January 1st Code Project Poll
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What are the most likely predictions of 2007? Google will release GoogleOS 228 31.8 Apple will release the iPhone 243 33.8 A marriage proposal via Google AdWords 98 13.6 AMD will gain market share from Intel 196 27.3 A comet will crash into the Earth 94 13.1 RubyonRails and AJAX will not make it in 2007 102 14.2 Blogging will start declining 195 27.2 The first homocide due to obnoxious use of a Direct Connect push-to-talk cellphone is reported. 66 9.2 Visual Studio 'Orcas' will not be released in 2007 348 48.5 RSS will go mainstram...oh, we've already had that one before... 76 10.6
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eggie5 wrote:
What are the most likely predictions of 2007?
...2008?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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eggie5 wrote:
What are the most likely predictions of 2007?
...2008?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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35mins ago". The other way of looking around is that CP column should have read as "35 months ago". Then this 2007 clause should be satisfied. :-DVasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
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What are the most likely predictions of 2007? Google will release GoogleOS 228 31.8 Apple will release the iPhone 243 33.8 A marriage proposal via Google AdWords 98 13.6 AMD will gain market share from Intel 196 27.3 A comet will crash into the Earth 94 13.1 RubyonRails and AJAX will not make it in 2007 102 14.2 Blogging will start declining 195 27.2 The first homocide due to obnoxious use of a Direct Connect push-to-talk cellphone is reported. 66 9.2 Visual Studio 'Orcas' will not be released in 2007 348 48.5 RSS will go mainstram...oh, we've already had that one before... 76 10.6
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Vista will not be on my desktop.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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The post currently shows "
35mins ago". The other way of looking around is that CP column should have read as "35 months ago". Then this 2007 clause should be satisfied. :-DVasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
:laugh::laugh::laugh: "whoops!" ...What? it is a pretty bad sign if you don't know what year it is...
-Gatsby
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Vista will not be on my desktop.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Steve Echols wrote:
Vista will not be on my desktop.
Amen to that. It seems that just as computers get faster and more powerful, a bulkier and more bloated o/s is then designed around the new hardware, and the overall user experience doesn't actually improve. Windows 98 feels the same on a 500Mhz PII as Vista feels on a DualCore. I can of course go the *nix route if i bothered, but most of my work is done on a PC because 98% of users will be on a PC as well. Can't Microsoft release a pared down "gamer" o/s? I suppose they think that would kill Vista, but i'm pretty confident i've seen some pirates release something if this sort based on XP, and i may check it out if it's built around XP Pro, since i have a valid product key. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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eggie5 wrote:
What are the most likely predictions of 2007?
...2008?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
I suspect he's reminding us of the results of a poll at the start of this year.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Steve Echols wrote:
Vista will not be on my desktop.
Amen to that. It seems that just as computers get faster and more powerful, a bulkier and more bloated o/s is then designed around the new hardware, and the overall user experience doesn't actually improve. Windows 98 feels the same on a 500Mhz PII as Vista feels on a DualCore. I can of course go the *nix route if i bothered, but most of my work is done on a PC because 98% of users will be on a PC as well. Can't Microsoft release a pared down "gamer" o/s? I suppose they think that would kill Vista, but i'm pretty confident i've seen some pirates release something if this sort based on XP, and i may check it out if it's built around XP Pro, since i have a valid product key. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CARoswellNX wrote:
It seems that just as computers get faster and more powerful, a bulkier and more bloated o/s is then designed around the new hardware, and the overall user experience doesn't actually improve.
I know! We've been sold the same software with a different UI for so long, I give up. There really haven't been that many advances in the end user experience, except maybe the wheely mouse and networking. The rest is just glitz that sucks system resources. I know I'm an old fuddy duddy, but if you give me 3D and it works the same as 2D, then well, it's still the same crap. We need a radical paradigm shift: Kill the desktop paradigm!! Maybe something like 2nd Life is the answer?
RoswellNX wrote:
i've seen some pirates release something if this sort based on XP
Is this ReactOS?
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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Steve Echols wrote:
Vista will not be on my desktop.
