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  • R RoswellNX

    you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set. Roswell:)

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    JimmyRopes
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    RoswellNX wrote:

    you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set.

    Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.

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      I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?

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      Dan Neely
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      Jim Crafton wrote:

      Anyone else hear of this?

      Years ago when the initial push for getting spectrum for digitalTV came about. All the existing broadcast stations got a slice of the digital spectrum free because at the end of the phase out period they'd be returning the analog bandwidth they'd had for years in the past. There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.

      -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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      • J JimmyRopes

        RoswellNX wrote:

        you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set.

        Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.

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        Jim Crafton
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        Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Jim Crafton wrote:

          That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations?

          "Congress has currently set aside $990 million (along with $100 million in administration fees) to fund a set of $40 coupons that consumers can use to buy a basic digital-to-analog converter box before analog signals are shut down in 2009. Under the rules of the program, each eligible household can get up to two of these coupons." You would either need a digital (not necessarily HDTV) receiver or a digital-to-analog converter.

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          Jim Crafton
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          OMG! What a total waste of money :(

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          • J Jim Crafton

            Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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            Minosknight
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            :wtf: I hope you didn't just jinx us all.:laugh:

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            • D Dan Neely

              Jim Crafton wrote:

              Anyone else hear of this?

              Years ago when the initial push for getting spectrum for digitalTV came about. All the existing broadcast stations got a slice of the digital spectrum free because at the end of the phase out period they'd be returning the analog bandwidth they'd had for years in the past. There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.

              -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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              RoswellNX
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              dan neely wrote:

              There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.

              Everyone's opinion got shifted to the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan:rolleyes: Roswell

              "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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              • R RoswellNX

                dan neely wrote:

                There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.

                Everyone's opinion got shifted to the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan:rolleyes: Roswell

                "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                El Corazon
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                RoswellNX wrote:

                to the likes

                does not compute.... I try to ignore them mostly.

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                • M Minosknight

                  :confused: I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...

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                  El Corazon
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                  Minosknight wrote:

                  I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...

                  because business, and military want the bandwidth. In fact the military bandwidth shrunk for many years squeezed by commericial band needs. The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people. Politicians work off votes, it doesn't really matter if you are good or bad at your job, as long as you don't attract negative attention. No one wanted to loose their jobs over promising the RF signal traffic changes without preserving something that the people won't lynch them for. In other words, they hedged their bets in hopes of breaking even.

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                  • E El Corazon

                    Minosknight wrote:

                    I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...

                    because business, and military want the bandwidth. In fact the military bandwidth shrunk for many years squeezed by commericial band needs. The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people. Politicians work off votes, it doesn't really matter if you are good or bad at your job, as long as you don't attract negative attention. No one wanted to loose their jobs over promising the RF signal traffic changes without preserving something that the people won't lynch them for. In other words, they hedged their bets in hopes of breaking even.

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Minosknight
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                    That still doesn't tell me why the government is blowing money on something as trivial as dtv cable boxes...that's fine if they want better bandwidth and all but I sure as hell don't want them to buy everyone a cable box for their tv. I don't care if its votes they want, that makes it even worse, stop using my money for someone elses' entertainment pleasure.

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                    • J Jim Crafton

                      Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.

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                      Patrick Etc
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                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                      unless this forces us to.

                      If anyone had any question why they're doing this.. Ostensibly it's being done to free up the airwaves. Load of bull, there's plenty of spectrum. No, some coalition of technology corporations needed a way to guarantee their newest income stream.

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                      • E El Corazon

                        Minosknight wrote:

                        I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...

                        because business, and military want the bandwidth. In fact the military bandwidth shrunk for many years squeezed by commericial band needs. The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people. Politicians work off votes, it doesn't really matter if you are good or bad at your job, as long as you don't attract negative attention. No one wanted to loose their jobs over promising the RF signal traffic changes without preserving something that the people won't lynch them for. In other words, they hedged their bets in hopes of breaking even.

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        Patrick Etc
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                        El Corazon wrote:

                        The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people.

                        Then why aren't the companies paying the conversion fee?

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                          Lost User
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                          Meh! It's just television... ;) A couple of converter boxes and you'll be all set. Technology marches on...

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                          • J JimmyRopes

                            RoswellNX wrote:

                            you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set.

                            Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.

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                            Matt Newman
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                            JimmyRopes wrote:

                            Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.

                            Not true, there digital OTA converter boxes that take digital broadcast and convert them to a analog friendly signal. In most cases your old antenna analog will function as a digital antenna, but you won't catch a salesman saying that FYI

                            -Matt Newman

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                            • J Jim Crafton

                              Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.

                              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                              Matt Newman
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                              Jim Crafton wrote:

                              Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.

                              It won't, they are still broadcasting in digital over the air. If your tv doesn't have a digital OTA tuner you can buy a box that will do it.

                              -Matt Newman

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                              • J Jim Crafton

                                I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?

                                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                Wjousts
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                                Jim Crafton wrote:

                                Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?

                                Which kind of proves the Senator's point. If you, who I assume is more tech savvy that your regular Joe (or you wouldn't be here) don't know anything about it, then they're not doing a good job of getting everybody up to speed. My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).

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                                • E El Corazon

                                  RoswellNX wrote:

                                  to the likes

                                  does not compute.... I try to ignore them mostly.

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  RoswellNX
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                                  Well, they are the most publicized of the millions of DUI arrests that happen each year, but I think each one of them should be treated equally. As long as they are arrests, not drunk driving related deaths, it's a good thing IMO...although i don't want to hear about them either. Just write the damn ticket.:rolleyes: Roswell:)

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                                  • W Wjousts

                                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                                    Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?

                                    Which kind of proves the Senator's point. If you, who I assume is more tech savvy that your regular Joe (or you wouldn't be here) don't know anything about it, then they're not doing a good job of getting everybody up to speed. My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).

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                                    RoswellNX
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                                    Wjousts wrote:

                                    My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).

                                    i believe you just need to hook up the converter box before the coax line in on the VCR. Roswell

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                                    • P Patrick Etc

                                      El Corazon wrote:

                                      The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people.

                                      Then why aren't the companies paying the conversion fee?

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                                      Patrick Sears wrote:

                                      Then why aren't the companies paying the conversion fee?

                                      It costs 750million (each major candidate) to elect a president. This next one will probably cost 850million. most of that comes from companies donations to make sure YOU pay and not them. :) quid pro quo.

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                                      • M Minosknight

                                        That still doesn't tell me why the government is blowing money on something as trivial as dtv cable boxes...that's fine if they want better bandwidth and all but I sure as hell don't want them to buy everyone a cable box for their tv. I don't care if its votes they want, that makes it even worse, stop using my money for someone elses' entertainment pleasure.

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                                        El Corazon
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                                        Minosknight wrote:

                                        but I sure as hell don't want them to buy everyone a cable box for their tv. I don't care if its votes they want, that makes it even worse, stop using my money for someone elses'

                                        They are not. THE most effective political advertisng is done on TV. They have no interest in yours or their pleasure. :)

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                                        • J Jim Crafton

                                          I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?

                                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Vouchers will be issued ($40 per hosuehold I think) towards buying a digital receiver. No, digital is SD (standard defintion) although there may well be additional HD channels. We make the chips used in those boxes ;) Elaine (semiconducting fluffy tigress)

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