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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    Why would you download a browser when (if you have Windoze) you get a perfectly good one for free? I'm convinced that the 15 odd % of users now sucked into FireFox are all techies since not one normal person I know could be bothered to download a browser when they already have one: most don't even know what a 'browser' is: they all think Google is the internet anyway. The PC is hard enough for most normies as it is without expecting users to think for themselves. Duh!

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    Shog9 0
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    digital man wrote:

    Why would you download a browser when (if you have Windoze) you get a perfectly good one for free?

    I remember those days... I had more hair back then too...

    every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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      digital man wrote:

      Why would you download a browser when (if you have Windoze) you get a perfectly good one for free?

      I remember those days... I had more hair back then too...

      every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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      keyboard warrior
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      How do you unrate(unvote) a rating? I have a very klutzy mouse.

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      • B Bianca M Whylie

        I need it to not pick up blogs and not pick up lies. I need it to pick up reliable information. So it's probably a creature of the sea, as I was advised by the trusty tool. Above. Shog forever. Americans forever. Uh oh. Is that a flame I just felt on my sweatshirt sleeve? Clarity. Please. Soon.

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        Nish Nishant
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        Bianca M Whylie wrote:

        Shog forever. Americans forever. Uh oh. Is that a flame I just felt on my sweatshirt sleeve?

        Are you hitting on Shog? In case you don't know : he's happily married :rolleyes:

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          How do you unrate(unvote) a rating? I have a very klutzy mouse.

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          El Corazon
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          jgasm wrote:

          How do you unrate(unvote) a rating?

          admit your klutzy mouse and hope a few people will offset it with 5's because you were brave enough to admit the mistake.

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          • C Chris Losinger

            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

            There is no "instead".

            there will be, if the next release isn't more stable than the current one.

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            Kevin McFarlane
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            Chris Losinger wrote:

            there will be, if the next release isn't more stable than the current one.

            I ran into horrendous stability problems about a week ago. It had been gradually getting worse and worse. Bad, non-killable hangs for example. many have said that extensions are the chief culprit. Rather unfortunate as it's extensions that are the "killer application." Anyway, I discovered that two major problems are the download manager (I deleted all the downloads from it an now keep it to a manageable size) and Firebug (I've disabled it). Since then it's been much more stable. Still uses a lot of memory - up to 200k but does seem to periodically give it back, as it's claimed to do. But I'd never observed that before.

            Kevin

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            • B Bianca M Whylie

              Firefox is related to Netscape and now Google, so, umm, well, ummm, what should I download instead? If that's the church and that's the state I'm effed.

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              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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              There is one browser out there probably not related to anyone and suitable for everyone. Lynx[^] You will love it.

              Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action

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              • K Kevin McFarlane

                Chris Losinger wrote:

                there will be, if the next release isn't more stable than the current one.

                I ran into horrendous stability problems about a week ago. It had been gradually getting worse and worse. Bad, non-killable hangs for example. many have said that extensions are the chief culprit. Rather unfortunate as it's extensions that are the "killer application." Anyway, I discovered that two major problems are the download manager (I deleted all the downloads from it an now keep it to a manageable size) and Firebug (I've disabled it). Since then it's been much more stable. Still uses a lot of memory - up to 200k but does seem to periodically give it back, as it's claimed to do. But I'd never observed that before.

                Kevin

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                Chris Losinger
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                i keep firebug disabled. i run Greasemonkey (because i have a few scripts to strip comments from certain blog commenters) and nothing else. just loading David Byrne's Journal kills this latest version of FF for me, every single time. and i get random crashes two or three times a day. this never happened with the last version.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  There is one browser out there probably not related to anyone and suitable for everyone. Lynx[^] You will love it.

                  Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action

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                  Chris Losinger
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                  Lynx is for babies. i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    There is one browser out there probably not related to anyone and suitable for everyone. Lynx[^] You will love it.

                    Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action

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                    Oh, wow. I used Lynx as my primary browser for... hmm, at least three years in the early '90s. It was amazing how slow Netscape seemed by comparison!

                    every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      Lynx is for babies. i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                      El Corazon
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                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                      with colored pencils

                      bah! you have it easy.... I use the arm-tap for drawing blood as an inkwell and write it in blood, and I free-hand the straight lines! ;P

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      • K keyboard warrior

                        15 odd % of users now sucked into FireFox are all techies since not one normal person I know could be bothered to

                        I'm pretty sure the percentage is higher than 15. In fact, I'd say it's about double that. Are you trying to imply that "techies" are not "normal" :)

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                        Mike Dimmick
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                        15% is a slight overestimate according to these stats[^]. Yes, only one data point. W3Schools[^] reports nearly 35%, but these stats are only from their own site which is of course used by web developers.

                        Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                          Lynx is for babies. i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.

                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                          QuiJohn
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                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.

                          Newb. I telnet to port 80. And no ruler.


                          Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency! -Emily Dickinson

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                          • B Bianca M Whylie

                            Suit yourself. I prefer seafood. It was a question. You're no instead. Manners Manners little ones. Manners.

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                            Fernando A Gomez F
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                            Uhm... I'm sorry, I was just joking, trying to imply that Firefox is the best IMO. But I apologize if you felt offended. Didn't mean to.

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                            • C Chris Losinger

                              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                              There is no "instead".

                              there will be, if the next release isn't more stable than the current one.

                              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                              Fernando A Gomez F
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                              :omg: Well, I've never had problems with FF. I only use it for browsing CP, mail, news and sport sites though. I've never done web development with FF. Then I hope the next release to be more stable. I don't like the idea of switching to Opera or... or... or... [trembling]IE7[/trembling]

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                              • M Mike Dimmick

                                15% is a slight overestimate according to these stats[^]. Yes, only one data point. W3Schools[^] reports nearly 35%, but these stats are only from their own site which is of course used by web developers.

                                Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                I assume the Internet Explorer number includes Aol.

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                                  Chris Losinger wrote:

                                  i get the pages with ::URLDownloadToFile then render them myself. on paper. by hand. with colored pencils and a ruler.

                                  Newb. I telnet to port 80. And no ruler.


                                  Faith is a fine invention For gentlemen who see; But microscopes are prudent In an emergency! -Emily Dickinson

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.

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                                    when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    Ain't that the truth! I imagine all the Video On Demand "services" that you've signed up for make that a bit difficult to do :)

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                                    • C Chris Losinger

                                      when i started, i used to use an abacus, a voltmeter and an Etch-a-Sketch. but that only worked over dialup. i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.

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                                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                                      i can't keep up with the signals on broadband.

                                      wuss

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                                        John Cardinal wrote:

                                        There's a growing anti-firefox sentiment out there

                                        I see one guy with a chip on his shoulder... ;P

                                        every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                                        You don't get the CodeProject newsletter? http://whyfirefoxisblocked.com/[^] http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3A+whyfirefoxisblocked.com&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1[^] It's perfectly understandable really. If I were Chris I'd be blocking it here as well considering how many firefox fanatics we seem to have who are no doubt circumventing the advertising that is the lifeblood of this site.


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                                        • F Fernando A Gomez F

                                          :omg: Well, I've never had problems with FF. I only use it for browsing CP, mail, news and sport sites though. I've never done web development with FF. Then I hope the next release to be more stable. I don't like the idea of switching to Opera or... or... or... [trembling]IE7[/trembling]

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                                          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                          I don't like the idea of switching to Opera

                                          Why on earth not? It's easily the best browser out there from many different points of view. The only reason I don't use it as my main browser is CodeProject is nearly completely incompatible with it for mysterious reasons.


                                          "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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