London 'Terror Attacks'
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Rob Graham wrote:
So you would prefer that they had been successful?
No. I would prefer that the scale of response was in some way related to the scale of the threat. We are spending vast sums of money on prevention of terror attacks that are repeatedly failing to materialise. Compare the amount of deaths and injury due to terrorism with the amount of deaths and injury due to dangerous driving, or gang warfare. Then compare the amount of time and money that is being spent on attempting to resolve these issues.
Craster wrote:
We are spending vast sums of money on prevention of terror attacks that are repeatedly failing to materialise.
OR "We are spending vast sums of money on prevention and terror attacks are repeatedly failing to materialise." Isn't that a good thing?
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Craster wrote:
We are spending vast sums of money on prevention of terror attacks that are repeatedly failing to materialise.
OR "We are spending vast sums of money on prevention and terror attacks are repeatedly failing to materialise." Isn't that a good thing?
Mike Mullikin wrote:
OR "We are spending vast sums of money on prevention and terror attacks are repeatedly failing to materialise." Isn't that a good thing?
In the world of anti-logic? No. It's bad.
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Craster wrote:
We are spending vast sums of money on prevention of terror attacks that are repeatedly failing to materialise.
OR "We are spending vast sums of money on prevention and terror attacks are repeatedly failing to materialise." Isn't that a good thing?
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Rob Graham wrote:
So you would prefer that they had been successful?
No. I would prefer that the scale of response was in some way related to the scale of the threat. We are spending vast sums of money on prevention of terror attacks that are repeatedly failing to materialise. Compare the amount of deaths and injury due to terrorism with the amount of deaths and injury due to dangerous driving, or gang warfare. Then compare the amount of time and money that is being spent on attempting to resolve these issues.
Craster wrote:
We are spending vast sums of money on prevention of terror attacks that are repeatedly failing to materialise.
Perhaps you are confusing cause and effect here... Or perhaps you would prefer that the "amateur" terrorists whose early attempts fail just be ignored until they actually succeed in killing a few thousand people?
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Dummy bomb, non-working bomb, or real active bomb. Does it matter? What is the different? The basis of terror is just that - TERROR
Exactly. Therefore, the correct way to render such an attack impotent is to point and laugh at the incompetance. Hysterical reporting and filling the streets with armed police play right into the hands of those aiming to cause terror.
Craster wrote:
Exactly. Therefore, the correct way to render such an attack impotent is to point and laugh at the incompetance.
I can see where you're coming from, but pointing and laughing until something serious happens isn't what's called for here. What's needed is an honest appraisal of their motivation, if it's brain-washing in a Madrasa then something will have to be done as people bought up this way are just not compatible with life in Europe. Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
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Craster wrote:
Exactly. Therefore, the correct way to render such an attack impotent is to point and laugh at the incompetance.
I can see where you're coming from, but pointing and laughing until something serious happens isn't what's called for here. What's needed is an honest appraisal of their motivation, if it's brain-washing in a Madrasa then something will have to be done as people bought up this way are just not compatible with life in Europe. Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
I think a better solution would be to let a terrorist bombing force you to change your vote to the complacent socialist candidate. Right?....Am I right?
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
I think a better solution would be to let a terrorist bombing force you to change your vote to the complacent socialist candidate. Right?....Am I right?
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Democracy frightens you does it?
In Spain, Terrorists dictate democracy. Remember how the other candidate was winning in all the polls. And then terrorists bombed that train station. And then how all you Spaniards got scared and voted for the wussy candidate? Yeah. That's the way to do it!
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Democracy frightens you does it?
In Spain, Terrorists dictate democracy. Remember how the other candidate was winning in all the polls. And then terrorists bombed that train station. And then how all you Spaniards got scared and voted for the wussy candidate? Yeah. That's the way to do it!
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Democracy frightens you does it?
In Spain, Terrorists dictate democracy. Remember how the other candidate was winning in all the polls. And then terrorists bombed that train station. And then how all you Spaniards got scared and voted for the wussy candidate? Yeah. That's the way to do it!
Maybe the Spanish are not as daft as you think and they just voted out the government who's security people supplied the explosives in the first place and killed the patsy bombers to cover it up. Yes in Spain terrorists were dictating democracy but only because they were accidentally voted into power, which is what you get if you start copying the USA. To understand this you need to know that I'm using the non politically correct and original meaning or the word terrorist. Someone who attacks soft targets like civillians with the goal of creating fear amongst the general population usually for political ends. Not the NWO definition of terrorist, anyone who George doesn't like so he puts them on the list.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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Stupid simplistic summing-up there and quite simply incorrect I suggest Google. The people voted based on beliefs not the person with the best hair. Hey, like, do you happen to know what country Spain is in man?
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Stupid simplistic summing-up there and quite simply incorrect I suggest Google.
I don't need to Google it. Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror. Right after the bombings, they switched their vote to the complacent socialist because they were all scared into doing so. You didn't vote on the candidate with the best hair...You voted for the candidate that Islamic terrorists told you to vote for.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Hey, like, do you happen to know what country Spain is in man?
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
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Maybe the Spanish are not as daft as you think and they just voted out the government who's security people supplied the explosives in the first place and killed the patsy bombers to cover it up. Yes in Spain terrorists were dictating democracy but only because they were accidentally voted into power, which is what you get if you start copying the USA. To understand this you need to know that I'm using the non politically correct and original meaning or the word terrorist. Someone who attacks soft targets like civillians with the goal of creating fear amongst the general population usually for political ends. Not the NWO definition of terrorist, anyone who George doesn't like so he puts them on the list.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Ahhhh....Go suck an egg.
