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Experience means your good?

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  • O outside cosmic

    I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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    Zdenek Navratil
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    25-years of experience? That's a 1-year experience 24 years old. [a quote of a Danish management guru] Btw, I have 30+ years experience ;)

    Regards,  Zdenek


    Nothing is as persistent as a temporary solution (a lesson learned by experience)

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    • O outside cosmic

      I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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      WillemM
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      Depends on how you are doing your job. If you're doing something wrong for several years that makes you an experience bad developer. I think a combination of experience and knowledge on how to do it right is the best you can have.

      WM. What about weapons of mass-construction? "What? Its an Apple MacBook Pro. They are sexy!" - Paul Watson My blog

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      • O outside cosmic

        I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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        Marc Clifton
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        25 years of unplugging the shit in the toilet does not make one a better plumber. Marc

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        • X Xiangyang Liu

          wout de zeeuw wrote:

          the person has a lot of experience in doing it the wrong way

          Now he can even do it (the wrong way) with his eyes closed. :laugh:

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          wout de zeeuw
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          At least one gets more proficient at executing! :-)

          Wout

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          • M Marc Clifton

            25 years of unplugging the shit in the toilet does not make one a better plumber. Marc

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            25 years of unplugging the sh*t in the toilet does not make one a better plumber.

            Maybe it just means you need to change your diet.

            Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            • O outside cosmic

              I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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              Lost User
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              It can give people time to get into bad habits.

              Visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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              • O outside cosmic

                I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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                MikeBeard
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                Nope. Not at all.

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                • O outside cosmic

                  I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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                  ednrgc
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                  There are usually 3 types of programmers. 1. Experienced programmers that can handle any problem in their technology. 2. Experienced programmers that can handle any problem and are perfectly able to adapt with the changing technologies. 3. The hot-shot rookie, that thinks he knows it all. I would pick #2 95% of the time, and pick a #3 that shows signs that he has what it takes to become a #2 over time.

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    25 years of unplugging the sh*t in the toilet does not make one a better plumber.

                    Maybe it just means you need to change your diet.

                    Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                    Maybe it just means you need to change your diet.

                    Indeed. Or chop down the tree whose roots always get into the sceptic line. :) (Hmm, how far can we push this metaphor into total obfuscation?) Marc

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                    • B Beth Mackenzie

                      An individual may only be as good as the philosophies that abide by the nurturing of experience acquired over time or Sh/Hhe could be a genius. Does your colleague believe that you should always hone skill sets to become a better ICT engineer? Does your colleague recommend new sources of info to read? Blogs or books etc?

                      --- Elle A Du Shell

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                      outside cosmic
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                      -+- Beth Mackenzie -+- wrote:

                      Does your colleague believe that you should always hone skill sets to become a better ICT engineer? Does your colleague recommend new sources of info to read? Blogs or books etc?

                      I would say yes. But that does not mean that everybody does...

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                      • O outside cosmic

                        I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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                        outside cosmic wrote:

                        or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years.

                        Your colleague needs to meet some of the IT people I have met over the years...  Your colleague saying that leads me to believe that (s)he does not have enough experience!    Others have already hit on the reality of this, so I will not comment any further.    Peace!

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                        • O outside cosmic

                          I have been having a disagreement with a senior colleague who is insisting that experience is everything in IT Development and if you have been working in IT for a number of years then it makes you a good developer... or in other words you can’t be a bad developer if you have been coding for many years. I just can't see how that makes any sense, is it just me? If you have been doing something for a long time it does not mean you are good at it?

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                          Sathesh Sakthivel
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                          Experience in doing things in the right way is good and to prove his experience.

                          Regards, Satips.:rose: Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Walk beside me, and just be my friend. - Albert Camus

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                          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                            More experience means more exposure and a stronger comprehensive database of realtime problems and elegant solutions.

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                            Sathesh Sakthivel
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                            Absolutely True.

                            Regards, Satips.:rose: Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Walk beside me, and just be my friend. - Albert Camus

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