12-21-2012
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Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:
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Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLWithout fail I will be sitting here at work wondering if it's time to go home yet only to look up at the clock and see 4:04. :laugh: Seriously. I think my peripheral vision is playing tricks on me. :-D
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Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.
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Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.
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Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.
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code-frog wrote:
I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm?
First off, the idea that these societies were "separated" is falling apart. We know now that western tribes were influenced by Chinese immigration by both land and sea. Eastern tribes were influenced by European Vikings and there is even some debate about earlier influences. Hopis are believed to be decendants of Anasazi, the Anasazi already believed in several earlier "world changes" just as the Navajo did. Whatever happened to the Anasazi the resulting puebloes searched out other tribes for contact and trade to survive future problems, resulting in more contact with and more influence by other tribes. Thus the idea that some "magical coincidence" of the same number coming up is irrelevant given the possibility that the number could have the same original source who ever that was. The Hopi and Navajo, depending on translation, do not believe in a disaster, but a world change. One of those came with the landing of the Spanish, one other probably was a disaster, but localized, being a period of heavy volcanic activity in the southwest. But other groups were not involved, but stories spread through contact. Thus we are on the Hopi "Fourth World." We are still here. There is no reason to believe that the "Fifth world" will be anything but "different" -- we will all "probably" be here. But, again, that is assuming prediction is possible and a 3000 year old carving is still accurate today, and interpreted correctly. That is a lot of assumption. But, the assumption that all these societies came up with the same number out of coincidence and indepently, is most probably wrong. There was too much chance of leak of influence via the north american continent to allow for any society to loosly influence another.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pretty clever of them to predict this would be the date without knowing about the Gregorian calendar reform[^]
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Ah caught out, the chinese didn't see that coming:~
Roger Irrelevant "he's completely hatstand"
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Without fail I will be sitting here at work wondering if it's time to go home yet only to look up at the clock and see 4:04. :laugh: Seriously. I think my peripheral vision is playing tricks on me. :-D
A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. - Mitch Hedberg
4:04, around here, means 'Motivation not found'. :rolleyes:
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLDouglas Troy wrote:
How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11
For a while, I kept checking the time at 12:34.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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Um. That's my birthday. :~
Pretty good trick, posting over a decade before your birth... ;P
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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Um. That's my birthday. :~
David Stone wrote:
That's my birthday.
Now we know the cause!!! EVERYONE GET HIM!!! ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Ok, so now here's one that will also bug ya ... How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11 This happens to me constantly, to the point where one day, I Googled on 11:11, but oddly enough, didn't come across this 12-21-2012 thing (first I've heard of it). As for the whole "do I believe" question ... ask me that again on 12-21-2012. Oh, and someone here needs to contact Prince, or whatever the heck his name is this year, and tell him he needs to get cracking on a new song; since that 1999 end of the world thing didn't work out ... :rolleyes:
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLDouglas Troy wrote:
How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11
I looked and saw 1:02:34... does that mean I graduated back to kindergarten and counting lessons?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pretty good trick, posting over a decade before your birth... ;P
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
:laugh: Fine...that's my...26th birthday... ;P
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Douglas Troy wrote:
How often do you look at a clock and see the time 9:11 or 11:11
I looked and saw 1:02:34... does that mean I graduated back to kindergarten and counting lessons?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
does that mean I graduated back to kindergarten and counting lessons?
No, but your clock is 2 hours slow, FYI. :rolleyes:
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peart -
Has anyone seen the history channel (or other stuff) show related to that date? I was watching it yesterday and ancient Aztec's, Chinese, Hopi, WebBot and Oracles predict it will either be the last day of the world or some type of cataclysm? It was a pretty interesting show and while I don't know if I buy into *any* of it it had an odd and far-spread viewpoint from religious people to computer programs and other things that were arriving at 12-21-2012 being the "last day". I don't want this to be a religious discussion instead I found it fascinating that ancient Chinese, Hopi Indians, Aztecs, Oracles etc... from so many parts of the world and from such different times could all arrive at the same date. Now how much of this is "sensationalism" and how much is hard and fast true... Well only the Inquirer knows that... Anybody else catch that or similar stuff. I found it interesting even if it isn't true (and I hope it's as fake as pleather)? Also if you Google "12-21-2012" you get some pretty fascinating hits. Even if it turns out not to be true I think stuff like this has some real entertainment value :rolleyes: but it's also interesting assuming it's historically accurate.
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Isn't that round about the same date that the Asteroid "Apophis" is supposedly to make its ugly face appear in our heavens. Or, god forbid , that it might just collide with earth:wtf:
All things being equal, tommorrow will never equal today
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Isn't that round about the same date that the Asteroid "Apophis" is supposedly to make its ugly face appear in our heavens. Or, god forbid , that it might just collide with earth:wtf:
All things being equal, tommorrow will never equal today
Muhadeeb99 wrote:
Isn't that round about the same date that the Asteroid "Apophis" is supposedly to make its ugly face appear in our heavens.
nope... that is 2029. http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/PHACloseApp.html[^]
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Isn't that round about the same date that the Asteroid "Apophis" is supposedly to make its ugly face appear in our heavens. Or, god forbid , that it might just collide with earth:wtf:
All things being equal, tommorrow will never equal today
Nope. The next close approach is 2013. The keyhole is 2029, the potential impact 2036. The current odds are 45,000:1 against. The 2013 approach will be close enough to allow radar to measure it's orbit closely enough to eliminate any impact/miss uncertainty till at least 2070. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis[^]
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Pretty good trick, posting over a decade before your birth... ;P
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
Shog9 wrote:
Pretty good trick, posting over a decade before your birth...
*psst* check your math.;P
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El Corazon wrote:
does that mean I graduated back to kindergarten and counting lessons?
No, but your clock is 2 hours slow, FYI. :rolleyes:
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
-- Neil Peartbrianwelsch wrote:
No, but your clock is 2 hours slow, FYI
Nope, yours is 2 hours fast! ;P Feel free to use up more of the sun while it is there... we're getting too much of it here. ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
I believe that they ran out of paper.
:laugh:
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
and they stopped them at this date in 2012
This is what I remember about it also, the end of their calculations, read into that what you will. Except I had remembered the year as 2013. I've been planning on this for a long time, so now I just lost a year! :confused: BDF
Big Daddy Farang wrote:
so now I just lost a year!
Hehehe. Well then just enjoy life! For instance, get a :beer: right now. About this topic, last year we had presidential elections, and one of the candidates, a leftists Castro/Chavez-fashioned guy, was leading the polls. I remember that a news commentator said that he wouldn't win 2006's elections but rather the next ones in 2012, becoming true the Mayan's predictions about the end of the world. :laugh:
A polar bear is a bear whose coordinates has been changed in terms of sine and cosine. Quanehsti Pah Nation States
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Shog9 wrote:
Pretty good trick, posting over a decade before your birth...
*psst* check your math.;P
*psst* check when David became a member of CP... ;)
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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Nope. The next close approach is 2013. The keyhole is 2029, the potential impact 2036. The current odds are 45,000:1 against. The 2013 approach will be close enough to allow radar to measure it's orbit closely enough to eliminate any impact/miss uncertainty till at least 2070. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis[^]
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
allow radar to measure it's orbit closely enough to eliminate any impact/miss uncertainty till at least 2070.
assuming no other influences to its orbit from objects not as well measured. :-D No matter how you slice it, odds are low though!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)