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Red Stateler wrote:
I'm still king of the 1-votes. Bow before your master.
I know. You rule the 1 vote demographic. I really can't say more as there's a government mule here telling me to stop speaking my mind. Damned repression...
73Zeppelin wrote:
I really can't say more as there's a government mule here telling me to stop speaking my mind.
Well aren't you special? We only get a donkey over here.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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73Zeppelin wrote:
I really can't say more as there's a government mule here telling me to stop speaking my mind.
Well aren't you special? We only get a donkey over here.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
We only get a donkey over here.
No Kangaroo.
Regards, Satips.:rose:
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Stupid simplistic summing-up there and quite simply incorrect I suggest Google.
I don't need to Google it. Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror. Right after the bombings, they switched their vote to the complacent socialist because they were all scared into doing so. You didn't vote on the candidate with the best hair...You voted for the candidate that Islamic terrorists told you to vote for.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Hey, like, do you happen to know what country Spain is in man?
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
Red Stateler wrote:
Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror.
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB. Wide margin! I don't where you picked that up from. Once the bombs went off Aznar's party immediately started trying to blame it on ETA, this was their downfall and they lost the election. So it wasn't out of fear but a political decision to move away from a warmongering nation and an incompetent and corrupt party. I understand that people expressing themselves at the voting booth (booths which although non-electronic do actually work ;P ) is probably terrifying for you.
Red Stateler wrote:
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners! Adio'
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Corinna John wrote:
, but I can see our rights go to hell.
Oh yeah, you're really being oppressed. Poor, poor oppressed you. Just look at how repressive your life has become. You have food to eat, a roof over your head, medical care, heating in the winter, a car to drive, the ability and freedom to criticise your government and it's policies, the ability to speak your mind without fear of retribution, the ability to come and go as you please, you enjoy relative peace and security...oh wait... Gee, I'm sorry, which rights did you lose, exactly? And yeah, the Madrid, London and 9/11 bombings were quite the shows. Did you have popcorn while you watched them? What's it like enjoying nice popcorn and while people die in a subway tunnel explosion? Bet you had a nice evening on those days, right? -- modified at 8:24 Monday 2nd July, 2007 Awesome! I got a '1 vote'! Somebody apparently feels that their government is actually oppressing them! So, vote 1 and tell me what rights you've lost! And by simultaneously voting '1', you've also implied that you thought the Madrid, London and 9/11 attacks WERE indeed good things. Nice person you are!
You are a fool, what are you missing out on? When was the last time some one oppressed you? I must have missed the reports in the media where the jackbooted thugs were kicking in people's doors and dragging them out in the night..... Just because a bunch of medical doctors weren't smart enough to figure out how to make an effective bomb, don't make the mistake of thinking that all of these people are fools. They do want us dead, our beliefs and the freedom that you claim to value so much are the reason they hate us. They will literally stop at nothing to make their point.
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Red Stateler wrote:
Those are the facts. Just before the election, Spain supported, by a wide margin, the candidate that supported the war on terror.
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB. Wide margin! I don't where you picked that up from. Once the bombs went off Aznar's party immediately started trying to blame it on ETA, this was their downfall and they lost the election. So it wasn't out of fear but a political decision to move away from a warmongering nation and an incompetent and corrupt party. I understand that people expressing themselves at the voting booth (booths which although non-electronic do actually work ;P ) is probably terrifying for you.
Red Stateler wrote:
The one that, I'm ashamed to admit, my grandfather is from.
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners! Adio'
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB.
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh? Just face it. Your people were scared into voting socialist. Terrorism dictated your votes.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners!
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force. I'm here because it's the best country on earth. A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
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So in the past few days, there have been 3 attempted 'terror strikes' in the UK. Two failed carbombs and one distinctly ineffectual flaming car driven at Glasgow airport. Note that the UK Government refers to these as 'foiled attacks' rather than 'failed attacks'. The vowel change is apparently significant, even though security services intervention had nothing to do with the fact that the devices didn't explode. The two carbombs were abject failures, namely down to their inability to fulfill their raison d'etre as a bomb, that being to explode. One of the cars wasn't even anywhere near its intended target - it was parked illegally, so had been towed to an impound. The car on fire left just one person injured - the driver of the vehicle who, on attempting to fuel the blaze with a can of petrol, managed to set his own trousers on fire. The whole thing wouldn't have looked out of place with Benny Hill music playing in the background. In the 80s, the IRA were carrying out a reign of terror marked by carbombs set off with devastating regularity. In the 00s, it seems we are under seige from a battalion of completely retarded incompetents. How many complete failures to make working explosive devices have we had now? If the IRA could do it every single time, how hard can it be, exactly? Without wishing any offence to those who have had friends or family injured or killed in terrorist attacks, is the reaction of government really proportional to the risk to the public that is demonstrated by these failures to kill? Terrorism? I'm not terrified, I'm frankly embarrassed.
Craster wrote:
the driver of the vehicle who, on attempting to fuel the blaze with a can of petrol, managed to set his own trousers on fire. The whole thing wouldn't have looked out of place with Benny Hill music playing in the background.
I travelled through Glasgow Airport yesterday. The building was just a bit singed. It smelled like a BBQ where someone has been a bit overzealous with the lighter fluid.
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