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I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
you know whilst i agree that RS et al are wayyyyyyy to far down the road to be taken 100% seriously i do think it's important he exists as he keeps the other side at bay somewhat ... i wouldn't like to see the software world without them around to be the nutty extreme "rebels" just my 2c
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I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig
Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc
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John Cardinal wrote:
the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig
Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc
Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
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Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
:) Ah ok, that's enough information for me. Marc
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Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
goober heads
For non-native english speakers: what's a goober head? It's an insult?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
goober heads
For non-native english speakers: what's a goober head? It's an insult?
Network integrated solutions A practical use of the MVC pattern
Yes, it's a more gentle way of saying someone is an idiot.
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Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time.
Actually, he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java, for those who have never heard of him) - The History of GPL[^]
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Jim Crafton wrote:
goober heads
For non-native english speakers: what's a goober head? It's an insult?
Network integrated solutions A practical use of the MVC pattern
A goober is another name for a peanut... so, a goober head is someone who has something other than brains in his head. Personally, I prefer dough head, but, either works. Tim
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John Cardinal wrote:
the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig
Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
who are those two guys and why boycott them?
Never heard of Lessig, but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time.
Actually, he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java, for those who have never heard of him) - The History of GPL[^]
Ahh, the mind grows fuzzy with age :) I knew he was pissed at someone... :)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
who are those two guys and why boycott them?
Never heard of Lessig, but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.
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John Cardinal wrote:
the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig
Newbie time! Why? I've heard fo the FSF but don't know anything about it, and who are those two guys and why boycott them? Marc
At least RMS seems to be the software developer equivalent of fundamentalist zealots.
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Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
Whoa, whoa... There's no need to get all technical on us.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time.
Actually, he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java, for those who have never heard of him) - The History of GPL[^]
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java
Ironic that Java is now (or is undergoing) GPL'ing.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
he was mostly pissed of at James Gosling (creator of Java
Ironic that Java is now (or is undergoing) GPL'ing.
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I don't know what the angle is on that, but any site / publication that mentions the Free Software Foundation or Richard Stallman or Lawrence Lessig in even a slightly positive manner is something working programmers should boycott and avoid like the plague.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
Why? The eco-system around .NET and Windows is large and growing, supported by one major company, and lots of smaller companies. Lots of programmers making a living using proprietary software. The eco-system around Java and Linux is large and growing, supported by many major organisations, and lots of smaller organisations. Lots of programmers making a living using free and/or open source software. I currently make my living writing .NET code on Windows, but that doesn't mean I keep my head in the sand and ignore a growing section of the IT market. I certainly don't boycott sites which express an alternative to the MS view of the world. It's not like MS has a good track record in anything other than making money by exploiting their O/S monopoly.
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Richard Stallman[^] (sometimes referred to as RMS) is the author of the GPL, written, as far as I can understand, mainly because he was pissed off at some proprietary vendors he was working with at the time. He founded the FSF (I think that's correct) and Lessig[^] is law prof at Stanford that has some connection with FSF as well as tending towards an extremely liberal (if that's the right word) interpretation of copyright. As far as I am concerned they are both goober heads.
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Have you ever written a C compiler? Have you ever written software that has as many users as emacs, gcc and the rest of the gnu collection? It seems a bit weird to call someone with lots of technical achievements a "goober head", especially when you're probably no match to them as a developer. As for the free software movement, RMS is a bit of an extremist but that's a good thing, because it allows us to be "normal". :)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
who are those two guys and why boycott them?
Never heard of Lessig, but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
but RMS should be boycotted mostly because he is the original creator of emacs, which is an evil piece of software. Everybody should be using vim instead.
I sense good old flame war between the users of "very incomprehensible mess" and "Eight megabytes and constantly swapping" coming on :) (I swear by Emacs!)
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Have you ever written a C compiler? Have you ever written software that has as many users as emacs, gcc and the rest of the gnu collection? It seems a bit weird to call someone with lots of technical achievements a "goober head", especially when you're probably no match to them as a developer. As for the free software movement, RMS is a bit of an extremist but that's a good thing, because it allows us to be "normal". :)
Well first of all none of your arguments are relevant - one can be a brilliant programmer and still be an idiot as a person. One doesn't necessarily follow the other. But thanks for the typical sophomoric, Slashdot trail of logic.
mbrezu2 wrote:
Have you ever written a C compiler?
No but I've written a C++ parser to build ASTs, and I've worked at extending the G++ front end - I gave up because the code is such a friggin mess. Hip hip hurray!
mbrezu2 wrote:
written software that has as many users as emacs, gcc and the rest of the gnu collection?
Having a large user base doesn't necessarily mean the software is good. Windows 3.1 had a lot of people using it. Was it any good? Much of the gnu collection of software re-implements the same stupid, half assed unix programs that came before them. This is hardly something to be proud of. GCC is used because it's cost is free - *not* because it's that great of a compiler, and in almost any test I've seen it tends to be at the bottom of the list in terms of capabilities such as compiling speed, generated executable size, executable speed, etc. And some of the large speed bumps in performance and features (take pre compiled headers for example) have come at the hand of the same "evil" proprietary companies like IBM or Apple contributing their *paid* employees' work. RMS may be a smart programmer (anyone who can get LISP to do anything without losing their mind certainly has my intellectual respect), but many/most of his positions outside the field of computer programming are ridiculous if not idiotic.
mbrezu2 wrote:
As for the free software movement, RMS is a bit of an extremist but that's a good thing, because it allows us to be "normal".
Horsecrap!! :) I don't need RMS to "allow" me to do or be anything. I'm quite capable of making up my own mind about things, completely independently of RMS's existence.
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