Changes to the message boards [modified]
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Maybe a weekly vote on those who are abusing. If they are deemed as problems, misfits or just plain obnoxious they are given an increasing severity warning and 3 strikes and your out for a period of time (time-out) or or just outta here. Just a thought, Mike
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin"
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I would be the end to string and a couple of others.
God Bless, Jason
Paul Conrad wrote:
Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
No matter what you do people will winge. My attitude towards the lounge is - it is what it is and we can take it or leave it. It pretty easy to ignore people -- modified at 19:01 Wednesday 18th July, 2007 Why not just do away with post counts, voting, gold / silver stuff and let people build their reputations on their actions?
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I agree with that. Vista - A distant view or prospect. It is MS attempt to be a global evil.
God Bless, Jason
Paul Conrad wrote:
Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going
jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Vista - A distant view or prospect.
Yes, which describes our thoughts at work when the subject of rolling out Vista is brought up... :-> Flynn
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster.
I like this idea. No more Gold because you've posted once and remembered your password three years later.
Chris Maunder wrote:
If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status
The problem with that is that in the current climate a lot of excellent posts in the programming forum are being shot down by the univoter. I've been shot down, Vikram's been shot down, Pete's been shot down - all for no valid reason. I would prefer a voting system that is based on "Click if this answer was useful" style of thing. That way people cannot vote down indiscriminately.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
No more Gold because you've posted once and remembered your password three years later.
Darn! There goes my gold, heh. :) Flynn
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With all of these enhancements and silo-ing of scores, will their be an increase in the quality of those posting prizes? The voting restrictions will really hurt: I had lived in Chicago for a while, and we all knew right from wrong on election day: Vote Early! Vote Often! Caution: this button is active:
_________________________ | . . . . . . . . . . . |\ | . . . . . . . . . . . | | | . EXTERMINATE ALL . . | | | . NON-GOLD POSTERS. . | | | . . . . . . . . . . . | | _________________________ | \________________________\|Touchstone, How else shall we bond?Heyyyyyyyyyyyy the button didn't work!! D.
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
i think i should have exemption for my rugby posts - people have no idea how much time and effort it takes me to write them while ranting and frothing at the mouth - and to top it off there are those here (not to name any names) who don't even FOLLOW rugby (quite a disgraceful situation) who have the cheek to vote on it. The effort required is of course not inconsiderable and thats not to mention the in-depth insightful rugby analysis which is part and parcel of the aforementioned treatise. Bryce of the codeproject S14 rugby column
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Clearly I need to rephrase my posts a little
No, not at all, I think it was perfectly put.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
he means he wont be buying any - a situation we're all too familiar with ;) bryce
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he means he wont be buying any - a situation we're all too familiar with ;) bryce
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bryce wrote:
he means he wont be buying any - a situation we're all too familiar with ;)
I reckon in another 20 or 30 years time we'll still have a chuckle when we heap shit on Maunder over that night.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Call me naive, this might not be a very good thought, but do you think it makes sense to have two categories of message posters in user profiles (I agree it may require quite a few changes) 1. Messages posted in programming message board 2. Messages posted in lounge/soapbox It can help identify people who simply want to increase their message count by posting irrelevant replies/posts(they can be Fixture in lounge but Lurker in programming category). No offense to people who post genuinely good content in lounge and soapboax.
Sohail
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam
Nice One.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam
Good. So that the UniVoter canstop his voting.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day
just check it with that sometimes there are users with differnt names. and there are dynamic IP Address is created when he disconnects the Internwt and re connect. So he can start voting now and then and also he will keep on voting after one minute. So this should be taken care.
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members.
Why not go with the Gold and the Platinum members only.
Regards, Satips.:rose: Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Walk beside me, and just be my friend. - Albert Camus
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No matter what you do people will winge. My attitude towards the lounge is - it is what it is and we can take it or leave it. It pretty easy to ignore people -- modified at 19:01 Wednesday 18th July, 2007 Why not just do away with post counts, voting, gold / silver stuff and let people build their reputations on their actions?
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
As I said before, you should only be able to submit articles if you have been a member for a least a month and have post at least 1 message. If an article receives 10 straight votes of to the bin it goes. Maybe a [Refer programming question] button (again available to gold and above) can automatically redirect a programming question to the relevent forum. Also a [Nuisance Member] button which will alert CP of a member who is constanted being a Nuisance. Maybe a [Burn Thread] button (need to think how this needs to be done). Whatever you decide I hopes it's soon, the three new indian members and becoming very tiresome and I'm now resorting to verbal abuse:sigh:.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam
Nice One.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam
Good. So that the UniVoter canstop his voting.
