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    Douglas Troy
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    Thought this might be of interest to some of you, so I'm sharing the info: Firewall Leak Tests[^] FYI - I ditched ZA Pro for Comodo[^] Firewall about 1 year ago, and have never looked back. The company itself also offers a host of other products/services that are good.


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      Thought this might be of interest to some of you, so I'm sharing the info: Firewall Leak Tests[^] FYI - I ditched ZA Pro for Comodo[^] Firewall about 1 year ago, and have never looked back. The company itself also offers a host of other products/services that are good.


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      sounds good... d'you have any comparison test for Antivirus like this one ?


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        sounds good... d'you have any comparison test for Antivirus like this one ?


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        Douglas Troy
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        Unfortunately, I do not; but if I find one, I'll be certain to post it.


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          sounds good... d'you have any comparison test for Antivirus like this one ?


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          Yes there is one, I don't recall the name of the site but it was referenced here a few times. They do purportedly unbiased testing of every major anti virus. I went with AVG based on it and hurriedly ditched the free Microsoft whatever it's called that came with Vista also based on it, although I already knew I hated it just from the UI. Found it: http://www.av-comparatives.org/[^] You need to nav a bit around to see the chart etc.


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            Thought this might be of interest to some of you, so I'm sharing the info: Firewall Leak Tests[^] FYI - I ditched ZA Pro for Comodo[^] Firewall about 1 year ago, and have never looked back. The company itself also offers a host of other products/services that are good.


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            Dario Solera
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            Are personal firewall still needed today, especially with all those router with built-in NAT and firewall features? I haven't used a software firewall for years now, and I never had problems...

            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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              Are personal firewall still needed today, especially with all those router with built-in NAT and firewall features? I haven't used a software firewall for years now, and I never had problems...

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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              Douglas Troy
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              When you have users (e.g., children) on your network that would allow the installation of questionable software on their systems, then "Yes", a personal firewall is a must to ensure your PC is well protected. If it's "just you" ... probably not. But I certainly like to know what programs are attempting to connect to the internet ...


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                Thought this might be of interest to some of you, so I'm sharing the info: Firewall Leak Tests[^] FYI - I ditched ZA Pro for Comodo[^] Firewall about 1 year ago, and have never looked back. The company itself also offers a host of other products/services that are good.


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                wout de zeeuw
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                I used comodo a year back or so, but it got confused all the time with .NET apps, and would mix up applications. Did you ever have that problem? Or is that fixed by now?

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                  I used comodo a year back or so, but it got confused all the time with .NET apps, and would mix up applications. Did you ever have that problem? Or is that fixed by now?

                  Wout

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                  Douglas Troy
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                  wout de zeeuw wrote:

                  it got confused all the time with .NET apps, and would mix up applications

                  I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this, and since I don't, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "This problem has been fixed". I've never had a single issue with it.


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                    wout de zeeuw wrote:

                    it got confused all the time with .NET apps, and would mix up applications

                    I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this, and since I don't, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say "This problem has been fixed". I've never had a single issue with it.


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                    Well, one app would try to access the internet, and comodo would point to another random .NET app as being the one trying to attempt the access. And it wouldn't remember my answers either... seemed a bug that lingered for months back then (and/or I'm nuts ofcourse!)

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                      Well, one app would try to access the internet, and comodo would point to another random .NET app as being the one trying to attempt the access. And it wouldn't remember my answers either... seemed a bug that lingered for months back then (and/or I'm nuts ofcourse!)

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                      I've not had nor seen that problem on any of my machines (development or otherwise)


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                        Thought this might be of interest to some of you, so I'm sharing the info: Firewall Leak Tests[^] FYI - I ditched ZA Pro for Comodo[^] Firewall about 1 year ago, and have never looked back. The company itself also offers a host of other products/services that are good.


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                        Hans Dietrich
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                        I see that Comodo has another free product called Comodo BOClean. Have you tried this?

