Digital TV
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Anyone else hear of this?
Years ago when the initial push for getting spectrum for digitalTV came about. All the existing broadcast stations got a slice of the digital spectrum free because at the end of the phase out period they'd be returning the analog bandwidth they'd had for years in the past. There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.
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dan neely wrote:
There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.
Everyone's opinion got shifted to the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan:rolleyes: Roswell
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dan neely wrote:
There was much squawking at the time and then everyone forgot about it.
Everyone's opinion got shifted to the likes of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan:rolleyes: Roswell
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Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
to the likes
does not compute.... I try to ignore them mostly.
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:confused: I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...
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Minosknight wrote:
I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...
because business, and military want the bandwidth. In fact the military bandwidth shrunk for many years squeezed by commericial band needs. The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people. Politicians work off votes, it doesn't really matter if you are good or bad at your job, as long as you don't attract negative attention. No one wanted to loose their jobs over promising the RF signal traffic changes without preserving something that the people won't lynch them for. In other words, they hedged their bets in hopes of breaking even.
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Minosknight wrote:
I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...
because business, and military want the bandwidth. In fact the military bandwidth shrunk for many years squeezed by commericial band needs. The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people. Politicians work off votes, it doesn't really matter if you are good or bad at your job, as long as you don't attract negative attention. No one wanted to loose their jobs over promising the RF signal traffic changes without preserving something that the people won't lynch them for. In other words, they hedged their bets in hopes of breaking even.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
That still doesn't tell me why the government is blowing money on something as trivial as dtv cable boxes...that's fine if they want better bandwidth and all but I sure as hell don't want them to buy everyone a cable box for their tv. I don't care if its votes they want, that makes it even worse, stop using my money for someone elses' entertainment pleasure.
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Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
unless this forces us to.
If anyone had any question why they're doing this.. Ostensibly it's being done to free up the airwaves. Load of bull, there's plenty of spectrum. No, some coalition of technology corporations needed a way to guarantee their newest income stream.
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Minosknight wrote:
I wanna know why 900 million dollars is being set aside by the government for DTV box coupons...
because business, and military want the bandwidth. In fact the military bandwidth shrunk for many years squeezed by commericial band needs. The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people. Politicians work off votes, it doesn't really matter if you are good or bad at your job, as long as you don't attract negative attention. No one wanted to loose their jobs over promising the RF signal traffic changes without preserving something that the people won't lynch them for. In other words, they hedged their bets in hopes of breaking even.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people.
Then why aren't the companies paying the conversion fee?
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I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?
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RoswellNX wrote:
you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set.
Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.
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Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.
Not true, there digital OTA converter boxes that take digital broadcast and convert them to a analog friendly signal. In most cases your old antenna analog will function as a digital antenna, but you won't catch a salesman saying that FYI
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Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Exactly. We don't have cable, nor do we plan to any time soon, unless this forces us to.
It won't, they are still broadcasting in digital over the air. If your tv doesn't have a digital OTA tuner you can buy a box that will do it.
-Matt Newman
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I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?
Which kind of proves the Senator's point. If you, who I assume is more tech savvy that your regular Joe (or you wouldn't be here) don't know anything about it, then they're not doing a good job of getting everybody up to speed. My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).
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RoswellNX wrote:
to the likes
does not compute.... I try to ignore them mostly.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Well, they are the most publicized of the millions of DUI arrests that happen each year, but I think each one of them should be treated equally. As long as they are arrests, not drunk driving related deaths, it's a good thing IMO...although i don't want to hear about them either. Just write the damn ticket.:rolleyes: Roswell:)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?
Which kind of proves the Senator's point. If you, who I assume is more tech savvy that your regular Joe (or you wouldn't be here) don't know anything about it, then they're not doing a good job of getting everybody up to speed. My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).
Wjousts wrote:
My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).
i believe you just need to hook up the converter box before the coax line in on the VCR. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA -
El Corazon wrote:
The government made a deal that the companies can have their new RF lanes, but the price is building up the money to convert the general people.
Then why aren't the companies paying the conversion fee?
Patrick Sears wrote:
Then why aren't the companies paying the conversion fee?
It costs 750million (each major candidate) to elect a president. This next one will probably cost 850million. most of that comes from companies donations to make sure YOU pay and not them. :) quid pro quo.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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That still doesn't tell me why the government is blowing money on something as trivial as dtv cable boxes...that's fine if they want better bandwidth and all but I sure as hell don't want them to buy everyone a cable box for their tv. I don't care if its votes they want, that makes it even worse, stop using my money for someone elses' entertainment pleasure.
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Minosknight wrote:
but I sure as hell don't want them to buy everyone a cable box for their tv. I don't care if its votes they want, that makes it even worse, stop using my money for someone elses'
They are not. THE most effective political advertisng is done on TV. They have no interest in yours or their pleasure. :)
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I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?
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Vouchers will be issued ($40 per hosuehold I think) towards buying a digital receiver. No, digital is SD (standard defintion) although there may well be additional HD channels. We make the chips used in those boxes ;) Elaine (semiconducting fluffy tigress)
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I just saw this at Ars: Senator: DTV transition could become a "digital disaster"[^] Now if I understand this right they are saying that anyone with a regular TV will be SOL February 18, 2009? That unless you have a digital TV (which I assume is HDTV) you just won't be able to receive any stations? Is this correct or did I miss something? Anyone else hear of this?
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Really old news. This process started in 1996. Most tv stations completed the changeover to dual digital/analog broadcasting in 2005. :)
-Sean ---- Тихая революция
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RoswellNX wrote:
you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set.
Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.
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RoswellNX wrote:
you just need a digital cable box/converter box, and you are all set.
Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
Unless you don't have cable. It may be surprising but some people still watch broadcast TV, especially in rural areas.
If it's the same as digital TV in the UK, you don't need cable - a selection of digital TV channels are broadcast using (what used to be) analogue frequencies. If you have the appropriate box, you can pick up and decode the signal from the aerial.
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Wjousts wrote:
My question is, can I still use my VCR? And will I be stuck only able to tape the same channel that I'm watching? (Yes, I know I should get a DVR instead).
i believe you just need to hook up the converter box before the coax line in on the VCR. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
i believe you just need to hook up the converter box before the coax line in on the VCR.
Well of course, but I'm betting that it can only decode one channel at a time. So if I want to tape channel 5 while watching channel 10, then I'm SOL. Or if I want to tape channel 5 and then something on channel 6, I'm SOL again because it won't switch automatically. Not to mention that I have to leave the box on sucking down electrons the whole time.