Chris Maunder wrote:
Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day
just check it with that sometimes there are users with differnt names. and there are dynamic IP Address is created when he disconnects the Internwt and re connect. So he can start voting now and then and also he will keep on voting after one minute. So this should be taken care.
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members.
Why not go with the Gold and the Platinum members only.
Regards, Satips.:rose: Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow; Don't walk behind me, I may not lead; Walk beside me, and just be my friend. - Albert Camus
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Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:
On TS-UK we operate a default policy of keeping new members under moderation until they have a) posted more than 5 messages and b) been a posting member for at least a month. A similar policy in the Lounge could definitely work even here, as casual members rarely post anywhere other than the message boards associated with articles.
I like idea. The single problem is who would be the moderators? Does Chris have enough staff to cover the load or do we elect some volunteers for that status?
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2006, 2007That is indeed the question. Platinum members could certainly have a say, which would spread the load a little.
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Maybe a weekly vote on those who are abusing. If they are deemed as problems, misfits or just plain obnoxious they are given an increasing severity warning and 3 strikes and your out for a period of time (time-out) or or just outta here. Just a thought, Mike
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin"
Time for you (and a number of others) to sit back and take a deep breath. 1) I get the impression that there are one or two who may vote based not upon content, but upon personality conflicts with the poster (my days are indeed numbered!). 2) All an abuser need do is create a CP account with false info (oh my!) and they're off an running with either (1) a shield on their normal uid, or (2) a replacement for it. This is kind of an obvious tactic - used extensively on unmoderated newgroups. Particularly by those who'd posts most would least like to see. Much as I like, at times, to help in fouling the weather, isn't this just a tempest in a teapot? Hey - believe it or not, that little medal on your user info page? It's just a graphic. You can copy the Gold and Platinum ones and print as many copies as you need. Really - for any to which this really matters: they can look at the message post count & the article post count & make their own decisions. It shouldn't be that difficult for someone who's able to accomplish the stupendous feat of writing a real computer program! In what may emphasize the meaning of the expression about "the pot calling the kettle black", isn't all this concern (and calls for penalties and exiles) rather silly? Haven't you yet discovered that those reponses encourage the miscreants you fear? Ignore them - they really will go away. Apologies for using so many trite sayings. Somehow this seemed to be the thread for it.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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Heyyyyyyyyyyyy the button didn't work!! D.
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It didn't? You must be running Microsoft's Windows Vista . (it worked on my machine . . .)
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Quote: I would be the end to string and a couple of others. You would?
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
I[t] should have been it. It would be the end...
God Bless, Jason
Paul Conrad wrote:
Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going
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Satips wrote:
Why not go with the Gold and the Platinum members only.
To stop idiots like you.
P Think of the environment; please don't print this message unless you really need to.
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Time for you (and a number of others) to sit back and take a deep breath. 1) I get the impression that there are one or two who may vote based not upon content, but upon personality conflicts with the poster (my days are indeed numbered!). 2) All an abuser need do is create a CP account with false info (oh my!) and they're off an running with either (1) a shield on their normal uid, or (2) a replacement for it. This is kind of an obvious tactic - used extensively on unmoderated newgroups. Particularly by those who'd posts most would least like to see. Much as I like, at times, to help in fouling the weather, isn't this just a tempest in a teapot? Hey - believe it or not, that little medal on your user info page? It's just a graphic. You can copy the Gold and Platinum ones and print as many copies as you need. Really - for any to which this really matters: they can look at the message post count & the article post count & make their own decisions. It shouldn't be that difficult for someone who's able to accomplish the stupendous feat of writing a real computer program! In what may emphasize the meaning of the expression about "the pot calling the kettle black", isn't all this concern (and calls for penalties and exiles) rather silly? Haven't you yet discovered that those reponses encourage the miscreants you fear? Ignore them - they really will go away. Apologies for using so many trite sayings. Somehow this seemed to be the thread for it.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
Balboos, I personally don't let this situation bother me...I ignore it and I deal with each person individually on there own merit. As you can see my status here at CP is one of a lowly stature and was only suggesting one of many possible solutions to a situation thats seems to be gaining momentum. In other words I come here for the knowledge and the exchange thereof. If I don't deem it worth the time I will go elsewhere. But I find the people I meet here to be genuine and willing to share that knowledge and a joke or two occassionally so I will stay unless asked not to! Your point is well taken! Mike
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin"
