London 'Terror Attacks'
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One reason that the IRA were so effective is that so many of them were well trained British agents. Since then the security services have outsourced much of the work to foreign an immigrant cheap labour. The quality of the patsies and the 'fundamantalists' has consequently gone down a lot and has now reached the point where it is as you say embarrassing. It all seems to have started to go wrong when Abu Hamza got his hands cut off while working for the British in Afghanistan and of course when they killed off all the generals who had been in charge of the Northern Ireland mess in that helicopter crash they effectively wrote off most of their best G14 terrorists along with them. Our best hope is to clearly demonstrate that fear doesn't work anymore and we are not fooled. Unfortunately before they get the message they're probably going to kill a lot more people. It's time to stand strong and stay together because the victory over state sponsored terror is in sight.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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I'm sorry - the IRA attacks were concentrated in NI because that was where the issue was, and that's where the bombers were. When contrasting two sets of terrorists, to ignore the place in the UK where the majority of the bombs were set off under one of those groups totally misrepresents the situation. Unless you just plain don't care about the Irish, of course.
Craster wrote:
Unless you just plain don't care about the Irish, of course.
You are deliberately ignoring my point and adding an ad hominem? Sweet. It is not simply a question of geography, there were at least 2 opposing groups of terrorists fighting each other in NI. If the BNP starts bombing mosques and the Paras shoot a crowd of Hizb Tarir supporters in Birmingham, get back to me.
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Richard, you're trying to use reason on the unreasonable again... :doh:
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Our best hope is to clearly demonstrate that fear doesn't work anymore and we are not fooled.
Exactly the point I'm trying to make.
You should ask Matthew if you could borrow one of his foil hats. They help to deflect the government's fear rays.
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Richard, you're trying to use reason on the unreasonable again... :doh:
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Stop trying to be sarcastic, and listen to the point. Of course the unsuccessful attacks have the potential to be successful attacks. However, had those attacks been successful, they would have caused widespread terror and panic. What I am saying is that the same effect is being achieved by the over-hysterical reporting of the incidents. People aren't afraid of leaving their homes because of the failed carbombs, they're afraid of leaving their homes because the media and the home office are telling them they should be afraid.
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One reason that the IRA were so effective is that so many of them were well trained British agents. Since then the security services have outsourced much of the work to foreign an immigrant cheap labour. The quality of the patsies and the 'fundamantalists' has consequently gone down a lot and has now reached the point where it is as you say embarrassing. It all seems to have started to go wrong when Abu Hamza got his hands cut off while working for the British in Afghanistan and of course when they killed off all the generals who had been in charge of the Northern Ireland mess in that helicopter crash they effectively wrote off most of their best G14 terrorists along with them. Our best hope is to clearly demonstrate that fear doesn't work anymore and we are not fooled. Unfortunately before they get the message they're probably going to kill a lot more people. It's time to stand strong and stay together because the victory over state sponsored terror is in sight.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
One reason that the IRA were so effective is that so many of them were well trained British agents.
Close but not quite. If you look hard at the evidence you will see that not only were they British agents they were also all ex-McDonald's Hamburglar-costume-wearing employees. Their ring-leader was actually the lead-Ronald-McDonald character in Dublin for 3.1415 years. The money they would make at their day-jobs as McDonald's costume employees would be funneled into the IRA's ultra-secret weapons aquisition program which had direct links with North Korea, Iran and a small cargo-cult colony on Bora-Bora that worshipped Prince Charles as a God (no longer in existence due to forced and brutal conversion to Arian Christianity by a sub-sect of the Vatican, but I won't go into that plot right now). Since the fall of the Bora-Bora colony, the natural successor was, of course, Bin Laden who had spent much of his childhood on Bora Bora where he had developed a deep hatred for Prince Charles, his environmental policies and the West in general. And that's how we got to where we are today.
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Craster wrote:
Unless you just plain don't care about the Irish, of course.
You are deliberately ignoring my point and adding an ad hominem? Sweet. It is not simply a question of geography, there were at least 2 opposing groups of terrorists fighting each other in NI. If the BNP starts bombing mosques and the Paras shoot a crowd of Hizb Tarir supporters in Birmingham, get back to me.
Yeah, that last bit was unnecessary, sorry about that. Remember though, that my point was not about attacks that killed people - it was purely about having the simple ability to create explosive devices that work, and all parties in NI proved that they can do that will significantly more success than the current crop of middle eastern terrorists.
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Stop trying to be sarcastic, and listen to the point. Of course the unsuccessful attacks have the potential to be successful attacks. However, had those attacks been successful, they would have caused widespread terror and panic. What I am saying is that the same effect is being achieved by the over-hysterical reporting of the incidents. People aren't afraid of leaving their homes because of the failed carbombs, they're afraid of leaving their homes because the media and the home office are telling them they should be afraid.
Craster wrote:
, they're afraid of leaving their homes because the media and the home office are telling them they should be afraid.
No they're not, the Brown government is particularly stressing the need to not be afraid and to go about business as usual. They are stressing that these terrorist activities should not discourage people from their daily routine. Look at his statements on BBC, CNN, NYTimes, etc...
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You should ask Matthew if you could borrow one of his foil hats. They help to deflect the government's fear rays.
Red Stateler wrote:
They help to deflect the government's fear rays
That's what they want you to think. An mate of mine who worked as a cleaner in GCHQ tells me that they in fact concentrate the fear rays. Makes sense when you think of it, as only dangerously free minds would think of doing such a thing.
