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  • J Jerry Hammond

    James R. Twine wrote:

    Was there an intelligent decision behind it, or was it an arbitrary decision made by some MCSE that never touched anything outside of Microsoft?

    Geez, you don't say. Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.

    "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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    Jerry Hammond wrote:

    Frankly, if development is for an "intranet" I don't see what all the bellyaching over the lock down is about.

    Like Christian has already noted - FireFox is the only means by which we can debug javascript. Further, it's real handy to open multiple TABS when you're researching development problems. Before FireFox came out, I usually had as many as a dozen IE windows open, and when IE decides to go tits-up, it takes every other IE window (and sometimes the desktop) with it. At least with FireFox, it will give you the opportunity to restore the last session.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    • S Sylvester george

      Thats what called company policies;P

      Regards, Sylvester G sylvester_g_m@yahoo.com

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      Sylvester george wrote:

      Thats what called company policies

      No - it's a half-assed knee-jerk reaction to their own inability to secure their servers. It the network admins would do their jobs, and if the government wasn't so persistent in propping up Microsoft, the end users wouldn't have to put up with this crap.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      • S Stuart Dootson

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        The machines the DOD uses are delivered with XP installed and therefore IE6 is the browser everyone uses

        We have a similar situation where I work...except our machines come with Windows 2000 installed, not XP (which effectively bans IE7!). We were still using IE5.5 up until a couple of months ago. The only difference is that our IT lords and masters haven't started deleting other executables from our machines yet, so I still use Firefox :-). They did block access to CodeProject on Tuesday, but I was able to get it unblocked (phew!).

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        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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        Every time I hear stuff like this I'm really glad I'm freelance these days. :~

        Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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        • J Jerry Hammond

          Joe Q wrote:

          Welcome to the world of the big heartless corporation. The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures. I have a script that resets some of the regestry settings to what I want.

          I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!" :-D

          "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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          Jerry Hammond wrote:

          I have a script that yells, "Fight! Fight!"

          It's work, there computer, I just try and get my job done on in spite of our IT department. Sometimes that's hard to do.

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          • R realJSOP

            The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Firefox and IE7 are both no-no's here. However, I have Firefox and they haven't detected it....yet.

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            • R realJSOP

              Sylvester george wrote:

              Thats what called company policies

              No - it's a half-assed knee-jerk reaction to their own inability to secure their servers. It the network admins would do their jobs, and if the government wasn't so persistent in propping up Microsoft, the end users wouldn't have to put up with this crap.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Amen to that.

              http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.

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              • J jlwarlow

                Joe Q wrote:

                The company I work for has a network script to delete "undesirable" programs (such as FireFox) and to reset your screen saver to sspicscr (scroll through pictures) and then loads up a directory to Company "ra-ra" pictures.

                Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.

                Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.

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                UKCodeMonkey wrote:

                Fortunately my company doesn't remove apps, but every time I logon I get a message saying I'm being watched. The desktop backdrop is the corporate rubbish and the screensaver is the screen lock one only. They also force me to write in 12point text in outlook and word as the CEO has bad eyesight.

                We get the same "You're being watched" notice, too. We don't have the 12pt font thing, but the Windows Explorer folder settings get switched from Details to Thumbnail. Once I came back from lunch and someone (IT) was remoted into my computer, the cursor was moving around and control panel was up. So I unplugged the network cable. I immediatly got a call from an IT guy asking why I unplugged it. I told him becasue it was quicker than powering it down. He didn't laugh but I did.

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                  The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Bob Flynn
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                  I get that every now and then, but in the end our IT department will install something if we explain the need and they get to handle the install. For us it is just a matter of not allowing users to install anything they want without justification.

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                  • R realJSOP

                    The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    One of my co-workers had a P2P app

                    Now that is a silly thing to install at work. Or simply to install at all.

                    http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.

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                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      One of my co-workers had a P2P app

                      Now that is a silly thing to install at work. Or simply to install at all.

                      http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.

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                      Precisely. I told a friend of mine that I got an iPod, and he immediately suggested that I install a P2P app to 'take advantage" of all the "free music" that's out there. I laughed at him, and I think I hurt his feelings. Oh well...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

                        Regards, asxzdf213

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                          The IT department deleted Firefox from my system yesterday, and now I'm forced to use this incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit called IE6. -- modified at 8:43 Thursday 21st June, 2007 I had the day off yesterday, and I was just about ready to send a rather curt email to IT when a co-worker arrived and stopped me. It seems that it wasn't the IT department afterall. One of my co-workers had a P2P app (and FireFox) on his system (the P2P app is BIG no-no), and IT found it. They came up and took his machine. Our local system admin (we have our own system admin because we maintain some of the servers) was afraid that the P2P thing was a FireFox plugin, so he deleted FireFox from my machine just in case. The only plug-in I've ever installed (even at home) is FireBug. I was authorized to install FireFox (as was my co-worker), but we have explicit instructions not to install P2P software *at all*. He will probably be let go because of this. In the mean time, I have to wait for both the system admin and my boss come in to work today before re-installing FireFox (if they'll even let me). (none of this really matters because I still hate my job sometimes and IE6 is still an incomplete, buggy, non-compliant piece of shit)

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          In my previous company, there was a virus running loose on the internet one day which was causing havoc. Can't remember which one. So the IT people decided to force all machines on our Active Directory network to prompt users whenever they visit any website. It got pushed to all machines every half hour or so to be safe. Annoying as hell. So I wrote a script that changed my registry setting to not prompt me and then had it call my browser. Apparently, they kept that up for a few weeks pissing everybody else off, except us developers with full access to our registry. It was management that finally got tired of it and said to remove it. If you wish to keep Firefox, get someone in management hooked on it and then they'll be on your team, hopefully.


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                          • E Ed Poore

                            Mozilla Firefox: Portable Edition[^] :-D

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                            Ed.Poore wrote:

                            Mozilla Firefox: Portable Edition[^]

                            installation and/or use of non-authorized software on the system or from transportable media is still forbidden.

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              I thought you were doing web development. Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code.

                              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code

                              Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              • A Abu Mami

                                Hmm, what would Dale Earnhardt say about you're whining? :) (In any case, I always use IE6 - I use FF once in a while, but I'm more used to IE)

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                                :laugh:


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                                • E El Corazon

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  Point out to them how useful firebug is for working on javascript code

                                  Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  El Corazon wrote:

                                  Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!

                                  so why do you keep pushing your apps performance beyond levels that your competition says are impossible? Are you trying to code yourself out of a job? :doh:

                                  -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                    El Corazon wrote:

                                    Usefullness, performance, quality and/or cost-effectiveness are all irrelevant issues to government contracts. In fact too much of any of those items is a sure sign of getting funding cut, so don't do it!

                                    so why do you keep pushing your apps performance beyond levels that your competition says are impossible? Are you trying to code yourself out of a job? :doh:

                                    -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                    El Corazon
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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    so why do you keep pushing your apps performance beyond levels that your competition says are impossible? Are you trying to code yourself out of a job?

                                    yeah, I know.... I really shouldn't. But I just fill the remaining space with more stuff (the technical term for what I do). Instead of an elephant to do the job of a mouse, I build a thousand mice running here and there and everywhere. :) effectively doing the job better and faster, but offering enough confusion to qualify as DoD. ;P

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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