Vista Sucks
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Well, they put Vista on my box at my new job, and I gotta say I don't like it much. How do I turn off the cheesey eye candy animation crap?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I was so unenthused with Vista that I actually bought a Mac Mini. I must confess that I love it...I do, however, only use it as my home machine...so it does email, music, radio and DVD movies (I bought a brand new HP cinematic LCD display...)
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How do you run VS2005 elevated (so I can actually get some work done)?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001You'll want this: Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista[^]
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
How do I turn off the cheesey eye candy animation crap?
Frankly, I had about the same opinion of XP. Nonetheless, I recently got a Vista box. Not because I had any desire to upgrade, but because I'm still doing some development work and it's a reality that I must contend with (e.g. "does my stuff still work with all the UAC crap turned on full blast?"). With that in mind, you might want to consider setting up separate users rather than going global whenever possible. One with all the eye candy and UAC stuff turned off to your liking, another as a default, mere mortal account that you can still run your debugger under so that you can bask in the glow of what the latest version of Windows does to all your hard work.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Frankly, I had about the same opinion of XP
Must say I liked XP from the beginning but think Vista is poor.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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How do you run VS2005 elevated (so I can actually get some work done)?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001From MSDN: The information below identifies the known issues you will face when using Visual Studio 2005 on Windows Vista. When using Visual Studio 2005, we advise you to do the following: Run Visual Studio with elevated administrator permissions Be a member of the "Administrators" group on the local machine Right-click the Visual Studio icon and select the "Run as administrator" option from the context menu Note You can create a shortcut to Visual Studio and select the option to always run with elevated administrator permissions. Using this shortcut would be the equivalent of the right-click method described above. Marc
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You'll want this: Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista[^]
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLDouglas Troy wrote:
Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista[^]
Does that actually fix the problem? It's still listed under "known issues" on the page discussing the VSSP1UWV. It's not clear (to my eyes) whether this continues to be an issue or whether it fixes the issue. Marc
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You'll want this: Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista[^]
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLGot that already. And I figured out how to "run as administrator", but vs2005 still tells me I need to run as administrator.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
How do I turn off the cheesey eye candy animation crap?
I guess it really does suck if Google doesn't work on it. * ducking really really fast *
Yeah, I could have used google for this, but that would deny everyone here the priviledge of laughing at me while I stumble around trying to mold Vista in my image.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Christopher Duncan wrote:
another as a default, mere mortal account that you can still run your debugger under
Can you run the debugger as a mere mortal with UAC turned "On"? I haven't tried it yet.
More to the point... Can you do anything with the UAC turned on?
Ninja (the Nerd)
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
another as a default, mere mortal account that you can still run your debugger under
Can you run the debugger as a mere mortal with UAC turned "On"? I haven't tried it yet.
Yes, which was my primary justification for getting a Vista box. Of course, either way you need to run VS with elevated permissions.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Frankly, I had about the same opinion of XP
Must say I liked XP from the beginning but think Vista is poor.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Well, Vista is pretty, to be sure. However, functionally there's just not much new that it brings to the party other than security hassles. I have no doubt that over time I'll encounter the occasional incremental improvement, but that's not exactly what I have in mind for major version upgrades. Essentially, it's yet another eye candy release, much like XP was. At least XP had remote desktop, though, which was the only reason I upgraded my boxes from W2K. Other than the graphics, Vista has no serious functionality that really makes it worthwhile. I upgraded for the same reason most of their customers will - I had to. In my case it was because I'm in the business. For mere mortals, it'll be when that's what comes on their new machine. When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Well, Vista is pretty, to be sure. However, functionally there's just not much new that it brings to the party other than security hassles. I have no doubt that over time I'll encounter the occasional incremental improvement, but that's not exactly what I have in mind for major version upgrades. Essentially, it's yet another eye candy release, much like XP was. At least XP had remote desktop, though, which was the only reason I upgraded my boxes from W2K. Other than the graphics, Vista has no serious functionality that really makes it worthwhile. I upgraded for the same reason most of their customers will - I had to. In my case it was because I'm in the business. For mere mortals, it'll be when that's what comes on their new machine. When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
Well, Vista is pretty, to be sure
Well. Uh. No. I mean. Well. No. I think it is uglier than a transvestite Barbie. The blurring-glass effect is distracting and ugly. The dark colours are typical of a techy using Photoshop. It is what I would have done to my blog three years ago, using Microsoft Paint and too much Alien Effect FX plugin. I cry to think of all the great designs the design agency must have floated past Microsoft before Microsoft went "Ooooh, we like the dark, techy, nerdy one" and then the poor design agency had mild heart attacks but resigned themselves to doing it based on the nice fat payment.
Christopher Duncan wrote:
When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Yup. And when Microsoft's own best champions, its developers, switch to other systems (I switched to Mac OS X when I first saw Vista) you know it has problems too. I should be eating Vista up. But I'm not. I'm regurgitating it.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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I was so unenthused with Vista that I actually bought a Mac Mini. I must confess that I love it...I do, however, only use it as my home machine...so it does email, music, radio and DVD movies (I bought a brand new HP cinematic LCD display...)
