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    Lost User
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    My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

    [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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      My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

      [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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      Christian Graus
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      Lotus sucks.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

        [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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        toxcct
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        lotus notes is at least as crap as what everything is said on Microsoft altogether... :)


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          My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

          [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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          Lotus is the leading edge scrap. Good that even if you are stranded in Domino domination, Outlook can give you a pleasant protection through its gentle 'Domino Connector', which takes all the pain-in-the-a** talking to Lotus.

          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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            Lotus sucks.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            Joe 2
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            Lotus sucks.

            True!! I really had a tough time at work today to get it configured. Whew!! :doh:

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            • L Lost User

              My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

              [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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              Andrew Torrance
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              I have used outlook for years now I use Lotus Notes . By comparison Notes is quirky and poorely designed . As a pure email client outlook is a lot better . But the ease at which Notes supports custom data sources is not to be dismissed even though it again is very quirky and cumbersome . At least you can have several data stores accessable from one place . Ok there are other ways of achieving the same thing but as a business the cost of replacing these data stores with some other solution is probably as or even more important than the pure email client side. If however you are only using it as an email client I would (licence fees aside) dump Notes and go with outlook.

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              • L Lost User

                My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                rollei35guy
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                I worked for a company that used Lotus instead of Outlook. I have no great love for Outlook, but Lotus Notes SUCKS big time. The servers (primary and backup) went down, we were with out e-mail for over a week. Had to negotiate contracts via our personal Yahoo and GMail accounts. Now for sure the server issue was partly because of our 'crack' staff, but a week? This is at a major company too! What a joke!

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                  I have used outlook for years now I use Lotus Notes . By comparison Notes is quirky and poorely designed . As a pure email client outlook is a lot better . But the ease at which Notes supports custom data sources is not to be dismissed even though it again is very quirky and cumbersome . At least you can have several data stores accessable from one place . Ok there are other ways of achieving the same thing but as a business the cost of replacing these data stores with some other solution is probably as or even more important than the pure email client side. If however you are only using it as an email client I would (licence fees aside) dump Notes and go with outlook.

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                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                  Andrew Torrance wrote:

                  At least you can have several data stores accessable from one place

                  Absolutely true. That is one place, Outlook lacks severely. Today when I wanted to create two Notes profiles, it was refusing and 'Rocky' was barking. :-D

                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips

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                  • L Lost User

                    My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                    [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                    Rob Graham
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                    My condolences. Lotus Notes is cruel and unusual punishment and grounds for a "hostile workplace" lawsuit.

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                    • L Lost User

                      My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                      [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                      brianwelsch
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                      Lotus is horrible.

                      BW


                      Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
                      Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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                      • L Lost User

                        My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                        [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        Lotus Bloats? You have my deepest sympathy. I thought HAL had stopped developing/supporting Lotus-Bloat-ware? Outlook is far better and there are, I'm sure, other Open Source alternatives that must be preferable to that piece of execrable shite. Unless, of course, you've already invested millions and can't afford to back out...

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                          My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                          [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                          wout de zeeuw
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                          We used to have nick names for Lotus Notes, like Klotus Notes, I'll let you guys figure out the meaning of 'klote' yourself. As a hint I'll tell you that it's Dutch! :D

                          Wout

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                            Lotus sucks.

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Lotus sucks.

                            ...and blows, of course. X| X| X|

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                              My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                              [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                              S Douglas
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                              ssmerk007 wrote:

                              Do you like it or hate it?

                              Hating it doesn't quiet cover what I truly feel about it. :mad: Useless pile of crap, waste of poor electrons. It doesn't even do email very well, much less anything else... X| walks away grumbling profanities......


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                                My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                                [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                                Jason Henderson
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                                Lotus does a couple of things better than Outlook, but stinks at everything else.

                                "I long for combat!" - Unknown Protoss Zealot

                                Jason Henderson

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                                  We used to have nick names for Lotus Notes, like Klotus Notes, I'll let you guys figure out the meaning of 'klote' yourself. As a hint I'll tell you that it's Dutch! :D

                                  Wout

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                                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                                  It isn't repeatable in the Lounge. I remember reading that a Dutch driver was fined by a judge for shouting at the other driver that hit him. He called him a "klote zakken" (If I remember correctly)


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                                    My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                                    [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                                    Luke Lovegrove
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                                    It's really a no brainer for me - Outlook every time. Bloated Notes just has way, way too many proprietary quirks for me. Unfortunately, it would be way to expensive to convert over to anything else for the really big companies - both in terms of software cost and re-training staff to use new software to cover everything that Notes does. Words cannot begin to describe how much I disliked using it. For simple email, I'd probably choose something like Pine over Notes if Outlook wasn't an option.

                                    ------------------------ Luke Lovegrove ------------------------

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                                      My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                                      [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                                      NormDroid
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                                      Lotus, used once, never again.

                                      Roger Irrelevant "he's completely hatstand"

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                                        My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                                        [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                                        Douglas Troy
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                                        Lotus is what happens to all the bad PCs that go to hell ... :rolleyes:


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                                        • L Lost User

                                          My company (70,000+ employees) is too cheap to go with Outlook, so they have a long standing contract with IBM to use Lotus Notes for all the messaging and calendar stuff. However, I prefer Outlook. So what are you using? Do you like it or hate it?

                                          [ Don't do today what can be done tomorrow!! ;) ]

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                                          David Crow
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                                          ssmerk007 wrote:

                                          So what are you using?

                                          Outlook client. Domino server.


                                          "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                                          "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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