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  • S Stan Shannon

    Le Centriste wrote:

    On the other hand, we could look at ourselves in the mirror. We sometimes are no better [^].

    Actually, the Klan's complete impotence as a force for any sort of social change reflects nothing but how vastly superior our civilization is to Islamic culture. When their civilization begins treating their extremists in the same way ours does, you might have a point.

    Pardon Libby!

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    Stan Shannon wrote:

    Actually, the Klan's complete impotence as a force for any sort of social change reflects nothing but how vastly superior our civilization is to Islamic culture.

    I think the Klan was very effective in discouraging social change for many decades. I will be surprised if Islamic extremists are equally effective in stopping the spread of pornography.

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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      Actually, the Klan's complete impotence as a force for any sort of social change reflects nothing but how vastly superior our civilization is to Islamic culture.

      I think the Klan was very effective in discouraging social change for many decades. I will be surprised if Islamic extremists are equally effective in stopping the spread of pornography.

      John Carson

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      John Carson wrote:

      I think the Klan was very effective in discouraging social change for many decades. I will be surprised if Islamic extremists are equally effective in stopping the spread of pornography.

      The true story of western civilization has been how markedly resistant it has been to extremist philosophies. We have yet to see Islam's successful resistance to it.

      Pardon Libby!

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      • M Mike Gaskey

        This really makes my head explode - apparently anyone in (some parts of) the Islamic world can decide they have domain over "your" morals.[^]

        Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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        For the average Iraqi, this does not even register on their list of concerns when survival itself is a struggle. Having said that I do hope that this vice does not get a hold in a society that shuns these things, considering that in some areas doors are wide for these types of things to be introduced (i.e. no authority to regulate and some people going back see this as a ‘business opportunity’).

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          For the average Iraqi, this does not even register on their list of concerns when survival itself is a struggle. Having said that I do hope that this vice does not get a hold in a society that shuns these things, considering that in some areas doors are wide for these types of things to be introduced (i.e. no authority to regulate and some people going back see this as a ‘business opportunity’).

          Surah AlFurqan(Ayah 1-34) Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video)

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          no authority to regulate and some people going back see this as a ‘business opportunity’

          I have to agree with you that profiting from pornography is despicable. I think pornography companies are nothing but centres of exploitation.


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            This really makes my head explode - apparently anyone in (some parts of) the Islamic world can decide they have domain over "your" morals.[^]

            Mike The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.

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            What a bunch of weirdos :sigh: Not as serious, In France we have an association close from the christian integrists which asked to close "Second Life"[^]. The advantage to live in a democracy where civil peace reigns and justice works is that their demand was rejected by a court[^].


            Change of fashion is the tax levied by the industry of the poor on the vanity of the rich Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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            • 7 73Zeppelin

              A.A. wrote:

              no authority to regulate and some people going back see this as a ‘business opportunity’

              I have to agree with you that profiting from pornography is despicable. I think pornography companies are nothing but centres of exploitation.


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              And others business aren't?


              Change of fashion is the tax levied by the industry of the poor on the vanity of the rich Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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              • K KaRl

                And others business aren't?


                Change of fashion is the tax levied by the industry of the poor on the vanity of the rich Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                K(arl) wrote:

                And others business aren't?

                Depends what you are exploiting - capitalism is good because it allows for advancement through society and allows the individual to prosper via the capital markets by providing lending opportunities and opportunities to generate wealth. That's good for society because it increases what the economists call "social welfare" (different than stste-welfare). Porn just exploits people - mostly women and forces them to do degrading things for money. Walmart, for example, may exploit people but it's not really "legal rape".


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                  K(arl) wrote:

                  And others business aren't?

                  Depends what you are exploiting - capitalism is good because it allows for advancement through society and allows the individual to prosper via the capital markets by providing lending opportunities and opportunities to generate wealth. That's good for society because it increases what the economists call "social welfare" (different than stste-welfare). Porn just exploits people - mostly women and forces them to do degrading things for money. Walmart, for example, may exploit people but it's not really "legal rape".


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                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                  forces them

                  This has to be proven. For the cases where it is, then it is a rape and the Law should apply.

                  73Zeppelin wrote:

                  degrading things

                  Sex is degrading?


                  Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Syndicalism is the opposite. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    forces them

                    This has to be proven. For the cases where it is, then it is a rape and the Law should apply.

                    73Zeppelin wrote:

                    degrading things

                    Sex is degrading?


                    Capitalism is the exploitation of man by man. Syndicalism is the opposite. Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    K(arl) wrote:

                    Sex is degrading?

                    I think porn is degrading to women. So sex filmed for money, I think is degrading to women. Especially when it is for public consumption.


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                      K(arl) wrote:

                      Sex is degrading?

                      I think porn is degrading to women. So sex filmed for money, I think is degrading to women. Especially when it is for public consumption.


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                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                      I think porn is degrading to women.

                      Don't you think it would be for the women to decide if they find it degradating or not? And especially to the women engaged in porn? They are adult and responsible of their action, so why should your morality applies? Could you also specify what you intend by 'degrading'?


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