73Zeppelin wrote:
I must confess that I love it
The best computer related act I did in the past two years was to get a MacBook Pro and use Mac OS X. Not even Ruby on Rails or JavaScript or TextMate or Backup Properly beats it.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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How do you run VS2005 elevated (so I can actually get some work done)?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Right click icon/menu entry - select "Run as Administrator". That's what VS tells me to do anyway. :)
-- Secreted by the Comedy Bee
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Well, they put Vista on my box at my new job, and I gotta say I don't like it much. How do I turn off the cheesey eye candy animation crap?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Amen!
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73Zeppelin wrote:
I must confess that I love it
The best computer related act I did in the past two years was to get a MacBook Pro and use Mac OS X. Not even Ruby on Rails or JavaScript or TextMate or Backup Properly beats it.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Have you had any experience with objective C? I was looking quickly at their XCode development environment and it seems rather interesting. I used to write code under Linux, but this Cocoa seems quite different. Unfortunately, it doesn't have widespread acceptance, but it looks interesting. I might play around with it as a hobby...
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Have you had any experience with objective C? I was looking quickly at their XCode development environment and it seems rather interesting. I used to write code under Linux, but this Cocoa seems quite different. Unfortunately, it doesn't have widespread acceptance, but it looks interesting. I might play around with it as a hobby...
No, afraid not. I am a web-developer. Funnily enough though I just got some Objective C and Cocoa books to see what I can do on the iPhone.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Well, Vista is pretty, to be sure
Well. Uh. No. I mean. Well. No. I think it is uglier than a transvestite Barbie. The blurring-glass effect is distracting and ugly. The dark colours are typical of a techy using Photoshop. It is what I would have done to my blog three years ago, using Microsoft Paint and too much Alien Effect FX plugin. I cry to think of all the great designs the design agency must have floated past Microsoft before Microsoft went "Ooooh, we like the dark, techy, nerdy one" and then the poor design agency had mild heart attacks but resigned themselves to doing it based on the nice fat payment.
Christopher Duncan wrote:
When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Yup. And when Microsoft's own best champions, its developers, switch to other systems (I switched to Mac OS X when I first saw Vista) you know it has problems too. I should be eating Vista up. But I'm not. I'm regurgitating it.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Paul Watson wrote:
I cry to think of all the great designs the design agency must have floated past Microsoft before Microsoft went "Ooooh, we like the dark, techy, nerdy one" and then the poor design agency had mild heart attacks but resigned themselves to doing it based on the nice fat payment.
Somehow, I think what Vista ended up looking like was supposed to be the shit-child concept that the company is supposed to reject outright, in an attempt to nudge them the direction you actually want to go. We do that sometimes; present our customers with a less-attractive option to 'encourage' them to select the one we know is technically superior. Once in awhile, we get bitten in the ass for it (mind you, I have nothing to do with making that policy). Seems like this is what happened to Vista..
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
Well, Vista is pretty, to be sure
Well. Uh. No. I mean. Well. No. I think it is uglier than a transvestite Barbie. The blurring-glass effect is distracting and ugly. The dark colours are typical of a techy using Photoshop. It is what I would have done to my blog three years ago, using Microsoft Paint and too much Alien Effect FX plugin. I cry to think of all the great designs the design agency must have floated past Microsoft before Microsoft went "Ooooh, we like the dark, techy, nerdy one" and then the poor design agency had mild heart attacks but resigned themselves to doing it based on the nice fat payment.
Christopher Duncan wrote:
When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Yup. And when Microsoft's own best champions, its developers, switch to other systems (I switched to Mac OS X when I first saw Vista) you know it has problems too. I should be eating Vista up. But I'm not. I'm regurgitating it.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Paul Watson wrote:
I cry to think of all the great designs the design agency must have floated past Microsoft before Microsoft went "Ooooh, we like the dark, techy, nerdy one" and then the poor design agency had mild heart attacks but resigned themselves to doing it based on the nice fat payment.
You have no idea how close to the mark that really is...
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
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Paul Watson wrote:
I cry to think of all the great designs the design agency must have floated past Microsoft before Microsoft went "Ooooh, we like the dark, techy, nerdy one" and then the poor design agency had mild heart attacks but resigned themselves to doing it based on the nice fat payment.
Somehow, I think what Vista ended up looking like was supposed to be the shit-child concept that the company is supposed to reject outright, in an attempt to nudge them the direction you actually want to go. We do that sometimes; present our customers with a less-attractive option to 'encourage' them to select the one we know is technically superior. Once in awhile, we get bitten in the ass for it (mind you, I have nothing to do with making that policy). Seems like this is what happened to Vista..
Patrick Sears wrote:
Once in awhile, we get bitten in the ass for it
Indeed. I got bitten with that just last month. Where do you work Patrick?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Well, Vista is pretty, to be sure. However, functionally there's just not much new that it brings to the party other than security hassles. I have no doubt that over time I'll encounter the occasional incremental improvement, but that's not exactly what I have in mind for major version upgrades. Essentially, it's yet another eye candy release, much like XP was. At least XP had remote desktop, though, which was the only reason I upgraded my boxes from W2K. Other than the graphics, Vista has no serious functionality that really makes it worthwhile. I upgraded for the same reason most of their customers will - I had to. In my case it was because I'm in the business. For mere mortals, it'll be when that's what comes on their new machine. When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
When customers only buy a company's new products when they're forced to, it's time to dump your stock and invest in someone else.
Well, how many people have ever bought a Windows upgrade? I certainly haven't. I doubt the average consumer has. They just use whatever comes with their new PC, as you've already indicated.
Kevin
