'll report in, of course :-D "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition I'll report in, of course WEll.. I'm kinda known as the IrishCP Alcoholic around here. You can take my throne if you want!!! :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
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Martin `Lucanus cervus` wrote: As there are pubs all around the university I don't know in what condition I'll report in, of course WEll.. I'm kinda known as the IrishCP Alcoholic around here. You can take my throne if you want!!! :-D
"When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]
Great pic in your bio!!;) "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus!
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
To answer the simple question, no I don't believe in god/God and haven't for most of my life. My oldest friend is Catholic, his wife became an Anglican Priest a few years ago - divorce is looming after 18 years of happy marriage mainly on religous issues , which only reinforces my own belief that all religion is devisive.:( Believe what you want, just don't force it down others throats and maybe we will all get on a bit better in the world!:rose: JohnJ http://www.rainbow-innov.co.uk
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
Yes I believe... but I don´t think that people needs to believe in a vengefull god or sins to be better persons. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:
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Colin Davies wrote: Yes, it seems logical to me. God seems logical to you, or Edd's suggestion seems logical, Colin? Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 Current Addiction : Colin Mcrae Rally 2.0
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Colin Davies wrote: Yes, it seems logical to me. God seems logical to you, or Edd's suggestion seems logical, Colin? Simon I need your clothes, your boots, and your copy of VS.NET. Sonork ID 100.10024 Current Addiction : Colin Mcrae Rally 2.0
Simon Walton wrote: God seems logical Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
Edd wrote: Do u believe in god? If you mean do I believe in a super-human divine being, then no I do not. However, if you mean do I believe there is someone out there watching over me, then yes I do - I know this for a fact 'cause I tied the VAT man up and nailed the bugger to my ceiling... I don't hear him his asking to see my damned receipts now! ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page.
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. --------- What has the bible to do with god? As much as "ferrari news" has to do with my car.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. I don't understand how you came to that conclusion. What I really thought you were going to write was "The problem is, people who stop believing in god, stop believing everything." i.e. Atheists are more skeptical of claims which don't have tangible, solid proof. (Either way, I disagree with both statements.)
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
Edd wrote: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Actually, I'd say either everything it says is true, or it must all be false. Edd wrote: If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. YOu see, you're using convoluted logic to present your case. My case is simple. The Bible says there is a God who answers in specific ways. As I have tested this, and He DID answer, there is a God. No amount of complex argument can stop me from believing in someone I have met. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Edd wrote: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Actually, I'd say either everything it says is true, or it must all be false. Edd wrote: If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. YOu see, you're using convoluted logic to present your case. My case is simple. The Bible says there is a God who answers in specific ways. As I have tested this, and He DID answer, there is a God. No amount of complex argument can stop me from believing in someone I have met. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Actually, I'd say either everything it says is true, or it must all be false. I disagree due to the canonization process of the Bible by man. Christian Graus wrote: As I have tested this, and He DID answer, Yes its an easy test. However others can't experience it through you they must try the test themselves. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
Yes, but not in the existence of any specific god. I accept all religions and follow none. /ravi Help put "civil" back into "civilization" http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com
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Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Take the concept of revenge and forgiveness. These are both related as a result of a common source (reaction to being apparently violated). However it is not hard to see that forgiveness is not a modification of revenge, but an absolute correction (depending on wither you’re a Christian and consequently prefer forgiveness). If this is the case, then the claim that god is absolutely perfect has to be false. From this result one can only come to a conclusion of the above suggestion.
Edd wrote: Do u believe in god? Absolutely. Edd wrote: Suggestion: The bible’s claim of it’s relation to a god is either false, or some or all of its accounts of god are false. OR, its claims are entirely correct but misapplied and misused by people. Argument in favor of the above suggestion: Although the BIBLE provides valuable lessons on a page-by-page basis, it was not meant to be micro-managed. The lesson of the BIBLE is a complete message, not an idividual concept found on any given page. Each book, chapter and verse is intended to support the complete message as well as provide historical and object-lessons. The subject of revenge and forgiveness are entirely compatible in God's eyes. The BIBLE from the very beginning states that evey sin must be paid for. Revenge (actually justice) is applied because of unpaid sin. Forgiveness is available because God provided a way for our sins to be paid for by another (Jesus Christ). So you see, forgiveness is not a correction on God's part. Both concepts were created together and both are results of sin. Unpaid sin receives revenge (justice), paid sins receive forgiveness. Anyway, I could talk about this for hours but I won't.
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The problem is, people who stop believing in god, start believing everything. I don't understand how you came to that conclusion. What I really thought you were going to write was "The problem is, people who stop believing in god, stop believing everything." i.e. Atheists are more skeptical of claims which don't have tangible, solid proof. (Either way, I disagree with both statements.)
A lot of people that don't follow the mainstream religions still look for something to give them spiritual guidance, some reason to why things happen, some mantra to meditate. This can be far from our core understanding of "religion", but still looks very much like an replacement. And be these three things just "pursue happiness", "money drives the world", and "fame, fame, fame". Atheists will by nature be skeptical of everything that *looks* like a religion, but there's more to believe in the world, than religions.
The earth is not dying. It is being killed.
