Can someone explain this to me?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
But those incidents would never make it past page three of the local paper precisely because they are so common. Only the uncommon story gets attention.
So it's common people are stabbed to death? :omg::wtf:
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Assisting someone who needs assistance is common. :rolleyes:
Pardon Libby!
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When I saw the story last night there was no mention of the names or colour of the people. I saw it on CNN online. Think and accuse me of whatever pleases you. I don't expect any rational behaviour on this message board.
I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just making a comment about the nature of the discourse. If this had not been something that could be used to promote a generally negative image of the American heartland, it would not have been so widely publicized. Color obviously was purposefully kept out of the story because, well, gee, that would just be so racist and all. But promoting a negative stereotype of Americans in general (meaning white folks) is perfectly acceptable. That is a throughly reasonable and rational observation.
Pardon Libby!
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No surprise. CNN International (and sometimes CNN US) seems to share in the general delight at opportunities to highlight disappointing behavior in the US. That tendency earned it the nickname "Communist News Network" among some.
Rob Graham wrote:
No surprise. CNN International (and sometimes CNN US) seems to share in the general delight at opportunities to highlight disappointing behavior in the US. That tendency earned it the nickname "Communist News Network" among some.
Fox News is apparently in on the communist conspiracy. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287953,00.html[^]
John Carson
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Rob Graham wrote:
A couple of interesting observations: 1. searching for the title on your link results almost exclusively in Australian and Malay archipelago newspapers. The absence of US and European (paricularly the latter) seems surprising. 2. the byline to the aticle is "From correspondents in Wichita, Kansas". Now just how likely is it that an Australian News organization would have regular correspondents in an American backwater like Wichita? Seems a disingenuous way to say "some bloggers sent us this". Why not give the original writers credit?
news.com.au is owned by Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News. It, or at least the newspaper outlets it represents, has been owned by Murdoch for over 40 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Limited[^]
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
of Fox News
Nonetheless, Wichita is a small city of about 350,000 I would be surprised if Fox has any "correspondents" there either. The AP article credits Mark McCormick of the Wichita Eagle (which is not a Fox paper). Why not credit him? Seems like plagiarism of a small sort.
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fat_boy wrote:
I guess the issue here is that LaShanda was black.
I didn't then and still don't now give a fuck about her colour, my issue is with the stupid fucking name she has.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Back in the '80s, among the trailer trash crowd, the name 'Misty Dawn' was very popular. Every other girl baby you met was named 'Misty Dawn'. It drove me crazy. The African-American community is notorious for giving their kids fabricated names like LaShanda. I worked for a guy once who named his baby girl 'Kindling' (like the small bits of wood you burn to start a fire) because his wife and he had seen that name on the name tag of a waitress at some truck stop and liked it. Whatever happened to just naming kids after people in your family - or repsected public figures. That was a wonderful tradition. -- modified at 9:25 Wednesday 4th July, 2007
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Whatever happened to just naming kids after people in your family
IMHO it's a bad idea, it puts an unnecessary pressure on the kid by always reminding him/her a model to emulate or exceed. A kid is not a monument, dammit! If somebody wants to perpetuate the memory of someone, let's make a stele instead of transforming a child as a living reminder.
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Woman left to die on shop floor [^] SHOPPERS in a US convenience store stepped over a woman dying from stab wounds with one stopping only to take a picture on a mobile phone.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Sad isn't it? Some people go around killing their children and themselves, while others wonder in amazement but they do something like this. :sigh: Is Bassham a lispier version of Bassam? :)
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Whatever happened to just naming kids after people in your family
IMHO it's a bad idea, it puts an unnecessary pressure on the kid by always reminding him/her a model to emulate or exceed. A kid is not a monument, dammit! If somebody wants to perpetuate the memory of someone, let's make a stele instead of transforming a child as a living reminder.
Change of fashion is the tax levied by the industry of the poor on the vanity of the rich Fold with us! ¤ flickr
I agree. I'm not big on weird names. However, as long as it rolls off the tongue easily, I'm okay with it.
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And another perfect example of how those who fanatically defend the larger Islamic community againt the actions of a "few", miss no opportunity to use any isolated incident to categorize an entire population when it comes to the US. Fucking hypocrits.