                        Best wishes, Hans


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                          I see that Comodo has another free product called Comodo BOClean. Have you tried this?

                          Best wishes, Hans


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                          Douglas Troy
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                          Yup. I have it installed on my server at home. Works as advertised.


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                          • W wout de zeeuw

                            I used comodo a year back or so, but it got confused all the time with .NET apps, and would mix up applications. Did you ever have that problem? Or is that fixed by now?

                            Wout

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                            Ed Poore
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                            No problems I've come across, the only thing which bugs me (but which makes sense) is when you rebuild an app it asks for permission again (because the file has changed), when you're debugging an app and continuously recompiling its a bit of a PITA.

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                              Are personal firewall still needed today, especially with all those router with built-in NAT and firewall features? I haven't used a software firewall for years now, and I never had problems...

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                              Daniel Grunwald
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                              This test was about the capability of the firewalls to distinguish between good and bad outgoing packets based on from which process they came. IMHO, outgoing firewalls doing per-process filtering are totally useless. If they want to protect trojans already running on the system, they also have to prevent the trojan from using trusted processes (e.g. controlling Internet Explorer with DDE). Modern software firewalls try to detect and prevent such actions. That's why they cause inexplicable bugs in other software and slow down the system.

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                                This test was about the capability of the firewalls to distinguish between good and bad outgoing packets based on from which process they came. IMHO, outgoing firewalls doing per-process filtering are totally useless. If they want to protect trojans already running on the system, they also have to prevent the trojan from using trusted processes (e.g. controlling Internet Explorer with DDE). Modern software firewalls try to detect and prevent such actions. That's why they cause inexplicable bugs in other software and slow down the system.

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                                  No problems I've come across, the only thing which bugs me (but which makes sense) is when you rebuild an app it asks for permission again (because the file has changed), when you're debugging an app and continuously recompiling its a bit of a PITA.

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                                  I hear your pain! Felt it too! My firewall is constantly complaining that my app has changed. It would be useful to have a firewall designed for developers, which not only did the work of a normal firewall but also integrated with the development environment / source control to detect when you were compiling a project. That way you could specify an .exe as being "Under Development" and therefore ignore the .exe. Once the project was checked in, the firewall could then remove the "Under Development" flag, and resume normal firewall activities. Thoughts? j. "...to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to him be glory..."

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                                    I hear your pain! Felt it too! My firewall is constantly complaining that my app has changed. It would be useful to have a firewall designed for developers, which not only did the work of a normal firewall but also integrated with the development environment / source control to detect when you were compiling a project. That way you could specify an .exe as being "Under Development" and therefore ignore the .exe. Once the project was checked in, the firewall could then remove the "Under Development" flag, and resume normal firewall activities. Thoughts? j. "...to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, to him be glory..."

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                                    Ed Poore
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                                    l'll write the VS plugin, you write the firewall ;P

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                                      Well, one app would try to access the internet, and comodo would point to another random .NET app as being the one trying to attempt the access. And it wouldn't remember my answers either... seemed a bug that lingered for months back then (and/or I'm nuts ofcourse!)

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                                      I finally ditched Comodo for this reason (and I also got sick of the pretty, but mouse-only, UI). That was probably 6 months ago, so at least as of then, the problem had not been fixed. It was commonly reported in their forums, if I remember correctly, as part of their OLE protection, but I don't know how accurate that is. Also, it wasn't limited to .NET apps. The random app could be darn near anything that I had run recently, .NET or not.

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                                        I finally ditched Comodo for this reason (and I also got sick of the pretty, but mouse-only, UI). That was probably 6 months ago, so at least as of then, the problem had not been fixed. It was commonly reported in their forums, if I remember correctly, as part of their OLE protection, but I don't know how accurate that is. Also, it wasn't limited to .NET apps. The random app could be darn near anything that I had run recently, .NET or not.

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                                        wout de zeeuw
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                                        Ah, good to hear that, now I know I'm not nuts!

                                        Wout

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