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You should ask Matthew if you could borrow one of his foil hats. They help to deflect the government's fear rays.
I've run out, could you ship me some more from your secret underground factory in Texas staffed by greys please Red ;P
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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Actually, he's not. He's just telling me I'm wrong, and telling me what I must do. That's not reason, that's reasonless dissention.
You know that I know that you know that I know that even Richard knows you're being silly and won't admit that we're collectively right. That's okay. Everyone else knows this too...
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
One reason that the IRA were so effective is that so many of them were well trained British agents.
Close but not quite. If you look hard at the evidence you will see that not only were they British agents they were also all ex-McDonald's Hamburglar-costume-wearing employees. Their ring-leader was actually the lead-Ronald-McDonald character in Dublin for 3.1415 years. The money they would make at their day-jobs as McDonald's costume employees would be funneled into the IRA's ultra-secret weapons aquisition program which had direct links with North Korea, Iran and a small cargo-cult colony on Bora-Bora that worshipped Prince Charles as a God (no longer in existence due to forced and brutal conversion to Arian Christianity by a sub-sect of the Vatican, but I won't go into that plot right now). Since the fall of the Bora-Bora colony, the natural successor was, of course, Bin Laden who had spent much of his childhood on Bora Bora where he had developed a deep hatred for Prince Charles, his environmental policies and the West in general. And that's how we got to where we are today.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Since the fall of the Bora-Bora colony, the natural successor was, of course, Bin Laden who had spent much of his childhood on Bora Bora where he had developed a deep hatred for Prince Charles, his environmental policies and the West in general.
I went to Bora Bora two years ago. My cover was our "honeymoon". In reality I was there to finish off the final fragments of the Nakagawas...The Japanese family that sat as head of the Bora Bora colony, which is less commonly known as the Gloup-Soups. You were probably only aware of some of their more recent acts. You may or may not be aware that they actually bombed Pearl Harbor. Japan itself had nothing to do with it. They established the international military-industrial complex. Now they are no more. There is only me.
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
One reason that the IRA were so effective is that so many of them were well trained British agents.
Close but not quite. If you look hard at the evidence you will see that not only were they British agents they were also all ex-McDonald's Hamburglar-costume-wearing employees. Their ring-leader was actually the lead-Ronald-McDonald character in Dublin for 3.1415 years. The money they would make at their day-jobs as McDonald's costume employees would be funneled into the IRA's ultra-secret weapons aquisition program which had direct links with North Korea, Iran and a small cargo-cult colony on Bora-Bora that worshipped Prince Charles as a God (no longer in existence due to forced and brutal conversion to Arian Christianity by a sub-sect of the Vatican, but I won't go into that plot right now). Since the fall of the Bora-Bora colony, the natural successor was, of course, Bin Laden who had spent much of his childhood on Bora Bora where he had developed a deep hatred for Prince Charles, his environmental policies and the West in general. And that's how we got to where we are today.
Not bad, perhaps you should appy to MI5 to write the 'plot' for the next flase flag attack. You'd better hope they don't f%^& it up with another fake Bin Laden though or you'll be a laughing stock.:laugh:
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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I've run out, could you ship me some more from your secret underground factory in Texas staffed by greys please Red ;P
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
I've run out, could you ship me some more from your secret underground factory in Texas staffed by greys please Red
Why on earth would I do that? I actually manufacture the fear rays. I'd be in breach of contract with Britain.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Since the fall of the Bora-Bora colony, the natural successor was, of course, Bin Laden who had spent much of his childhood on Bora Bora where he had developed a deep hatred for Prince Charles, his environmental policies and the West in general.
I went to Bora Bora two years ago. My cover was our "honeymoon". In reality I was there to finish off the final fragments of the Nakagawas...The Japanese family that sat as head of the Bora Bora colony, which is less commonly known as the Gloup-Soups. You were probably only aware of some of their more recent acts. You may or may not be aware that they actually bombed Pearl Harbor. Japan itself had nothing to do with it. They established the international military-industrial complex. Now they are no more. There is only me.
Red Stateler wrote:
You may or may not be aware that they actually bombed Pearl Harbor.
I had suspected this connection for years! At long last, I have the proof!
Red Stateler wrote:
They established the international military-industrial complex. Now they are no more. There is only me.
The plan proceeds as expected. Find the jade monkey before the next full moon... More communications will follow.
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Actually, he's not. He's just telling me I'm wrong, and telling me what I must do. That's not reason, that's reasonless dissention.
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You know that I know that you know that I know that even Richard knows you're being silly and won't admit that we're collectively right. That's okay. Everyone else knows this too...
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Red Stateler wrote:
You may or may not be aware that they actually bombed Pearl Harbor.
I had suspected this connection for years! At long last, I have the proof!
Red Stateler wrote:
They established the international military-industrial complex. Now they are no more. There is only me.
The plan proceeds as expected. Find the jade monkey before the next full moon... More communications will follow.
73Zeppelin wrote:
The plan proceeds as expected. Find the jade monkey before the next full moon...
The cow was hit by the truck. Hamburgers will rain down upon us with the next lunar eclipse.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
The plan proceeds as expected. Find the jade monkey before the next full moon...
The cow was hit by the truck. Hamburgers will rain down upon us with the next lunar eclipse.
Red Stateler wrote:
The cow was hit by the truck. Hamburgers will rain down upon us with the next lunar eclipse.
Understood. The tin-foil hat is off. The Faithfull target is hot. Repeat; the Faithfull target is hot.