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    code frog 0
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    Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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      Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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      Pretty clever of them to predict this would be the date without knowing about the Gregorian calendar reform[^]

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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        Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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        I used to be certain that 2012 would bring the end of the world. But then that note by Newton predicting the world would not end before 2060 came out a few months ago. I let out a sigh of relief.

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          Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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          That better not be the last day! I'll be pissed if the world ends just a few days before I get my Christmas presents that year! :mad:

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            That better not be the last day! I'll be pissed if the world ends just a few days before I get my Christmas presents that year! :mad:

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            Josh Smith wrote:

            I'll be pissed if the world ends just a few days before I get my Christmas presents that year!

            If your glass is half full however, you could save money by not buying Christmas presents for anyone that year...


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              Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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              Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:


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                Josh Smith wrote:

                I'll be pissed if the world ends just a few days before I get my Christmas presents that year!

                If your glass is half full however, you could save money by not buying Christmas presents for anyone that year...


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                Miszou wrote:

                If your glass is half full however

                If I have a half glass of something (perhaps a single malt scotch) and the world's about to end, I'll have an empty glass soon enough! :)

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                  Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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                  It wasn't the Aztecs, but the Mayas. And they didn't predicted a cataclysm nor the end of the world. See, they have two calendars. One composed of 360 days + 5 holly days and another one composed by 52 years. The second calendar, is a holly one. After the a cycle is completed, Mayans thought that their gods were up to decide whether to allow life or end the world. They celebrated rituals, etcetcetc. Each cycle in the holly calendar had a name. For example, the year 1-Canne. Etc. So they made many calculations, and they stopped them at this date in 2012 (BTW you don't need to know Gregorian calendar, only to make an extrapolation of dates between their calendar to Gregorian calendar). Why they did stop? Many believe that they were predicting the end of the world. Others, that a big event that will change humanity will take place. I believe that they ran out of paper. They didn't stated: "they world shall end at 2012". It's up to believers.

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                    It wasn't the Aztecs, but the Mayas. And they didn't predicted a cataclysm nor the end of the world. See, they have two calendars. One composed of 360 days + 5 holly days and another one composed by 52 years. The second calendar, is a holly one. After the a cycle is completed, Mayans thought that their gods were up to decide whether to allow life or end the world. They celebrated rituals, etcetcetc. Each cycle in the holly calendar had a name. For example, the year 1-Canne. Etc. So they made many calculations, and they stopped them at this date in 2012 (BTW you don't need to know Gregorian calendar, only to make an extrapolation of dates between their calendar to Gregorian calendar). Why they did stop? Many believe that they were predicting the end of the world. Others, that a big event that will change humanity will take place. I believe that they ran out of paper. They didn't stated: "they world shall end at 2012". It's up to believers.

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                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                    I believe that they ran out of paper.

                    :laugh:

                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                    and they stopped them at this date in 2012

                    This is what I remember about it also, the end of their calculations, read into that what you will. Except I had remembered the year as 2013. I've been planning on this for a long time, so now I just lost a year! :confused: BDF

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                      Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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                      Um. That's my birthday. :~

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                        Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:


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                        Without fail I will be sitting here at work wondering if it's time to go home yet only to look up at the clock and see 4:04. :laugh: Seriously. I think my peripheral vision is playing tricks on me. :-D

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                          Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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                          code-frog wrote:

                          It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it

                          You should be smart enough to know not to buy any of it. It's all nonsense.

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                            Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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                            12-21-2112 can be more acceptable for me: 1) The numbers that indicates that day are a nice combination of 1 and 2:) 2) No need to buy Christmas gifts:-D 3) I'll be surely died that day:laugh:


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                              Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.

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                              code-frog wrote:

                              I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm?

                              First off, the idea that these societies were "separated" is falling apart. We know now that western tribes were influenced by Chinese immigration by both land and sea. Eastern tribes were influenced by European Vikings and there is even some debate about earlier influences. Hopis are believed to be decendants of Anasazi, the Anasazi already believed in several earlier "world changes" just as the Navajo did. Whatever happened to the Anasazi the resulting puebloes searched out other tribes for contact and trade to survive future problems, resulting in more contact with and more influence by other tribes. Thus the idea that some "magical coincidence" of the same number coming up is irrelevant given the possibility that the number could have the same original source who ever that was. The Hopi and Navajo, depending on translation, do not believe in a disaster, but a world change. One of those came with the landing of the Spanish, one other probably was a disaster, but localized, being a period of heavy volcanic activity in the southwest. But other groups were not involved, but stories spread through contact. Thus we are on the Hopi "Fourth World." We are still here. There is no reason to believe that the "Fifth world" will be anything but "different" -- we will all "probably" be here. But, again, that is assuming prediction is possible and a 3000 year old carving is still accurate today, and interpreted correctly. That is a lot of assumption. But, the assumption that all these societies came up with the same number out of coincidence and indepently, is most probably wrong. There was too much chance of leak of influence via the north american continent to allow for any society to loosly influence another.

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                                Pretty clever of them to predict this would be the date without knowing about the Gregorian calendar reform[^]

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                Ah caught out, the chinese didn't see that coming:~

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                                  Without fail I will be sitting here at work wondering if it's time to go home yet only to look up at the clock and see 4:04. :laugh: Seriously. I think my peripheral vision is playing tricks on me. :-D

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                                  4:04, around here, means 'Motivation not found'. :rolleyes:

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                                    Um. That's my birthday. :~

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                                    David Stone wrote:

                                    That's my birthday.

                                    Now we know the cause!!! EVERYONE GET HIM!!! ;P

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                                      Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:


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                                      Douglas Troy wrote:

                                      How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11

                                      For a while, I kept checking the time at 12:34.

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                                        Um. That's my birthday. :~

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                                        Pretty good trick, posting over a decade before your birth... ;P

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                                          Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:


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                                          Douglas Troy wrote:

                                          How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11

                                          I looked and saw 1:02:34... does that mean I graduated back to kindergarten and counting lessons?

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