Amen to that. It seems that just as computers get faster and more powerful, a bulkier and more bloated o/s is then designed around the new hardware, and the overall user experience doesn't actually improve. Windows 98 feels the same on a 500Mhz PII as Vista feels on a DualCore. I can of course go the *nix route if i bothered, but most of my work is done on a PC because 98% of users will be on a PC as well. Can't Microsoft release a pared down "gamer" o/s? I suppose they think that would kill Vista, but i'm pretty confident i've seen some pirates release something if this sort based on XP, and i may check it out if it's built around XP Pro, since i have a valid product key. Roswell
"Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
Antonio VillaRaigosa
City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA:zzz: This Vista hate fest is starting to get tired. AFAIK most people here who are actually using it every day for any length of time are quite happy with it. The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it". I'm much happier with Vista than I was with XP. Admittedly I do use my computer to make money and rarely play games on it. I'd buy a new game console if I cared enough about games.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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:zzz: This Vista hate fest is starting to get tired. AFAIK most people here who are actually using it every day for any length of time are quite happy with it. The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it". I'm much happier with Vista than I was with XP. Admittedly I do use my computer to make money and rarely play games on it. I'd buy a new game console if I cared enough about games.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it".
I hope your not including the numerous people who tried it and found it annoyingly slow. It requires too expensive of a jump in hardware for some of us to afford it. (ps - I did try it, and it was too slow on my system. Also, MS had some bug in it where Office could not automatically be updated. Both problems were solved by going back to an earlier OS.)
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:laugh::laugh::laugh: "whoops!" ...What? it is a pretty bad sign if you don't know what year it is...
-Gatsby
This morning i hadnt had my coffee yet:zzz:, and i almost wrote 2005 on a document.... thankfully i caught myself just in time.... YAY for desk callenders
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:zzz: This Vista hate fest is starting to get tired. AFAIK most people here who are actually using it every day for any length of time are quite happy with it. The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it". I'm much happier with Vista than I was with XP. Admittedly I do use my computer to make money and rarely play games on it. I'd buy a new game console if I cared enough about games.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it".
Well of course... you think if they tried it and liked it they would complain??
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John Cardinal wrote:
The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it".
I hope your not including the numerous people who tried it and found it annoyingly slow. It requires too expensive of a jump in hardware for some of us to afford it. (ps - I did try it, and it was too slow on my system. Also, MS had some bug in it where Office could not automatically be updated. Both problems were solved by going back to an earlier OS.)
Hmm..I thought it was just a given that you would use it with newer faster hardware. Hardly Vista's fault really. Should microsoft be writing new OS's for ancient hardware? Blame your hardware sure but don't blame Vista for doing what it was designed to do. I find it blazingly fast on my system but I got a new system at the same time because from what I read before it was even released it appeared that new hardware was a necessary prerequisite.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Hmm..I thought it was just a given that you would use it with newer faster hardware. Hardly Vista's fault really. Should microsoft be writing new OS's for ancient hardware? Blame your hardware sure but don't blame Vista for doing what it was designed to do. I find it blazingly fast on my system but I got a new system at the same time because from what I read before it was even released it appeared that new hardware was a necessary prerequisite.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
So your original gripe should have been stated: "...AFAIK most people here who HAVE FAST COMPUTERS AND are actually using it every day for any length of time are quite happy with it." :| That's really inclusive.
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John Cardinal wrote:
The complaining always seems to come from people how have "tried it but didn't like it".
Well of course... you think if they tried it and liked it they would complain??
I wasn't clear, I meant people who try it casually for a short time, fail to learn how to use it expecting I guess that it will be the same as XP, get pissed off largely due to their lack of knowledge and spout off here about how much Vista sucks and revert back to XP. There is a learning curve and now that I'm over it I'm quite happy with it.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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So your original gripe should have been stated: "...AFAIK most people here who HAVE FAST COMPUTERS AND are actually using it every day for any length of time are quite happy with it." :| That's really inclusive.
I thought it was a given that most developers that are attempting to use Vista would at the very least read *something* about how it works and what is different and what it's requirements are, install it on a modern computer or failing that be smart enough to understand that if they are not installing it on a modern computer it's not likely to be very fast since many of it's features were designed for modern hardware and not blame the operating system for sucking when it fact it's just state of the art.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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I thought it was a given that most developers that are attempting to use Vista would at the very least read *something* about how it works and what is different and what it's requirements are, install it on a modern computer or failing that be smart enough to understand that if they are not installing it on a modern computer it's not likely to be very fast since many of it's features were designed for modern hardware and not blame the operating system for sucking when it fact it's just state of the art.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
So the only ones that are allowed to gripe about it are those who have state-of-the-art computers with all the latest do-dads? I'm sorry, but that's not how the world works.
