Sometimes, I Hate My Job [modified]
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The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Thats what called company policies;P
Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com
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Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft? Man, more and more things like this are the primary reason that I love stuff like the Trinity Rescue Kit (TRK)[^]. Peace!
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft?
Geez, you don't say. Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
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Christian Graus wrote:
I thought you were doing web development. Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code.
To be more precise, we're doing intranet development, meaning if you're not on the domain, you can't get to the sites we create. The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses (IE7 has been banned, BTW). This eliminates the desire/concern for cross-browser compatibility, and they blindly assume that everyone is using IE6. They want programmers to develop code for them, but it appears as if they don't want them connected to their networks while the code is being developed, yet we also have no vehicle for delivery of said code. I can only describe this with one word, and the first syllable is "cluster". (and before some pedantic little anal pore points out that "cluster" is in fact a two-syllable word, I'm trying to be "funny" - look it up if you need to)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses
We have a similar situation where I work...except our machines come with Windows 2000 installed, not XP (which effectively bans IE7!). We were still using IE5.5 up until a couple of months ago. The only difference is that our IT lords and masters haven't started deleting other executables from our machines yet, so I still use Firefox :-). They did block access to CodeProject on Tuesday, but I was able to get it unblocked (phew!).
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Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want. Joe Q
Joe Q wrote:
Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want.
I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!" :-D
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
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Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want. Joe Q
Joe Q wrote:
The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures.
Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.
Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
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James R. Twine wrote:
Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft?
Geez, you don't say. Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
Jerry Hammond wrote:
Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.
Like Christian has already noted - FireFox is the only means by which we can debug javascript. Further, it's real handy to open multiple TABS when you're researching development problems. Before FireFox came out, I usually had as many as a dozen IE windows open, and when IE decides to go tits-up, it takes every other IE window (and sometimes the desktop) with it. At least with FireFox, it will give you the opportunity to restore the last session.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Thats what called company policies;P
Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com
Sylvester george wrote:
Thats what called company policies
No - it's a half-assed knee-jerk reaction to their own inability to secure their servers. It the network admins would do their jobs, and if the government wasn't so persistent in propping up Microsoft, the end users wouldn't have to put up with this crap.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses
We have a similar situation where I work...except our machines come with Windows 2000 installed, not XP (which effectively bans IE7!). We were still using IE5.5 up until a couple of months ago. The only difference is that our IT lords and masters haven't started deleting other executables from our machines yet, so I still use Firefox :-). They did block access to CodeProject on Tuesday, but I was able to get it unblocked (phew!).
Every time I hear stuff like this I'm really glad I'm freelance these days. :~
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Joe Q wrote:
Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want.
I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!" :-D
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
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The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Sylvester george wrote:
Thats what called company policies
No - it's a half-assed knee-jerk reaction to their own inability to secure their servers. It the network admins would do their jobs, and if the government wasn't so persistent in propping up Microsoft, the end users wouldn't have to put up with this crap.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Joe Q wrote:
The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures.
Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.
Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
UKCodeMonkey wrote:
Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.
We get the same "You're being watched" notice, too. We don't have the 12pt font thing, but the Windows Explorer folder settings get switched from Details to Thumbnail. Once I came back from lunch and someone (IT) was remoted into my computer, the cursor was moving around and control panel was up. So I unplugged the network cable. I immediatly got a call from an IT guy asking why I unplugged it. I told him becasue it was quicker than powering it down. He didn't laugh but I did.
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The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
One of my co-workers had a P2P app
Now that is a silly thing to install at work. Or simply to install at all.
http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.
Precisely. I told a friend of mine that I got an iPod, and he immediately suggested that I install a P2P app to 'take advantage" of all the "free music" that's out there. I laughed at him, and I think I hurt his feelings. Oh well...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001In my previous company, there was a virus running loose on the internet one day which was causing havoc. Can't remember which one. So the IT people decided to force all machines on our Active Directory network to prompt users whenever they visit any website. It got pushed to all machines every half hour or so to be safe. Annoying as hell. So I wrote a script that changed my registry setting to not prompt me and then had it call my browser. Apparently, they kept that up for a few weeks pissing everybody else off, except us developers with full access to our registry. It was management that finally got tired of it and said to remove it. If you wish to keep Firefox, get someone in management hooked on it and then they'll be on your team, hopefully.
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Ed.Poore wrote:
Mozilla Firefox: Portable Edition[^]
installation and/or use of non-authorized software on the system or from transportable media is still forbidden.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I thought you were doing web development. Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code
Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Christian Graus wrote:
Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code
Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!
so why do you keep pushing your apps performance beyond levels that your competition says are impossible? Are you trying to code yourself out of a job? :doh:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer