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To break the monotony....a religious discusion!

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  • L lost in transition

    Your subject line is nice. 1 Samuel 8 God warning about what happens when you put a man in rule over you and not God.


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    God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.

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    jason_lakewhitney wrote:

    God warning about what happens when you put a man in rule over you and not God.

    Yup. I heard yesterday that we've hit a new high for people deployed to Iraq. Good thing we elected some anti-war Democrats, eh? :rolleyes:

    every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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      jason_lakewhitney wrote:

      God warning about what happens when you put a man in rule over you and not God.

      Yup. I heard yesterday that we've hit a new high for people deployed to Iraq. Good thing we elected some anti-war Democrats, eh? :rolleyes:

      every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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      But keep in mind that our military is voluntary.


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      • L lost in transition

        But keep in mind that our military is voluntary.


        God Bless, Jason
        God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.

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        Enlistment is voluntary. Now. It's been that way for not quite two generations, and hopefully stays that way...

        every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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        • L lost in transition

          What I don't understand is how far can the Freedom of Religion be stretched? People don't want to hear about the Ten Commandments, so they sue get them taking out. People don't want to have a time of pray to God(I am stating the Christian God), so they sue get that changed to a moment of silence. Okay, here is where I find a big problem(among others). If you take out anything that resembles pray in any way to any deity, then does that not invade on Freedom of Religion? What do the Buddhist, Islamics, and other religions think about this? Where does ones right to be offended over step my right to my religious beliefs? What would happen if every time the ACLU files suit against something Christian, a Christian organization counter-suits for invasion on Freedom of Religion? When is to far to far and who says that its to far?


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          The problem here is that because the school 'leads' in the moment of silence the parents think it's school sanctioned aka forced religion.

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            I think the pledge that precedes it troubles me more than anything likely to be happening during a moment of silence.

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            I believe that phrase was added in the 1950's. It was never part of the original pledge.

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              I believe that phrase was added in the 1950's. It was never part of the original pledge.

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              It's the original pledge that i have issues with... ;)

              every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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              • L lost in transition

                scpierre wrote:

                it's about the government setting aside class time that clearly is meant for prayer.

                But to who?


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                Are you just dense or deliberately playing dumb?

                Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                  Enlistment is voluntary. Now. It's been that way for not quite two generations, and hopefully stays that way...

                  every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                  Then what is your take on fighting for your country, either by enlistment or draft?


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                  • T Tim Craig

                    Are you just dense or deliberately playing dumb?

                    Mongkut to a Christian missionary friend: "What you teach us to do is admirable, but what you teach us to believe is foolish".

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                    I think it is an honest question to ask. Who or what deity is the prayer time for? Does it really matter? If that time is for you to pray to whoever or whatever. Would an atheist still find it offensive if the state set aside time to pray only to Buddha or Allah but not allowing that time to pray to Elohim?


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                    • M Minosknight

                      People seem to have such fragile and vulnerable beliefs. Participating in an public event that remotely 'feels' like prayer has ended up with militia taking arms against religion. Plus it gives them their 15 minutes. I've attended public school, I was confident enough with my beliefs that I didn't feel threatened at the slightest mention of God or the act of praying.

                      Think of it this way...using a Stradivarius violin to pound nails should not be considered a sound construction technique

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                      yep

                      Think of it this way...using a Stradivarius violin to pound nails should not be considered a sound construction technique

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                      • L lost in transition

                        Then what is your take on fighting for your country, either by enlistment or draft?


                        God Bless, Jason
                        God doesn't believe in atheist but He still loves them.

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                        Honestly? I think it's a sin and a product of sin. I think, when faced with an attack on your family or those you've pledged to protect, it is perhaps the lesser of two evils, if such a thing can honestly be said to exist... but every effort should be made to avoid it.

                        every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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