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  • R realJSOP

    The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    IE6? Jesus, that's no way to treat developers. Or increase enterprise security..

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      The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want. Joe Q

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        I thought you were doing web development. Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I thought you were doing web development. Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code.

        To be more precise, we're doing intranet development, meaning if you're not on the domain, you can't get to the sites we create. The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses (IE7 has been banned, BTW). This eliminates the desire/concern for cross-browser compatibility, and they blindly assume that everyone is using IE6. They want programmers to develop code for them, but it appears as if they don't want them connected to their networks while the code is being developed, yet we also have no vehicle for delivery of said code. I can only describe this with one word, and the first syllable is "cluster". (and before some pedantic little anal pore points out that "cluster" is in fact a two-syllable word, I'm trying to be "funny" - look it up if you need to)

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Hmm, what would Dale Earnhardt say about you're whining? :) (In any case, I always use IE6 - I use FF once in a while, but I'm more used to IE)

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          I'm not whining, I'm pissed off. Oh for crap's sake - this message was intended for adbul (the post just above Christians), but CP is blowing chunks again...

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            I'm not whining, I'm pissed off. Oh for crap's sake - this message was intended for adbul (the post just above Christians), but CP is blowing chunks again...

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            Oh for crap's sake

            You think that perhaps there's a random position generator in this forum? It seems that this happens quite often.

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            • R realJSOP

              I'm not whining, I'm pissed off. Oh for crap's sake - this message was intended for adbul (the post just above Christians), but CP is blowing chunks again...

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              but CP is blowing chunks again

              Or maybe it's your browser ;)

              .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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              • R Rohde

                Pretty nasty if you're doing web dev and the IT department is forcing you to only test/run on one browser. Where do they find these people?


                "When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
                -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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                Rohde wrote:

                .... test/run on one browser

                The company I work for creates their websites (all 18 of them) for IE only, us developers don't like it but thats what they want so we do it.

                "Okay, I give up: which is NOT a real programming language????" Michael Bergman

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                • R realJSOP

                  The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Jerry Hammond
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                  Bawahahaha...but now you are secure! :P

                  "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                  • R realJSOP

                    The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Thats what called company policies;P

                    Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com

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                      Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft?    Man, more and more things like this are the primary reason that I love stuff like the Trinity Rescue Kit (TRK)[^].    Peace!

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                      James R. Twine wrote:

                      Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft?

                      Geez, you don't say. Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.

                      "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I thought you were doing web development. Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code.

                        To be more precise, we're doing intranet development, meaning if you're not on the domain, you can't get to the sites we create. The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses (IE7 has been banned, BTW). This eliminates the desire/concern for cross-browser compatibility, and they blindly assume that everyone is using IE6. They want programmers to develop code for them, but it appears as if they don't want them connected to their networks while the code is being developed, yet we also have no vehicle for delivery of said code. I can only describe this with one word, and the first syllable is "cluster". (and before some pedantic little anal pore points out that "cluster" is in fact a two-syllable word, I'm trying to be "funny" - look it up if you need to)

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses

                        We have a similar situation where I work...except our machines come with Windows 2000 installed, not XP (which effectively bans IE7!). We were still using IE5.5 up until a couple of months ago. The only difference is that our IT lords and masters haven't started deleting other executables from our machines yet, so I still use Firefox :-). They did block access to CodeProject on Tuesday, but I was able to get it unblocked (phew!).

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                        • J Joe Q

                          Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want. Joe Q

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                          Jerry Hammond
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                          Joe Q wrote:

                          Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want.

                          I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!" :-D

                          "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                            Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want. Joe Q

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                            Joe Q wrote:

                            The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures.

                            Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.

                            Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.

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                              James R. Twine wrote:

                              Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft?

                              Geez, you don't say. Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.

                              "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                              Jerry Hammond wrote:

                              Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.

                              Like Christian has already noted - FireFox is the only means by which we can debug javascript. Further, it's real handy to open multiple TABS when you're researching development problems. Before FireFox came out, I usually had as many as a dozen IE windows open, and when IE decides to go tits-up, it takes every other IE window (and sometimes the desktop) with it. At least with FireFox, it will give you the opportunity to restore the last session.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Thats what called company policies;P

                                Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com

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                                Sylvester george wrote:

                                Thats what called company policies

                                No - it's a half-assed knee-jerk reaction to their own inability to secure their servers. It the network admins would do their jobs, and if the government wasn't so persistent in propping up Microsoft, the end users wouldn't have to put up with this crap.

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses

                                  We have a similar situation where I work...except our machines come with Windows 2000 installed, not XP (which effectively bans IE7!). We were still using IE5.5 up until a couple of months ago. The only difference is that our IT lords and masters haven't started deleting other executables from our machines yet, so I still use Firefox :-). They did block access to CodeProject on Tuesday, but I was able to get it unblocked (phew!).

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                                  Every time I hear stuff like this I'm really glad I'm freelance these days. :~

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                                    Joe Q wrote:

                                    Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want.

                                    I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!" :-D

                                    "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                                    Jerry Hammond wrote:

                                    I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!"

                                    It's work, there computer, I just try and get my job done on in spite of our IT department. Sometimes that's hard to do.

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Firefox and IE7 are both no-no's here. However, I have Firefox and they haven't detected it....yet.

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                                        Sylvester george wrote:

                                        Thats what called company policies

                                        No - it's a half-assed knee-jerk reaction to their own inability to secure their servers. It the network admins would do their jobs, and if the government wasn't so persistent in propping up Microsoft, the end users wouldn't have to put up with this crap.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        Amen to that.

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                                          Joe Q wrote:

                                          The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures.

                                          Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.

                                          Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.

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                                          UKCodeMonkey wrote:

                                          Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.

                                          We get the same "You're being watched" notice, too. We don't have the 12pt font thing, but the Windows Explorer folder settings get switched from Details to Thumbnail. Once I came back from lunch and someone (IT) was remoted into my computer, the cursor was moving around and control panel was up. So I unplugged the network cable. I immediatly got a call from an IT guy asking why I unplugged it. I told him becasue it was quicker than powering it down. He didn't laugh but I did.

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