I am depressed
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I like their comment that All of our solutions are well documented and easy to understand. Yet their first example (Change.c) has a grand total of three lines of comments. I can't see the average CS student who is lost enough to use this service actually learning anything from it. And take a look at their (more complex) Boolean circuit simulator. Yeah, well documented :laugh:
And then the statement that you will get the maximum number of points. I guarantee all of my teachers would have deducted points for not commenting on this code. [EDIT]Hmm. Threading not working again as I replied to Wjousts post but it seems to favor this post. I did this twice with the same result...[/EDIT]
John
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Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Having worked with a guy who also taught at a local university I can assure you that suddenly seeing a flunking/deadbeat student pump out good solutions raises an eyebrow. I remember a case where that happened with him. The student in question was talked to about plagarism ..
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
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I like their comment that All of our solutions are well documented and easy to understand. Yet their first example (Change.c) has a grand total of three lines of comments. I can't see the average CS student who is lost enough to use this service actually learning anything from it. And take a look at their (more complex) Boolean circuit simulator. Yeah, well documented :laugh:
Wjousts wrote:
Yeah, well documented
Only about 3 or 4 comments through the few files, how lame...
Wjousts wrote:
(more complex) Boolean circuit simulator
I wouldn't call it exactly complex, either... A quick glance at their Circular Queue example, makes it look like it is copied straight out of a data structures book...
"That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi
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And then the statement that you will get the maximum number of points. I guarantee all of my teachers would have deducted points for not commenting on this code. [EDIT]Hmm. Threading not working again as I replied to Wjousts post but it seems to favor this post. I did this twice with the same result...[/EDIT]
John
John M. Drescher wrote:
I guarantee all of my teachers would have deducted points for not commenting on this code.
In my class, I enforce comments on my students. There needs to be some, so anyone can have a good idea of what is going on in the code (me and the student when he/she looks at it in the future assignments). One comment here and there spread over several different files just doesn't cut it in my gradebook :rolleyes:
"That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi
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Yeah, it's obviously a magnet for morons. It just depresses me that they're able to stay in business. I wonder where the work is done, given that it's only $20 an hour. I guess it could be done by other CS students, who actually work. $20 an hour is good money for a student, I'd have tho Better than you'd get from McDonalds.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Yeah but maybe it's a good place to redirect all those who post homework questions here on CP with subject lines like "URGENT!" :laugh:
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Wjousts wrote:
Yeah, well documented
Only about 3 or 4 comments through the few files, how lame...
Wjousts wrote:
(more complex) Boolean circuit simulator
I wouldn't call it exactly complex, either... A quick glance at their Circular Queue example, makes it look like it is copied straight out of a data structures book...
"That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi
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Are you depressed because your homework is [too!] hard (<tease> )? :-O ;P BTW: It's good publicity to put their link on CP God bless, Ernest Laurentin -- modified at 18:56 Friday 6th July, 2007
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Paul Conrad wrote:
I wouldn't call it exactly complex, either...
No, not complex, more complex than the other example. Certainly complex enough to warrant more comments.
Wjousts wrote:
Certainly complex enough to warrant more comments.
Totally. I think complexity of an algorithm or code is based on how knowledgeable a programmer is about the problem at hand. Sure a first year student may find it tough, but a person like me with a Master's in Computer Science and 15+ years industry experience wouldn't find it complex at all. It's in the eye of the beholder kind of thing :-D
"That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi
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Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
From the FAQ Q. Do you support plagiarism? A. Of course not. We will provide you with a well-written sample solution to any problem that you send us, but it's your responsibility to put the effort to learn from it and do your assignments on your own. What do you make of that? Sometimes I answer questions on the C# programming forum just to give an example that the poster can hopefully learn from in writing their own solution. Could that be what they're doing? Or is it more likely that students are simply passing along the solutions as their own without putting in "the effort to learn from it"?
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Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
This particular FAQ, I thought, shows they understand their clientele.
Q. I don't need your service now, but I might need it in the future. A. Then it's probably a good idea to Bookmark Us.BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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J4amieC wrote:
we finally have a worthwhile link for "those" sort of questions in the programming forums
No kidding. I can see it now, a bunch of clickety links to the site :rolleyes:
"That's no moon, it's a space station." - Obi-wan Kenobi
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Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
I think the way this would work would be to have an entire collection of software problems already solved, and to be able to dish them out on request, then there is really no work for most of the questions that would come in. Like someone else already said, 20 dollars an hour would be great for a student of someone like that, but not an experienced developer.
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Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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This particular FAQ, I thought, shows they understand their clientele.
Q. I don't need your service now, but I might need it in the future. A. Then it's probably a good idea to Bookmark Us.BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil PeartExcept they forgot to explain how the user can find the bookmark in the future. :wtf:
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Created by superintelligent people, too. Would you buy code for a queueing system from people who can't spell queue?
System.out.println("Que size is " + pq.size());Everyone should know it's "cue" :rolleyes:
This episode brought to you by the number 5
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Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Just hope all their customers only need help with one thesis, since they can't even spell the plural!
Phil
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Ernest Laurentin wrote:
homework is to hard
Homework is to hard as something is to something else? Or was it your English homework you were talking about? Why doesn't anybody seem to know the difference between "to" and "too" anymore?
And how about that lovely word "thesises" on their home page? Yeccch! (I hope I spelled that right. :))
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Ernest Laurentin wrote:
homework is to hard
Homework is to hard as something is to something else? Or was it your English homework you were talking about? Why doesn't anybody seem to know the difference between "to" and "too" anymore?
Typo, not really a spelling mistake!