Pardon Libby!
I saw a bumper sticker in Texas that read "I don't have to like Bush to be a republican" ... I thought that was contradicting because most republicans think and act like Bush. If ancient republicans (like Lincoln) were Stallions the present generation of republicans are like mules. If not for all that inherited wealth there wouldn't be a republican party.
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K(arl) wrote:
why is the ethnicity relevant?
Why is 'red state' relevant?
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I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just making a comment about the nature of the discourse. If this had not been something that could be used to promote a generally negative image of the American heartland, it would not have been so widely publicized. Color obviously was purposefully kept out of the story because, well, gee, that would just be so racist and all. But promoting a negative stereotype of Americans in general (meaning white folks) is perfectly acceptable. That is a throughly reasonable and rational observation.
Pardon Libby!
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Because that is how these people usually act
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S76 wrote:
these people
:laugh: Thanks for yet another lesson in lefty tolerance.
Pardon Libby!
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Whatever happened to just naming kids after people in your family
IMHO it's a bad idea, it puts an unnecessary pressure on the kid by always reminding him/her a model to emulate or exceed. A kid is not a monument, dammit! If somebody wants to perpetuate the memory of someone, let's make a stele instead of transforming a child as a living reminder.
Change of fashion is the tax levied by the industry of the poor on the vanity of the rich Fold with us! ¤ flickr
K(arl) wrote:
puts an unnecessary pressure on the kid by always reminding him/her a model to emulate or exceed.
Wow, thats a bad thing?!!!! :omg:
Pardon Libby!
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Woman left to die on shop floor [^] SHOPPERS in a US convenience store stepped over a woman dying from stab wounds with one stopping only to take a picture on a mobile phone.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I saw a bumper sticker in Texas that read "I don't have to like Bush to be a republican" ... I thought that was contradicting because most republicans think and act like Bush. If ancient republicans (like Lincoln) were Stallions the present generation of republicans are like mules. If not for all that inherited wealth there wouldn't be a republican party.
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S76 wrote:
If ancient republicans (like Lincoln) were Stallions the present generation of republicans are like mules. If not for all that inherited wealth there wouldn't be a republican party.
At least they are still recognizable as the same general category of mammel. Democrats no longer even remotely resemble anything derivative of American political traditions. They have essentially become a party committed utterly to the principles of European style social welfare.
Pardon Libby!
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Pardon Libby? Why?
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Because he is a good man. And entirely innocent of everything aside from being a Republican.
Pardon Libby!
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And another perfect example of how those who fanatically defend the larger Islamic community againt the actions of a "few", miss no opportunity to use any isolated incident to categorize an entire population when it comes to the US. Fucking hypocrits.
Pardon Libby!
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All involved were African American; not exactly a demographic known to be of the "Red State" persuasion. [^] Maybe no one helped because her male companion (who vanished before help arrived) said she needed none. Or maybe because they knew the store clerk had called police already.
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Tim's partisan assertion that Kansas being predominately a conservative (Red/Republican) state explains the behavior becomes nonsense if the participants are African American, as they tend to vote Democratic/Left/Blue as a block. But then Tim blames conservatives for every evil there is.
Rob Graham wrote:
But then Tim blames conservatives for every evil there is.
Actually, I don't. But you, Stan, and Espeir sure can dish it out to what you "consider" liberals. So if you're looking for intollarance, why don't you just go look in the mirror?
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I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just making a comment about the nature of the discourse. If this had not been something that could be used to promote a generally negative image of the American heartland, it would not have been so widely publicized. Color obviously was purposefully kept out of the story because, well, gee, that would just be so racist and all. But promoting a negative stereotype of Americans in general (meaning white folks) is perfectly acceptable. That is a throughly reasonable and rational observation.
Pardon Libby!
I like to think it's simpler than that. The news reports anomalies. In most communities, regardless of color or economic strata, a stabbing victim would have everybody with a cell phone calling 911, and everybody else either helping, or running to get help. This case was an anomaly, so it was reported. There is no conspiracy to show the country in a negative light, just the media reporting on the odd bad events in a country that is filled with good.