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Hmm..I thought it was just a given that you would use it with newer faster hardware. Hardly Vista's fault really. Should microsoft be writing new OS's for ancient hardware? Blame your hardware sure but don't blame Vista for doing what it was designed to do. I find it blazingly fast on my system but I got a new system at the same time because from what I read before it was even released it appeared that new hardware was a necessary prerequisite.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
but don't blame Vista for doing what it was designed to do
Hmm...it was designed to take up 3GB and ship on a DVD...and it does:doh:. You are right, it's doing what it's designed to do. Mission accomplished.:rolleyes:
John Cardinal wrote:
Should microsoft be writing new OS's for ancient hardware?
No. But the thing is, the purpose of an o/s isn't to occupy and cripple the hardware without regard to how powerful it is, that's what spyware and viruses are for;P. It's there to bridge the gap between the hardware and the user, and be a platform on which the other software runs (including the afforementioned malware). If i wanted any extra crap i would buy it separately and load the crap modules afterwards. But no, the o/s should not be so dependant of hardware, unless you are talking processor architecture. In that case loading a different driver does not solve the problem of course. You know, my friend, i don't know how well i can explain this to you, but it's actually quite rude of them to include all the crap just because they can:sigh:. I'm buying new hardware not for them, but for myself;). And what good does it do me to kill my productivity with the just-because-they-can crap. So you can't persuade me to upgrade. Vista is not on my budget nor on my agenda. If IE 8 came out only supporting Vista, chances are i'll have a bootleg copy running in a virtual machine for the browser testing. But it's not for me. In fact, I keep a 500Mhz, 128MB, Win98 machine around to test my code on to make sure it's as efficient as i can possibly make it. I stopped upgrading Photoshop at version 7, because i tried the next version and it was too bloated. Illustrator at version 10.3, same reason. Flash at verson 7 was well, because 5 was old, 6 was buggy, and as 8 came out, i decided it was a bit bloated as well. I have XP Pro running here on a 3.0 Ghz machine with 1.0GB of RAM, and i still hate XP as much as when it first came out. I'll be adding another stick of RAM after i find the time to run memtest on each, and i will have 2GB and i'll still hate it. I wish i could go back to Win2K but i don't have a license and there's no sense in that since they'll be dropping support for it soon if they haven't already. And i'll say this again....when i update my hardware, i expect to enjoy the difference in speed and productivity, rather than to play catch up with a bit of software that
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Hmm..I thought it was just a given that you would use it with newer faster hardware. Hardly Vista's fault really. Should microsoft be writing new OS's for ancient hardware? Blame your hardware sure but don't blame Vista for doing what it was designed to do. I find it blazingly fast on my system but I got a new system at the same time because from what I read before it was even released it appeared that new hardware was a necessary prerequisite.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
Edina is right in that Vista needs new hardware but vendor as selling substandard hardware with Vista on it. This means that end users think that VIsta is slow, badly designed and worse than XP. I have a neighbor who sold Vista on a Intel Celeron Laptop with 512mb of memory, unsurprisingly the laptop started up and then decided that life was not worth living and took the next 30 minutes to get onto the desktop. On the flip side Vista has it's own fair share of faults, mainly not being compatible with older software, even Microsoft's own software. I am a .NET programmer and was very surprised to find that I could not use parts of Visual Studio without running it in administrator mode. I then found that some other programs could not perform the tasks they needed without going into Administrator mode. This seems odd to me because it creates a loop hole in the security setup. It would not take mush for a hacker to design something that runs in VS knowing that it will probably be run in Administrator mode on a Vista machine and then take over the machine. I am sure there other apps in a similar situation. Overall vista has done nothing new, was not as great an improvement as XP was over previous versions.
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I wasn't clear, I meant people who try it casually for a short time, fail to learn how to use it expecting I guess that it will be the same as XP, get pissed off largely due to their lack of knowledge and spout off here about how much Vista sucks and revert back to XP. There is a learning curve and now that I'm over it I'm quite happy with it.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
I tried it from the initial beta through to the full release... I DO have a powerfull computer! I DO use it for both work and games! and I DO HATE VISTA!! Fair enough that a lot of people didnt give it a chance, but as a beta tester i saw it come out with alot of bugs, and then the release come out, again with a lot of bugs. I saw all the hardware/software conflicts. Same that you would expect from any new program, but on a much larger scale. And yes, I reverted back to XP. And none of this was due to my "lack of knowledge"! Everybody is different, and everybody has an oppinion, and my guess is that much of the world shares my oppinion... espesially china http://megagames.com/news/html/software/244copiesofvistasoldinchina.shtml^]
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eggie5 wrote:
What are the most likely predictions of 2007?
...2008?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
No, this was an end-of-2006 poll, rating various predictions for 2007
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