No More Black Holes?
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Why even teach astronomy or science anymore?
A wise question. It is much better to teach critical thinking than to fill our children's minds with "facts". Marc
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Yeah, I saw that earlier this week. From the article in science news that I read, it would do more then revolutionize astrophysics because it's based on a new theory that contradicts some existing accepted results, but again IANAP. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just that there is a really good chance the media is just blowing this out of proportion.
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It has always been a theoretical construct with evidence that just suggests actual existence. Science is always evolving. It does not pretend to know EXACTLY how the universe functions; anything more is faith.
dighn wrote:
It has always been a theoretical construct
Sadly, "theoretical" is not in the vocabulary of our media or our education system. Unless you talk about creation and the theory of evolution, hahaha. Words are used to serve when they serve, and are omitted when they confuse or require people to think. The political system makes the world black and white while the politically correct would like to make it all a single shade of gray. Color? What's that? It's too threatening. Marc
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It has always been a theoretical construct with evidence that just suggests actual existence. Science is always evolving. It does not pretend to know EXACTLY how the universe functions; anything more is faith.
Precisely! I was reading about global warming and how everyone's so concerned because scientists are so positive its happening that they're mainly all in agreement. Then I found some web sites which throw a bit of logic at that theory and now I dont know what to believe. I think I believe that in 50 years or so scientists will probably have reversed their opinions several times. A lot of good reading on that if you're interested: http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/ http://www.discussglobalwarming.com/blog/ http://gamoonbat.blogspot.com/ to name just a few. So, yea - I believe that they've changed their minds on blackholes.
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Precisely! I was reading about global warming and how everyone's so concerned because scientists are so positive its happening that they're mainly all in agreement. Then I found some web sites which throw a bit of logic at that theory and now I dont know what to believe. I think I believe that in 50 years or so scientists will probably have reversed their opinions several times. A lot of good reading on that if you're interested: http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/ http://www.discussglobalwarming.com/blog/ http://gamoonbat.blogspot.com/ to name just a few. So, yea - I believe that they've changed their minds on blackholes.
TJDEV wrote:
Then I found some web sites which throw a bit of logic at that theory and now I dont know what to believe.
you can either believe that the vast majority of scientists working in the field are illogical, deluded herd-followers, and that the world is teeming with idiot-savant amateur climatologists who can figure it all out without going through the hassle of learning the details, or you can believe the opposite.
TJDEV wrote:
So, yea - I believe that they've changed their minds on blackholes.
the article doesn't say that at all. it says one group published a paper. their conclusions will now be tested by the rest of the cosmologists in the world.
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Black Holes do exist...I see one everytime I open my pay envelope... :rolleyes: :doh: :laugh: Steve
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dighn wrote:
It has always been a theoretical construct
Sadly, "theoretical" is not in the vocabulary of our media or our education system. Unless you talk about creation and the theory of evolution, hahaha. Words are used to serve when they serve, and are omitted when they confuse or require people to think. The political system makes the world black and white while the politically correct would like to make it all a single shade of gray. Color? What's that? It's too threatening. Marc
@Marc haha! i love a good creation joke ;P
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That's the wonderful thing about the scientific method - we have to be willing to put aside commonly held theories (beliefs, if you will) when they can be shown not to fit the observable universe.
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Black Holes do exist...I see one everytime I open my pay envelope... :rolleyes: :doh: :laugh: Steve
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Why even teach astronomy or science anymore?
A wise question. It is much better to teach critical thinking than to fill our children's minds with "facts". Marc
Well, if you wrote your sentence like that: A wise question. It is much better to teach "critical thinking" than to fill our children's minds with facts. it would make sense, too.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Why even teach astronomy or science anymore?
A wise question. It is much better to teach critical thinking than to fill our children's minds with "facts". Marc
Still, one must ask themself--think about if it you will--how will we be able to identify critical thinking skills without the facts to support the conclusions?
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